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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Oct 25 13:28:53 2006, in response to R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 11:38:06 2006. Oy. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 13:37:03 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Oct 25 13:28:53 2006. Obviously I copied and pasted forgetting to remove some of the stuff. |
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Re: Yet Another Set Running (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?) |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Oct 25 14:04:53 2006, in response to Yet Another Set Running (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?), posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Oct 24 14:36:39 2006. 2226-2230 were on the 7 about 2 weeks ago. What the heck? I surrender! |
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Re: R-142A on the 2 today |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Oct 25 14:06:46 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 25 12:03:31 2006. How about R40 Slants, R40M, R42 and perhaps R44s? |
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Re: R-142A on the 2 today |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 14:13:38 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Oct 25 14:06:46 2006. R40S 1st. |
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Re: Yet Another Set Running (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?) |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Wed Oct 25 15:13:58 2006, in response to Yet Another Set Running (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?), posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Oct 24 14:36:39 2006. Are you sure its not 2326-2330? 2226-2230 are on the 7. |
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Re: R-142A on the 2 today |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 16:06:37 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 25 12:38:54 2006. I know that they used to show up on the M.But they don't now. If a train of R-38's were to appear on the M tomorrow, you can be certain that it will be a topic of discussion here. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 25 16:50:15 2006, in response to R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 11:38:06 2006. Wow, I need to start riding the A division more! |
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Re: Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?) |
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Posted by Jace on Wed Oct 25 16:51:23 2006, in response to Re: Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?), posted by Railman718 on Mon Oct 23 20:31:46 2006. Bingo. And it's likely there will be more parked in the next few days/weeks. |
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Re: Yet Another Set Running (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?) |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Oct 25 17:20:39 2006, in response to Re: Yet Another Set Running (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?), posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Wed Oct 25 15:13:58 2006. "Are you sure its not 2326-2330? 2226-2230 are on the 7."Very Sure. |
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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here? |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 25 17:22:43 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Wed Oct 25 10:32:39 2006. But why does it need to be closed? It's well outside of the WTC perimeter, and it can be connected to the future FTC without closing it. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday (and Wednesday) |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Oct 25 17:26:18 2006, in response to R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 11:38:06 2006. "10:10am 7416-20 and 7521-5 running on the 2 arrived at Flatbush Av and I rode it."As of this morning, that set is still on the 2. Saw it at Pelham Pkwy heading south at around 7:30ish. Apparently this isnt one of those 1-day only deals. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Oct 25 17:49:42 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 25 12:36:49 2006. I agree with you for the most part. It's a little wierd to encounter in person (different traction motor sounds, clueless passengers staring at the foreign stripmaps in confusion, etc), but really not newsworthy. Admittedly it would be nice to get some photos of these cars running on different lines since my R62 and R142 pages (if I ever get around to putting them up) will end up having big clusters of photos of them on one line, the line they're assigned to, which looks a bit boring, but I'm not coming all the way back up there just for that. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 17:58:43 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 25 16:50:15 2006. Yeah what David of Broadway stated he saw another set of R142A's so that's at least 2 different types on the 2.For sure I'm not leaving the camera home the rest of the month and next. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday (and Wednesday) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 17:59:37 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday (and Wednesday), posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Oct 25 17:26:18 2006. Wow thanks. Now I'm def going to stay on the 2. Hopefully they don't try to move it to the 5 yet. |
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Re: R-142A on the 2 today |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 25 18:00:08 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 16:06:37 2006. And rightfully so. But I can't get excited when somebody elses new tech IRT cars are on another new tech IRT line and old tech car IRT cars are on another old tech IRT line. |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Oct 25 18:01:03 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 25 10:39:45 2006. Close enough?
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 25 18:08:16 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 17:58:43 2006. I haven't left the camera home since approx 2003. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 18:25:53 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 25 18:08:16 2006. I have to as certain days I need to bring more books to class and need room. Obviously as of yesterday i won't anymore. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 18:26:34 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 18:25:53 2006. * I mean I'm bringing my camera everyday from now on. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 25 18:34:54 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 25 12:36:49 2006. I agree. Personally, I have no interest in the differences between an R62 and an R62A, or an R142 and an R142A, anymore than I gave a damn about the differences between an R27 or an R30, and at least those were different classes, not just different contracts. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 25 20:46:51 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 18:26:34 2006. Glad to hear it. If you want to travel light, pick up a cheap/small/old/used digital camera if your cell phone lacks one. |
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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here? |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 21:10:53 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 25 17:22:43 2006. And if it is closed, surely it won't be closed until after Cortlandt is reopened! |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 21:16:49 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Oct 25 17:49:42 2006. I think we're discussing two different things entirely.Did the train I saw this morning on the 2 look dramatically different than the ones I usually see on the 2? Of course not. But a train's worth of cars was moved (from the 6, I think). Why? What's going on? (Perhaps you're not interested. That's fine. But if some posters are interested, why shouldn't they discuss it?) Sure, I suppose it's hypothetically possible that a train of R-142A's was moved from the 6 to the 2 to make service -- just as it's possible that a train of R-38's is moved from the C to the M to make service. Neither one is very likely, however. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 25 21:40:26 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 21:16:49 2006. just as it's possible that a train of R-38's is moved from the C to the M to make service.Oooooohhhh! There you go again! |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Oct 25 21:46:12 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 21:16:49 2006. It really dont make a difference what train pulls in to a station (as long as it runs.) But when you see something like a 142A on the 2 or a 62A on the 4 (I did ride a R62 (6) about 10 years ago, but thats another story) It is worth taking a look, but if the equipment can run correctly, I can care less what they swap. I WANT VARIETY!! lol |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 22:08:55 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 21:16:49 2006. Sure take an OOS 6 and route it via the 5 to Flatbush and then sign as a 2. But so far if it is an R142A it is likely from the 6 the one from Sept 29th was from the 6 and the one I saw yesterday was also from the 6. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 22:09:59 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 25 20:46:51 2006. Oh I have a small 3x optical camera, problem is the batteries are low so I try not to use it as much. But of course I'll be carrying spare AA batteries. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Oct 25 22:43:05 2006, in response to The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Oct 23 20:44:11 2006. Average people in here? Lets see, NONE!
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Posted by Tunnel Rat on Wed Oct 25 22:57:40 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Oct 25 22:43:05 2006. I reconize the GANGSTER on the end,HE eats cupcakes like they were clams on the halfshell. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Oct 25 23:01:21 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 21:16:49 2006. I'm not saying it's wrong or bad to discuss it, I'm just saying I don't think it's nearly as dramatic as some are making it out to be, and certainly not as dramatic as something like an R38 on the M. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Oct 25 23:07:09 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Tunnel Rat on Wed Oct 25 22:57:40 2006. Whose the guy in the front with the matching bag and tee-shirt?And whats with the horrible sunglasses? It looks like a Van Halen concert in 1979. |
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Posted by Tunnel Rat on Wed Oct 25 23:12:00 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Oct 25 23:07:09 2006. I know for a fact that the cupcake eater is DENNIS RIGA`S real daddy. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 25 23:55:11 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Oct 25 21:46:12 2006. We're talking at two different levels.Of course, an R-142A train will run on the 2, just as (here you go, Chris) an R-38 train will run on the M. Most of the passengers won't notice or care. (When an R-68 train runs on the B, the only problem the passengers encounter is in locating the door closest to their exit.) But some posters are interested in car movements: which cars are going where, whether those moves are temporary or permanent, and, perhaps, most interesting of all, why the cars are moving in the first place. If you're not interested in car movements, then don't read threads dealing with car movements. There are lots of threads here I don't find interesting, and I simply don't read them. As long as it's on-topic, I'm not going to complain about a thread that I happen to find boring. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Oct 26 00:04:26 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Oct 25 23:01:21 2006. Who said it's dramatic? It's an unusual car move. I'd like to know what's going on. I posted my observation because (a) maybe somebody here knows what's going on and (b) maybe somebody here is interested in my observation. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Oct 26 00:06:25 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 22:08:55 2006. And you could just as easily take a C and send it into Brooklyn on the D and then back up on the M.That's not likely to happen just because the M is short a few cars. |
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Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday (and Wednesday) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Oct 26 00:28:21 2006, in response to Re: R142A running on the 2 Tuesday (and Wednesday), posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Oct 25 17:26:18 2006. There are 2 sets of R142A's as well as a R142S on the Deuce.One of em is a 6 Type 7420-16-7551-55 give or take a number, and one of them is a 4 Type,7700 series(seen both of em on my trips yesterday) as well as a R142S 4 Type numbers 1136-40-1246-50. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Oct 26 00:49:37 2006, in response to R142A running on the 2 Tuesday, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 25 11:38:06 2006. Somebody has to get pics of this...please. |
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Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Thu Oct 26 01:32:54 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Oct 25 22:43:05 2006. railfanning is a disorder because railfans ain't normal! (j/k) ;) |
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Posted by 5119 on Thu Oct 26 01:58:02 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006. Think that is unusual? Back in 1959, I rode an "F" train that consisted, of all cars, BMT Standard cars. A real unusual car assignment. Some of you "old timers" might remember this. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Oct 26 02:46:05 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Tunnel Rat on Wed Oct 25 23:12:00 2006. Riga? The cab driver with the big nose from taxi!? |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Oct 26 03:28:33 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 25 12:38:54 2006. What years are you referring to? When I attended E.R. Murrow High School in the mid 70's, the M and the QB were mainly R-27/30's and a few R-42's. I used to look out of the window of classrooms that faced the tracks, much to the chagrin of the teachers. :-) |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Thu Oct 26 04:03:17 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006. Two words: MAKING SERVICE.If your barn needs X cars to make rush hour service, but only X-N cars are operational, you better find N cars from some other barn. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Oct 26 06:52:21 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Oct 26 03:28:33 2006. Good thing I don't teach there or I'd be the one watching the tracks, much to the chagrin of the students. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Oct 26 06:57:47 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Jeff H. on Thu Oct 26 04:03:17 2006. Happens on the IRT exceedingly rarely.And considering that the 4 and 1 don't even come close, I doubt the 4 would "simply" borrow a car off the 1. Maybe the 5 or the 6 or the 3 or even the 2. As I've been saying, it's about as likely as the M borrowing a train off the C to make service. It just doesn't happen. You've explained why R-68A's sometimes run on the B and R-46's sometimes run on the E. That's not what's happening here. |
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Posted by Eric B on Thu Oct 26 08:38:48 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Oct 26 03:28:33 2006. The 38's began appearing on the M in 1981, then spread to the QB, D and even R. I was riding to school everyday, and just beginning to get familar with all the different types of equipment, and noticed these cars that loked like a cross between the 32's and 42's. A year later, they all suddenly disappeared, and turned up on the A where they remained to the present.Many don't believe that 38's and even 32's ran on the M, but it seems the assignments were done a bit different than the way they are done today, where the D is strictly out of Concourse. The M/QB/RR and to a large extent, the B all seemed to share the same equipment, based out of CI. (The B was kind of different whn it began to get the slants the same year, but even those eventually spread to the other lines). I am not familar with many of the other lines outside the Brighton before that time, but if it's true that the 38's had already been on the B, it was probably the slants spreading over from the A/AA that pushed the 38's to the other lines. Then the slants followed, and the 38's went to the A, so it was a swap. |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Thu Oct 26 09:24:39 2006, in response to Re: The SubTalk Police are at it Again, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Oct 25 23:07:09 2006. There are four people in the photo wearing sunglasses. Which, if not all, are 'horrible'? Just keep in mind this was seven years ago. Styles in sunglasses have changed.For the record, yours truly is in the back wearing my trusty drugstore clip-ons. On my left wearing the cap is our own Alex L. On the far right is our own BMT Guy. Immediately to his left in the green shirt is Forgotten New York maven Kevin Walsh. The guy with the matching black-and-white bag and T-shirt is our own RIPTA Tunnel. The head to his left belongs to our own Peter Rosa. The fellow to my right in the blue jacket is Faxman, who was a regular fixture on the old Subtalk. I don't know if he made the move over to Subchat under a different handle. The turned head to the right of him belongs to our own Heypaul. I don't recall if Robert or Robert Junior (on the far left) were, or have since become Subtalk/chatters. Back in 1999 Subtalk gatherings were still a new concept. Now many of us can spot each other on sight from a distance. We do look like a motley crew, don't we? I'm sure innocent passersby wondered why a bunch of people would pose for a picture under an elevated expressway. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 26 09:56:58 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by David of Broadway on Thu Oct 26 06:52:21 2006. Hahaha. I went to the High School right next to the Metropolitan Ave, and that HS is a railfan's dream!! We had the subway going back and forth all day long on one side of the building, and the occasional Conrail train next to the M trains.Then the other side (back) of the building had the LIRR going back and forth all day long on the Montauk Branch, which included deadhead passenger moves, engine moves, freight, etc. And to top it all off, in the distance you could see LIRR Fresh Pond yard, and switching all day long in the freight yard. Let me tell you, when those B23-7 Conrail engines (usually 3, and those are the ones they used to use on that line) would come by on the NY Connecting RR, you certainly knew it, the entire building shook. If you were in class in that side of the building, the teachers sometimes had to stop talking for a minute or two to allow them to pass. And then 50+ car freight train! That school was truley a school in the middle of RR tracks! You as a teacher would even have been distracted!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 26 10:00:27 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by Eric B on Thu Oct 26 08:38:48 2006. The R38's were rare, but I did ride them there. The R32's were much more common, especially around 1985 or so (give or take a year). Our mainstay was R27-30's, but we also had the R16's (which came and went off and on), and always had some R40M-42's (grafittied) thrown in, and also the fairly common few trainsets of R40 slants. But the R32's were no strangers to the M in the early to mid 1980's either. And yes, the R38's were splashed in there too, but a little less often than the other 60 foot cars.I have never seen an R10 there, but back then, I wouldn't have been able to distinguish it from an R16 (I didn't think about it). I don't think I ever remember seeing them there though. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 26 10:08:55 2006, in response to Re: R-142A on the 2 today, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Oct 26 03:28:33 2006. What years are you referring to? When I attended E.R. Murrow High School in the mid 70's, the M and the QB were mainly R-27/30's and a few R-42's.As I said in the other post, yes, our mainstay was the R27-30's, some R16's, and the occasional R40-42, but by the 80's, we definitely had the R32's and occasional R38's thrown in too. I remember it clearly. I think since the M mingled at Coney Island, they just threw anything on it that operated out of Coney Island. The M didn't lose it's Coney Island status until the Manhattan Bridge project that threw it off the Brighton and onto the West End. That's when the M lost a lot of it's color. It even lost the R40-42's then! It went to straight R27-30, and later, straight R16 for a half a year or so, truly the barrel's bottom at that time, until the red R30's began to arrive (long after the J got them), and later still when the GOHed R42's and R40 Slants began to come around 1989 or so. |
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