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[VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jan 8 09:21:32 2025




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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 8 09:49:25 2025, in response to [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jan 8 09:21:32 2025.

This depresses me to no end. I might become suicidal when they retire the R6s.

But, progress...

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 8 09:49:37 2025, in response to [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jan 8 09:21:32 2025.

This depresses me to no end. I might become suicidal when they retire the R68s.

But, progress...

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 8 12:52:36 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 8 09:49:25 2025.

I'm depressed as well. I managed the R-46 warranty and acceptance at Jamaica Shop in the early 90s. That fleet became "mine" from then, on.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by italianguyinsi on Wed Jan 8 14:30:08 2025, in response to [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jan 8 09:21:32 2025.

Sad sight.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jan 8 21:27:58 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 8 12:52:36 2025.

Your babies, as it were.:)

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 8 22:02:28 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by italianguyinsi on Wed Jan 8 14:30:08 2025.

Understand, but given my faves (R 32's--I am a Budd disciple) everything newer is just equipment...

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 8 22:05:19 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jan 8 21:27:58 2025.

When I got hired in late 1979 and thru at least the mid 80's when I regularly worked the line, we called it "The Dog".

B was Boy
M was Mary
N was Nancy

Because with accents, that was the way to make sure with B & D; M & N.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Thu Jan 9 03:24:04 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 8 22:02:28 2025.

Same here.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 9 08:40:14 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 8 22:02:28 2025.

Yep. Once the R68s go I'm probably gonna just abandon any interest in the subway


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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Jan 9 10:52:30 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 9 08:40:14 2025.

That will be the end of roll signs. Where is the nearest bus/train to NYC that would still be using roll signs at that point?

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jan 9 18:28:36 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 9 08:40:14 2025.

I remain interested in both the history, and further route extensions/service changes, but as to equipment...meh. I live in BART territory which ran its last legacy cars a while back. (Yes I was out that day) So, for me it is just a mediocre subway (no owl service...) which overcharges (distance based rates, no passes ) That said, I do make efforts to take youths on the rails--for instance a ride on the first all EMU day of Caltrain service.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 9 20:59:47 2025, in response to [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jan 8 09:21:32 2025.

Not gonna lie, I NEVER liked the 44/46/68 car classes. Whack-ass RFWs (if they weren't being covered with newspapers, jackets, posters), big, lumbering, couldn't walk between cars.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 9 22:31:40 2025, in response to [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jan 8 09:21:32 2025.

There was a video going around today with 6170 and friends making the same move to 38th St. Yard.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by gbs on Thu Jan 9 22:49:10 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 9 20:59:47 2025.


The R44/46 had the handsomest front end of all car classes, mostly because of the flush storm door (which apparently proved impractical and was abandoned in the next several car classes), and the chains hidden behind the trap door, and also the graceful curve of the fiberglass crease above the windows and door.




Of course, all good things must come to an end...



The R68 front is nowhere near as nice looking. The storm door is again recessed, the chains are visible along with the by-now standard springs, and the fiberglass crease is straight across, not parallel to the curve of the windows.



I agree about the RFW and the walking between cars, and while I liked the R46 class originally, when an R46 arrives these days they're sad looking and tired. I never liked the R68 class, especially when they reconfigured and linked them and removed the RFW. To me those are the lumbering hippos.


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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 9 23:23:24 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by gbs on Thu Jan 9 22:49:10 2025.

I like the R10/12/14 look the best

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jan 10 20:50:34 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 9 23:23:24 2025.

And the R-10 racing stripe scheme was the best paint job ever!

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jan 11 05:21:46 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jan 10 20:50:34 2025.

I gotta disagree.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jan 11 08:06:22 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jan 11 05:21:46 2025.

And that's OK.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 11 10:36:35 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by gbs on Thu Jan 9 22:49:10 2025.

I always favored the tartar red and tan scheme of the R-15s

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jan 11 11:10:05 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 11 10:36:35 2025.

They had unique side doors as well as comphie seating.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 11 14:19:59 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 9 20:59:47 2025.

I like them because they are like rail cars and have a nice ride. I also believe the premiere lines like the A and D should feature 75 footers. The 60 foot subway cars have their place as well.
I do agree with the R-10,12,14 group. I just never rode them in service.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jan 11 17:07:24 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 11 14:19:59 2025.

The R15s were a good riding car, especially with those comfy leatherette padded seats. They rode better than the R12/14s IMO

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jan 11 19:26:20 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jan 11 08:06:22 2025.

Personally I preferred the white and blue scheme without the stripe, but on those cars, I preferred the Ronan color scheme the best on all the SMEE cars from the 10s to 36s. Except the WF Bluebird scheme. I liked that as well. The Ronan colors in the R1-9s looked stupid IMO

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jan 11 19:59:20 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jan 11 19:26:20 2025.

I never actually saw an IND old timer in the platinum mist and blue scheme, but it did look out of character on them.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 12 03:36:42 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 11 10:36:35 2025.

The original color of the R-15s was a lot darker than Tartar red. It was more of a maroon.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jan 12 07:57:28 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 12 03:36:42 2025.

Didn't the R-17s sport a similar maroon shade when new?

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jan 12 10:43:39 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 12 03:36:42 2025.

Newly arrived R15s in Corona. Color is a little faded but still enough shows thru.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 12 11:11:41 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jan 12 10:43:39 2025.

Thank you

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jan 12 12:18:39 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 12 11:11:41 2025.

Your welcome!

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jan 12 16:31:00 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 11 10:36:35 2025.

Another shot of the R15s in service somewhere in Jackson Heights passing a work train pulled by some semi-retired Qs. Amazing how they got so dirty considering the Flushing Line was mostly above ground.


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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Mon Jan 13 03:16:46 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jan 12 07:57:28 2025.

The were a slightly lighter shade,a bit darker than the fox red that they got during the Gunn era.

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Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Mon Jan 13 03:24:51 2025, in response to Re: [VIDEO] R46 Subway Cars Towed to 38th St Yard, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jan 12 16:31:00 2025.

I also noticed that about the 12s and 14s. While the R-10s which in their early years ran 100% underground and had their colors completely ”steel dusted” the 2 tone grey with red striping was still sort of visible on the 12s and 14s.

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