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Re: Fate of R110B |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Thu Jan 5 12:04:22 2006, in response to Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 5 12:01:53 2006. They can always do the Rockaway Park shuttle. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 13:18:52 2006, in response to Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 5 12:01:53 2006. I thought an R-110B car was sitting behind Transit Tech High (the MTA Academy) in Bensonhurst? |
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Re: Fate of R110B |
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Posted by joe c on Thu Jan 5 13:34:12 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 13:18:52 2006. That's PS 248,an MTA training center near the D line.yes there is anR110B car there. til next time |
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Posted by joe c on Thu Jan 5 13:37:06 2006, in response to Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 5 12:01:53 2006. I don't see them going back into service ever.til next time |
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Posted by mambomta on Thu Jan 5 13:38:16 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by joe c on Thu Jan 5 13:34:12 2006. A "B"-car to be precise. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jan 5 13:54:28 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by mambomta on Thu Jan 5 13:38:16 2006. And the two A cars are inside the Fire school at CIY from that unit.Robert |
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Posted by joe c on Thu Jan 5 14:50:17 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by mambomta on Thu Jan 5 13:38:16 2006. I know.til next time |
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Posted by R68A - 5200 on Thu Jan 5 19:44:27 2006, in response to Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 5 12:01:53 2006. They'd have to run 'em in two car sets if anything on the shuttle. The platforms are only 170' long. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jan 5 20:06:43 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by mambomta on Thu Jan 5 13:38:16 2006. Aw, damn.Ah well, I'll get a shot of it anyway. |
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Posted by L Train on Thu Jan 5 23:01:50 2006, in response to Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 5 12:01:53 2006. It sucks how the MTA teased us by giving us a taste of the R110B and subsequently taking it out of service. The R143 is a great car but it pales in comparison to its predecessor. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jan 6 00:00:13 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by L Train on Thu Jan 5 23:01:50 2006. What's wrong with the R143? |
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Posted by L Train on Fri Jan 6 00:02:00 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jan 6 00:00:13 2006. Nothing, but the R110B seems to be the better car. |
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| (197310) | |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jan 6 07:01:19 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by L Train on Thu Jan 5 23:01:50 2006. "It sucks how the MTA teased us by giving us a taste of the R110B and subsequently taking it out of service."I don't think the MTA teased anyone. The R-110B was just a test vehicle for new technology and new ideas. The 67ft. design was ditched in favor of the 60ft. length. The R-1110B essentially gave us the R-143/160. Bill "Newkirk" |
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Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos) |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Jan 6 13:12:15 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jan 5 13:54:28 2006.   both from april '05 |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Jan 6 13:42:45 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by L Train on Thu Jan 5 23:01:50 2006. It sucks how the MTA teased us by giving us a taste of the R110B and subsequently taking it out of serviceit also sucks that they took the 1-9's, AB's, Q's, C"s, D's out of service as well |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 13:45:25 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jan 6 07:01:19 2006. Most people fail to understand that. Being a test vehicle for all that new technology, I'm sure they would be a major headache to keep on the road. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 13:49:35 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by L Train on Fri Jan 6 00:02:00 2006. Why? Cosmetically, I agree. I prefer the seating arrangement, and I like the manual rollsign and train identification sign on the bulkhead. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jan 6 13:51:19 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by monorail on Fri Jan 6 13:42:45 2006. 'cmon, those cars you mention had seen thier day, were in service for a long time, and cannot be compared to the R-110s. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 13:52:42 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by L Train on Thu Jan 5 23:01:50 2006. What doesn't suck is that the MTA did NOT repeat the mistake they made in 1971 when they bought that era's "new technology car" in large numbers without a prototype to test the feasibility of these new bells and whistles. 35 years later, the R44 is STILL a major headache. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 6 14:24:03 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 13:45:25 2006. And besides, small fleets have not fared as well as the larger ones. |
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Posted by Subway Camper on Fri Jan 6 18:36:50 2006, in response to Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 5 12:01:53 2006. Um, the R68s are fine and do their job well. Remember, the MTA doesn't, and shouldn't, care the least about railfans. |
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Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jan 6 23:37:39 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by monorail on Fri Jan 6 13:12:15 2006. *sigh* |
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Posted by Amanda on Fri Jan 6 23:47:38 2006, in response to Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 5 12:01:53 2006. Framklin Shuttle? Is this line the home of 76th St? |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Sat Jan 7 00:10:36 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by R68A - 5200 on Thu Jan 5 19:44:27 2006. If that if the case, they will not be able to use the "B" cars in any of the sets. They would have to run them as an "A-A" set.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by mambomta on Sat Jan 7 00:38:41 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by #3 West End Jeff on Sat Jan 7 00:10:36 2006. If that if the case, they will not be able to use the "B" cars in any of the sets. They would have to run them as an "A-A" set.You can't run A-A sets. You would be missing necessary equipment. |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jan 7 03:27:52 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jan 6 13:51:19 2006. since the 110's were EXPERIMENTALtheir days were numbered as soon as they started running |
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Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos) |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jan 7 12:24:46 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jan 6 23:37:39 2006. Well, at least they're preserved in mint, clean condition.Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 7 12:26:08 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by monorail on Fri Jan 6 13:12:15 2006. Ah so they finally took out those RedBirds huh? My turn will be up soon again for Fire School,look forward to seeing them. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jan 7 12:45:11 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 7 12:26:08 2006. Thats right. I been to Fire School two times in 2005. The first time had the Redbird in Feb and the second time in Aug it had the R110B.They also got a R110B at PS 248. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 7 13:01:39 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by monorail on Sat Jan 7 03:27:52 2006. Well, in the past most experimentals saw more service than these. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 7 13:27:11 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 7 13:01:39 2006. Not the Green Hornet. That baby saw about 7-8 years of service before the War Dept. "drafted" it for scrap. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 7 14:35:45 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 7 13:27:11 2006. Yeah, but the R110's didn't even see that! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 7 14:38:00 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Subway Camper on Fri Jan 6 18:36:50 2006. What does it have to do with railfans?It had nothing to do with railfans when they threw the other experimentals on the shuttle in years past. It's sort of a waste to have a trainset just unused instead of put to good use. |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jan 7 14:38:47 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 7 14:35:45 2006. the previous 'experimental' cars(other than the R11/34)were received by private companies the R110's were received by MTA |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 7 14:39:23 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 6 13:45:25 2006. That's the main reason they aren't used. It would be expensive to keep a few oddball cars around, needing to keep parts for them handy. |
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Posted by ALP44 on Sat Jan 7 14:45:34 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Amanda on Fri Jan 6 23:47:38 2006. Nope. That is the home line to Dekalib Ave station.Until then..... ALP 44 8^P |
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Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos) |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jan 7 14:55:02 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jan 7 12:45:11 2006. hopefully, you did not get 'burned' while you were there |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 7 14:57:39 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 7 14:35:45 2006. Yes it did. It first ran on the A line in 1992, and was running on the C line as late as 2000. The R110A had a shorter service life. I believe it hasn't run in revenue service since 1997/98. |
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Posted by David H on Sat Jan 7 15:58:03 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 7 14:39:23 2006. Then they should be gutted and retrofitted to run with the rest of the fleet.. |
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Posted by mambomta on Sat Jan 7 17:38:10 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by David H on Sat Jan 7 15:58:03 2006. Then they should be gutted and retrofitted to run with the rest of the fleet..It is not worth it for 2 reasons: 1. It will probably cost as much as a brand-new R160 trainset. 2. Unlike the R11/34 cars, you cannot intermix the R110B cars with anything else as there are no other 67-ft equipment. |
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Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos) |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Jan 7 18:02:52 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 7 12:26:08 2006. Again? When I first went to fire school in 1988, they removed a long bench seat from one of the R12s and used it as a bridge to go from car to car between adjacent tracks and the TSSs showed us how to fire a powder extinguisher into the wind. The only other time I went was after 911. The smoke generating contraption under the R30s was the only addition in those 13 years I can recall. They did not set up regular refresher courses for us before 911 and I never visited an emergency exit other than C/R and T/O breakins. I hope they send you to these important classes on an annual basis, like they do with medicals |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jan 7 19:33:08 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by monorail on Sat Jan 7 14:55:02 2006. No I was playing the disorderly Customer saying Transit workers suck and I'm late for my date because they stopped in the middle of the tunnel and I had to leave the train.I sprayed the guy who started the fire with the extingisher. They said aim for the source of the fire? |
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Posted by Line 13 on Sat Jan 7 20:13:27 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jan 6 23:37:39 2006. There are still six cars left... |
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Posted by Line 13 on Sat Jan 7 20:14:59 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by mambomta on Sat Jan 7 17:38:10 2006. 2. Unlike the R11/34 cars, you cannot intermix the R110B cars with anything else as there are no other 67-ft equipment.Run them with BMT Standards! ;-) |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jan 7 20:56:56 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jan 7 19:33:08 2006. hopefully it worked |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jan 7 21:09:49 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Line 13 on Sat Jan 7 20:14:59 2006. use an adapter and find something |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jan 7 21:28:30 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by mambomta on Sat Jan 7 17:38:10 2006. "2. Unlike the R11/34 cars, you cannot intermix the R110B cars with anything else as there are no other 67-ft equipment."Hey, SEPTA's Broad St. subway cars are 67ft long. That would make a weird lashup ! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 7 22:51:08 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 7 14:57:39 2006. I only got to ride the R110A once, and the R110B twice (both on the A).A shame, I really like them. I do like the R143's too, but I REALLY liked the R110B. I think they were the most attractive car, especially the exterior. the rollsign makes all the difference. I didn't much care for the R110A that much. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jan 8 11:10:14 2006, in response to Re: Fate of R110B(fire school photos), posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jan 7 12:45:11 2006. What is the purpose of the car at P.S. 248?avid |
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