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LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sun Jan 22 22:11:25 2006

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I was on the LIRR today and noticed what looked like an abandoned station between ENY and Jamaica on the Flatbush Ave branch. I looked on forgotten NY and did not see anything. What is this?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 22:12:53 2006, in response to LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sun Jan 22 22:11:25 2006.

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Woodhaven?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Jan 22 22:12:53 2006, in response to LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sun Jan 22 22:11:25 2006.

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Woodhaven station, located between 99th and 102nd Street at Atlantic Avenue. Opened around 1942, closed in 1977.

wayne

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Jan 22 22:26:39 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Jan 22 22:12:53 2006.

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Woodhaven station, located between 99th and 102nd Street at Atlantic Avenue. Opened around 1942, closed in 1977.

If I'm not mistaken, it was all but abandoned for several years prior to its closing, with just a handful of trains per day and extremely low ridership.

My LIRR/NYCT blog

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:28:16 2006, in response to LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sun Jan 22 22:11:25 2006.

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Forgotten NY is not the authority on abandoned stations, THIS SITE is. And it has your answers.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 22:30:38 2006, in response to LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sun Jan 22 22:11:25 2006.

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Here's a photo of Woodhaven, lower level, before it was abandoned:


(Someone emailed this photo to me some time ago, and I apologize, I don't remember who it was, so can't credit you. I will take the photo down in a short while).

And here's some photos I took of the upper level, right upstairs, this connecting station being on the abandoned Rockaway line. The lower level on the Brooklyn line lost most of it's riders once the transfer to the Rockaway line ended because of the abandonement of the Rockaway line:











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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:33:02 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 22:30:38 2006.

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I will take the photo down in a short while

Not before I saved it to a folder of photos on my hard drive that I have credited to you.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by VictorM on Sun Jan 22 23:22:27 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 22:30:38 2006.

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Joe Brennan credits that top photo to Art Hunecke (of Arrts-Arrchives.com fame). Link. (near bottom)

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 22 23:35:12 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 22:30:38 2006.

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Thank you for posting those pictures.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 22 23:48:20 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 22 22:28:16 2006.

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I am proud to say that I notified Joe of the b/w pic of Woodhaven when it was new. Joe got permission from Art Huneke to use it.

Its rare to get that great of a shot.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 22 23:50:51 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 22 23:35:12 2006.

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I still say Woodhaven residents got shafted. They lost 2 LIRR stations, and now have to use either the J or QB local lines to get to the city. The underground LIRR station would still seem to serve a purpose, especially considering how crowded Woodhaven has become as a community.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Tunnel Rat on Sun Jan 22 23:54:15 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 22 23:48:20 2006.

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It was also built to IND standards,center entrance,room for token booths& turnstilesand an underpass to conn.n/b&s/b tracks.also it hasBLUE tiles on the walls.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jan 23 01:21:50 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 22 23:50:51 2006.

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I'd like to give them a perak direction express on a third track on the J train, but I can't. :0(

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 06:39:53 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 22:30:38 2006.

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Should have just put up the pic of the underground station.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 06:43:41 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 06:39:53 2006.

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Why?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 06:58:43 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 06:43:41 2006.

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The pics from the abondoned station upstairs have been shown many times.
But not the pic from the underground platform.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 07:13:35 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 22 23:50:51 2006.

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what they should do is run the C from Euclid up the old Rockaway ROW in Ozone Park (re-open that station) and have it terminate at the old Woodhaven station. Then re-open the LIRR Woodhaven stop for tranfers. NIMBYs would probably not compain about a re-opened Rock from Woodhaven to the Liberty El.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 07:15:56 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 06:58:43 2006.

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That's not a reason NOT to show them. Some people haven't seen them.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jan 23 07:23:47 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 22:30:38 2006.

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I walked that entire branch with a friend in the early 90's. Boy, nature really is reclaiming it with all that extra foliage.

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:32:13 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 07:15:56 2006.

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All people would have to do to search thru the old postings.
Those pics have been posted already.

But not too many pics from underground have been posted.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:34:01 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 06:39:53 2006.

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Why? The guy asking about the underground station, may not know that at one time there were actually two stations, and it was actually a transfer "mini-hub". It went from that to nothing.
It's on topic to his question, and an elaboration of it.
Anyone that knows of or has seen photos of the upper station could just have clicked away. Even someone on dial up that has seen the photos already, saw in my description that anything under that description was of the upper station, and stopped, and clicked away.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 07:34:58 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:32:13 2006.

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Why should someone search through old postings? How would they even know what to search for? Why would they even be searching in the first place? Chris posted cool photos for all to see and there's no reason he shouldn't have. Why are you causing trouble by making stupid comments?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:35:25 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by VictorM on Sun Jan 22 23:22:27 2006.

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Ah, okay. I didn't get it from him though. "Someone" else emailed that photo to me a few years ago....some SubTalker.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:40:19 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:34:01 2006.

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Maybe a pic or 2 of upstairs was ok.
But how many pics of the underground platform have been seen?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:42:23 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jan 23 07:23:47 2006.

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That's when I walked it....in the early 90's. That's when I took the photos. I walked part of it in the sumnmer (when I took the photos of WOodhaven), but we stopped because the place further along was infested with poison ivy, and we only had shorts on, not to mention I get poison ivy if I walk through it (as does the friend I was with), so we left the ROW.
I went on a walking tour of the line from Whitepot south to about Parkside. After the tour, we Walked down to the LIRR Montauk Branch, where the spot where the bridge over the Montauk Branch burnt down (it was wood).

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:44:33 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:42:23 2006.

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Oh, the tour I mentioned was in the winter, which is a better time to walk the line because of the Poison Ivy everywhere other times of year. The tour, come to think of it, was in the mid 90's, some years after the time my friend and I attempted to walk it.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:46:22 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:40:19 2006.

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Uh, seeing I only had one photo of the underground station, that's all I could post of it (and it's not even my photo!).
Excuse me for starting to start a conversation about the rest of the Woodhaven former complex.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:51:03 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 07:34:58 2006.

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Chris posted a cool photo of the abondoned underground platform.
One that hasn't been seen too much if at all.

The pics from upstairs have been seen many times.
Just search from the main page and anyone'll find them.



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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:51:53 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:35:25 2006.

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And that pic is worth remembering!

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:57:10 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 07:46:22 2006.

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OK it's not your photo.
But of a very few photos I've seen of the underground platform at Woodhaven, it's the best one I've seen. I like the view of looking down the catwalk and the tunnel. The only thing I didn't like of the other photos was that they've been posted before.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 08:14:57 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:51:03 2006.

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The pics from upstairs have been seen many times.

That is not a reason NOT to post them.

Just search from the main page and anyone'll find them.

Someone who has never seen them would not know that they exist. So how would they search for them? They didn't learn of their existence UNTIL CHRIS POSTED THEM! Why are you still so dumb?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 08:16:51 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:57:10 2006.

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I don't like that you post here, but I don't tell you not to. So don't tell Chris not to post photos that the rest of us enjoy.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 08:26:50 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Jan 22 22:26:39 2006.

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Yes, that is true. Once the Rockaway line closed, it's real need ended (or at least where most of it's passengers came from).

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 08:27:53 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:51:53 2006.

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And that's why I posted it. I am glad now I know that it came from Art.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 08:30:59 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:57:10 2006.

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So you are happy I posted that photo of the lower level, and because you were so thrilled and extatic to see that photo of the underground station, you got so upset that you also saw photos of the upper level station, so much so that they tarnished your happy experience of seeing the lower level station.
Can I say "therapy"?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 08:35:50 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 08:16:51 2006.

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Hey Douceman,

TAKE - THIS!!!!




(photo from "Change at Ozone Park" by Herbert George - a must for any rockaway line fan)


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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Dave on Mon Jan 23 08:37:07 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 07:51:03 2006.

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<< The pics from upstairs have been seen many times. >>

I've never seen them.


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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jan 23 10:02:17 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 07:34:58 2006.

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"Why should someone search through old postings?"

Because you can't search through postings that haven't been created yet.

:0)

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by mambomta on Mon Jan 23 10:07:09 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 07:13:35 2006.

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what they should do is run the C from Euclid up the old Rockaway ROW in Ozone Park (re-open that station) and have it terminate at the old Woodhaven station.

Where would you put the connection?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:41:40 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 08:14:57 2006.

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That's why there is a search function.
Someone could have read about Woodhaven upper and looked pics from it.
But the pic Chris pasted about the underground platform was likely a new one in here.


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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:45:06 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 08:35:50 2006.

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That looks like a pic of Woodhaven (maybe Ozone Park) when the line and station was still open. Much better than the other pics.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 23 11:47:31 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:41:40 2006.

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The search function sucks. Have you ever tried it?

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:48:15 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:41:40 2006.

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I can't believe this topic about the "problem" with the upper level photos lasted more than one or two posts.

Anyway, since you have to beat this poor dead horse further to death. I searched "Woodhaven station" for you, and no where does the post where I posted those photos before come up:

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=woodhaven+station&q1=site%3Awww.subchat.com&cp=1252

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:49:06 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 08:30:59 2006.

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It just fulfilled a long held dream of knowing what the lower level station looked like. Especially when my brother-in-law is always talking about hangimg out on that station in his younger days.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:49:58 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:45:06 2006.

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It's a photo of the dreaded (by you) upper level station of Woodhaven station when it was still in use. Compare to the "dreaded" photos I posted earlier, and some are at similar angles. See, you never would have seen it if I didn't post the abandoned photos earlier....

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:51:10 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by Dave on Mon Jan 23 08:37:07 2006.

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As Brian would put it GOOGLE IT!!!.
I'd say go to search and look it up.
Those pics have been posted before.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:52:09 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:49:06 2006.

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See, so it was just that. You were just so overcome by having seen a photo of the lower level, that this almost orgasming* experience was tarnished by the view of the upper level of the complex being seen again with it....

*Joke

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:54:02 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jan 23 10:02:17 2006.

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The pics have been posted in the past.

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:55:12 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:51:10 2006.

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Even if someone knew what to look for (some people don't know that station was called Woodhaven), "My" photos don't come up in a google search for Woodhaven Station:

http://images.google.com/images?q=woodhaven+station&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

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Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:03:28 2006, in response to Re: LIRR Abandoned Station between ENY and Jamaica?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jan 23 11:45:06 2006.

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Much better than the other pics.

Yes, the station was in much better shape when the station was still in use:



Same angle, just from opposite platform:

(disclaimer: these photos were already posted elsewhere in this thread, just not together in the same post)

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