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Tuscarora Almanac for July 26

Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Fri Jul 26 06:32:57 2024



Tuscarora Almanac for July 26



1905 – from The Book of First Runs

The first revenue train of electric MU cars is placed in service today on a run from Rockaway Park to Flatbush Avenue. The new MU’s are designated MP-41 and are virtually identical to the Gibbs High Voltage Motors operating by the Interborough Rapid Transit Company,



1917 – from The Book of Last Runs

New York Railways discontinues service on the Bleecker Street Line.

It was the last horse car line in the city. At the end of the run the horse was promptly shot.

Larry, RedbirdR33



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 26

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 26 20:12:35 2024, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for July 26, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Fri Jul 26 06:32:57 2024.

The gentleman who took us in for two months in Paterson in 1967 said he remembered horsecars in New York in 1916. I wonder if he was referring to this line.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 26

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jul 28 23:42:06 2024, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for July 26, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Fri Jul 26 06:32:57 2024.

And today if they did that with the horse, PETA would have been all over them for it.

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Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 29 08:35:30 2024, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for July 26, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Fri Jul 26 06:32:57 2024.





By rail to the Rockaways

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Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 29 13:45:13 2024, in response to Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 29 08:35:30 2024.

Hmm.
These cars were just like the cars the IRT operated.
Were the dimensions the same?

Im gathering they were similar, since the Atlantic Tunnels were built for trains this size.
Modification was carried out, so the larger railcars could operate through.

So what changed?

Did the LIRR really need to purchase larger cars to operate,or separate itself from the rapid transit system?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 26 photo

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 29 16:37:57 2024, in response to Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 29 08:35:30 2024.

You really are obsessed with distorting the words in the OP's title, aintcha?

Great photos though.

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Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 30 07:50:00 2024, in response to Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 29 13:45:13 2024.

The Gibbs Hi-Vs bore a striling resemblance to those cars.

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Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 30 20:39:34 2024, in response to Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 30 07:50:00 2024.

YES.
And That was the premise behind my post.

The IND went through a similar phase, to find a car that would be ideal for passengers.

They settled on a modified version of the D types... which became the R1 through 9.

The BMT settled on several distinct railcars, but none of them were "ideal",as those designs were never repeated..

The variation, and evolution of the IRT remained pretty basic, until the city took over the company..
The R12 introduced the new body styles, and the R15 introduced the turtle back roof line.
While OKAY, the design didn't hang around, only to be replaced with a common style shared between divisions.

R16,17,21,22,26,27,28,29,30,30a,32,32a, and 38,all share these features, with various modifications.

The next batch offered updates to the design.. from new bonnets,new train identification and updated signs.
Also, interiors were slightly altered to let in more light via large profile windows.
The R40,40a and R42 were a "change" in appearance to the standard body type.

The next batch were purchased for the next wave of new subway routes planned by the City..
These routes were to share various railroad Right of Way, and needed to be "beefed up".
The R44,46, and the designed but never built R55,were the cars built for the new routes.

The Railroads finally came to the subway system,as the new cars had that Big Railroad car feel...
Being 75ft long,10ft at the belly,9'9 at the roofline... the cars were Big, hefty and roomy.

They were capable of operating at speeds up to 80 miles per hour on reserve rows.
However, the R46s were operated along the Queens Blvd line,in "regulated mode", capped at 65 mph.

Body styles were an extended version of the R42, with modifications,of course.
The next batch were another modification of the Now "standard" design..
The 68s were pretty basic... same bodies as those that came before it,yet somewhat different.
Body style had sharper tapered side panels and door..
All stainless steel interiors.unlike the soft interior of the previous order.

The next group reintroduced the standard rolling stock at 60ft 6 inches..

The R143 were the FIRST in a multi contract replacement order for the B Division.
Though small,this order changed the landscape and feeling of the subway.
Advanced interiors, that were bright,gave off a "hospital emergency room" feel.
The cars also presented a new type of systems check.. to pinpoint problem areas..
CBTC signaling and tracking were available, enabling the trains to operate practically by themselves.

The next batch of cars were a large order,identical to the 143s.
1662 R160s were purchased to replace the older models from the 1960s,to early 70s.

Likewise, for the IRT, almost 1700 new R142,142a, and 188 new technology cars were purchased to replace the old Redbirds,

Before that, the IRT received the R62, and 62a to replace its post war cars from the 1948 to 1959.

The B division also received a semi continuation of the 160 contract, the R179, from 2017 to 2019.
These cars replaced the remaining R32s and 42 still lingering around.
The A,C and J lines received them,as they were the last holdover from the older equipment.

Today, the subway is receiving a brand new batch of railcars,R211, to replace the now old" space Age" R46s.

Two large contracts,535 base order and 645 option order.. with some built,in A and C service.

The base order is nearly complete, with Some option cars being built as I write this.

A 2nd option order is in the works, for fleet expansion... especially for the L line,E and N.


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Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Aug 1 07:08:20 2024, in response to Re: Tuscar Almanc for July 26 photo, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 30 20:39:34 2024.

Well informed piece, thanks for the info.

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