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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 5 07:56:21 2025 Tuscarora Almanac for March 5 1941 – from The Book of First Runs The three- section articulated train known as the "Bluebird" begins service today on the BMT No. 2 Fourth Avenue Line. The five production units are numbered 8001-8005. They were preceded by the first “Bluebird” No. 8000. She could not MU with the other cars and ran as a single unit. 1944 – from The Book of Last Runs The operation of BMT elevated trains across the Brooklyn Bridge comes to an end today. 1984 – from The Book of Last Runs The Thornwood Station on Metro-North's Harlem Line is closed. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Joe on Thu Mar 6 12:26:30 2025, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 5 07:56:21 2025. March 5, 1944, was a Sunday, and Dad brought me on the last train from Park Row to Bridge Street (renamed Bridge-Jay). At the Jay Street exit, paper transfers were already being issued for a streetcar ride to Park Row. I am having difficulty posting the image here.file:///C:/Users/cjmcm/Downloads/20250306_095444.jpg 
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Posted by Joe on Thu Mar 6 14:24:00 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Joe on Thu Mar 6 12:26:30 2025. The transfer reads:Bridge-Jay St. Station 00070 Mar 5 1944 Good for a continuing trip on the DeKalb, Seventh or Smith-Coney Island Lines toward Brooklyn Bridge or Park Row only, at Myrtle Ave. and Jay St. Issued by BMT Division of N. Y. C. Transit System, for a passenger desiring to continue trip beyond Bridge-Jay St. station toward Brooklyn Bridge or Park Row. Is good only on date of issue and time limit indicated. Acceptable only from passenger to whom issued. (Torn for 1 P. M.) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Mar 6 18:30:30 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Joe on Thu Mar 6 12:26:30 2025. You have to upload that picture to a host site if you want to share it here. |
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Posted by Joe on Fri Mar 7 16:37:08 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Mar 6 18:30:30 2025.  |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Mar 7 22:39:25 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Joe on Fri Mar 7 16:37:08 2025. Nice! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 8 14:56:13 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Joe on Thu Mar 6 14:24:00 2025. Can someone tell me why there was no ticket transfer between Bridge/Jay and the IND Jay St station? Fulton St & Franklin Ave had one between the shuttle and the subway. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat Mar 8 15:43:55 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 8 14:56:13 2025. Mike: This might help. Tuscarora Dispatch No 15 Bus and Subway Transfers at Jay Street and High Street The operation of BMT el trains across the Brooklyn Bridge came to an end on March 5, 1944 and the remaining el lines were cut back to a new terminal called Bridge-Jay Streets. Transfers were issued to and from the BMT trolley cars running across the bridge to Park Row. Trolley cars ceased operating across the bridge on March 6, 1950. A transfer was established for surface lines at the Brooklyn end of the bridge to the IND High Street Station. A transfer was also established between the BMT Bridge-Jay Streets Station and the IND Jay Street Station. In both cases the transfers from surface lines and the el trains indicated that they were valid on the IND subway only as far as Broadway - Nassau Street. Passengers going from Manhattan to Brooklyn would request transfer upon exiting from the railroad clerk at High Street for the surface lines or at Jay Street for the el lines. Sometime in the middle 1950's the TA began to restrict this transfer privilege. Beginning on June 25, 1956 the transfers to the bus lines formerly issued at High Street would now be issued only at Broadway - Nassau Street to someone buying a token. Three months later on September 15, 1956 the transfer to the el lines formerly issued at Jay Street would now be issued only at Broadway - Nassau Street to someone buying a token. This privilege was further restricted on January 1, 1957 when transfer from the el to the subway would only be issued by railroad clerks at stations between Sumner Avenue and Navy Street to passengers buying a token and requesting one. At nights and all day Sunday there were no agents on duty at these stations and fares were collected on the train by the conductor. During these times the railroad clerk at Bridge-Jay Streets issued the transfer. Presumably at this time the transfers to the el trains issued at Broadway - Nassau Street began bearing the legend "valid only for a continuing ride for stations from Navy Street to Sumner Avenue." The Myrtle Avenue El was discontinued south of Broadway (Brooklyn) on October 4, 1969 its replacement was the B-54 Myrtle Avenue bus. The transfer privilege to and from the IND at Jay Street was retained presumably with the same restrictions. The bus transfer privileges established at High Street on March 6, 1950 were to five routes; B-57, B-62, B-67, B-69 and B-75. On February 7, 1988 the B-67 and B-75 were re-routed and the transfer point for these two routes was moved to Jay Street. On January 1, 1990 the TA discontinued all but two subway to bus transfer points. The two exceptions were at Rockaway Parkway to the B-42 and at 3rd Avenue - 149th Street to the Bx-55. I am indebted to Mr. Bernard Linder for an article titled "Rapid Transit Transfers" which appeared in the February, 1980 issue of The Bulletin and to a subsequent article which appeared in the February, 1990 issue of The Bulletin for this information. I also referred to my collections of subway maps. Done: June 4, 2014 Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 8 16:47:43 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat Mar 8 15:43:55 2025. I can attest that in 1968-69, when I was exploring the entire system, I went to Broadway-Nassau and obtained one of those transfers to the Myrtle Avenue Line. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Mar 9 03:04:26 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 8 16:47:43 2025. My father died in July of 1958 and when my mother and I went to visit his grave at Lutheran Cemetery later that summer, we were able to get a paper transfer from the IND at jay St to the Myrtle Ave el. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 9 08:49:25 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 8 16:47:43 2025. The BMT standards were still rolling along on the Lonesome Larry then. I rode on them every Saturday to Saturday School. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 9 13:25:52 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Joe on Fri Mar 7 16:37:08 2025. Cool. That's a rarity. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sun Mar 9 16:38:45 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 9 08:49:25 2025. The last BMT Standards were retired in August 1969. When we came back to Stuyvesant High School after summer vacation R6-R9 cars had been brought in from the IND to replace them. They looked out of place on the Lousy Local as we called it. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 9 20:37:55 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by murray1575 on Sun Mar 9 16:38:45 2025. I considered them an improvement. At least they had signs up front, even if they didn't use any front destination signs on the Three Stooges Division. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 9 20:58:01 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 9 20:37:55 2025. Plus in 1969 the R7 & 9s were only about 30 years old. |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Mar 9 21:38:06 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 9 20:58:01 2025. I loved the arnines (at least until they painted them silver w/blue stripe, or worse, white), but their bare-bulb incandescents made them look old compared to any of the fluorescent bulb cars. By 1969 most BMT riders had already experienced the R16, R27/30, and R32.  
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 9 21:43:52 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 9 21:38:06 2025. No comment |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 9 23:01:41 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 9 21:38:06 2025. "but their bare-bulb incandescents made them look old compared to any of the fluorescent bulb cars."Truth! Next to the post war equipment, they looked about at least 50 years older than they were. One reason the R32s lasted so long as they did is they looked good, even as they were going down their last mile by 1st ave in Brooklyn |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 9 23:11:05 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 9 23:01:41 2025. That true.The best looking cars ever junked. |
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Posted by zac on Mon Mar 10 00:03:17 2025, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 5, posted by murray1575 on Sun Mar 9 16:38:45 2025. I went to Stuy too at that time. I remember thinking they replaced one old car with another. Even though the newest R9s were only about 30 years old at the time they were designed in the 20s for the IND so were barely a newer design than the standards. They had dim lighting, really uncomfortable plastic seats that replaced the originals, they groaned, they smelled and they left a puff of smoke as they pulled out of the station. Meanwhile the rest of the BMT/IND had been getting new cars. They did put a few sets of R42s on the LL though. |
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