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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 21:36:45 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 20:53:56 2023.

Sure. I can find "irregardless" in the dictionary too.



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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 21:37:29 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 20 21:05:09 2023.

Irregardless of what you might say, I stand my ground. :)



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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 21:46:36 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 21:37:29 2023.

😂

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 21:50:22 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 20 21:05:09 2023.

Well, it's in the dictionary. 😂

I had the same understanding as Al and S-P but I looked it up. English isn't stagnant I guess.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 20 23:41:51 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 20:51:56 2023.

Lol, that's just your opinion.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Nov 21 00:05:06 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 20:51:56 2023.

perhaps o'm concentrating on specifics rather then overall system metrics.

but:



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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 21 01:08:50 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 21:50:22 2023.

sure ain't. stagnant equals not used. gigabit is nicer than irregardless IMHO, buty since we don't have an English Academy, and for that matter buy current French fiction. The vocabulary is not what you might have learnt in HS.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 21 08:12:24 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 21:37:29 2023.

Time for some personal attacks?

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 21 08:59:13 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 17:05:25 2023.

Nightbus can be done in NY. There are some hurdles to clear (overnight construction at bridges/tunnels that can mess up the whole line, the limited number of East River crossings on road vs. on rail, as examples) but I stand against the whole "laws of physics don't apply in NY" mentality. If there's good strategy and good will, a night-bus operation can occur in NY as in other major cities around the world. A limited example was seen during Covid, though that was rushed together because of the situation. In more tranquil times, a design from scratch can take place that really helps people get around.

None of the above, however, takes into account if it's worth it to shut the subway system down overnight though. I understand even during Covid the trains just kept running without passengers? That's ok but there would have to be demonstrable benefits to the overnight shutdown, including less service diversions during the day, possibly lower cost of operations (can some station/tunnel lights be turned off at night?), etc.

Another way of putting it is if it turns out that by the time the shutdown procedures are complete it's practically time to reopen, then eh. . .

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Nov 21 09:06:56 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 21:37:29 2023.

Irregardless of what you might say, I stand my ground. :(

Try regardless of what you might say, I stand my ground. :)

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 21 11:02:33 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 20 20:53:56 2023.

That’s because dictionaries are “descriptive” and will give commonly used definitions even when these definitions are wrong.

After all, if you don’t understand the sense a word is used in and need to look it up, it would make sense that the dictionary has the definition of the sense it was used in instead of leaving the reader confused. A good dictionary should include a note on usage.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 21 11:03:08 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 21 01:08:50 2023.

Gigabit? That’s a word.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 21 11:08:59 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 20 20:45:06 2023.

Ironically the city was more “woke” in the literal sense.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 21 11:12:22 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 20 20:45:06 2023.

Always a stupid political comment.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 21 11:16:04 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 20:38:09 2023.

MNRR used to run overnight like LIRR. They cut those trains in the 70s supposedly because of crime and to have an excuse to kick the homeless out. About 10 years ago they restored service from 1 am to 2 am because the demand was there.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 21 11:44:50 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 21 11:12:22 2023.

How was that in any way political?

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 21 12:18:56 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 20 20:45:06 2023.

I have no idea what you're talking about.



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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by zac on Tue Nov 21 12:27:53 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 20:38:09 2023.

When I was there in the 80s London pubs would close at 11 and the tube ended at 12, or something like that. The bell for last call would sound and everybody had one last ale and the tube would be packed after that.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 21 13:20:32 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by zac on Tue Nov 21 12:27:53 2023.

Still mostly the case when I was there in 2018. Public Houses (pubs) are allowed to apply to stay open later but most don’t. But I think that bars and clubs can stay open later. Still it ends up that most of London at 1130pm looks more like NYC at 2 or 3am.

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Re: A few pics

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Nov 21 13:24:06 2023, in response to Re: A few pics, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 20 02:47:57 2023.

Unfortunately you are correct.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by zac on Tue Nov 21 14:18:41 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 18 18:12:05 2023.

I was there over the summer but never stayed out that late. I'm an old fart now.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 21 19:11:48 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by zac on Tue Nov 21 14:18:41 2023.

Yeah, I get it. 11 pm is a late night for me these days. 😂

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 21 21:25:03 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 21 12:18:56 2023.

NYC before the politicians in charge decimated the city economically by imposing business and office shutdowns, coupled with unchecked destruction and rioting. The once-unmatched NYC culture is a shell of it's former self

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Re: A few pics

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Nov 22 08:09:36 2023, in response to Re: A few pics, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Nov 20 18:50:00 2023.

Yeah, if you squint your eyes that half corrugated siding could be reminiscent of R/38's.

Do you always squint your eyes?

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Re: A few pics

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Nov 22 08:59:30 2023, in response to Re: A few pics, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Nov 22 08:09:36 2023.

DOESN`T EVERYBODY?


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Re: A few pics

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Nov 22 11:02:15 2023, in response to Re: A few pics, posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Nov 22 08:59:30 2023.

I blink a lot.

I only squint when peeking in windows or at women's beach volley ball.

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Re: A few pics

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 22 11:14:34 2023, in response to Re: A few pics, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 18 15:29:34 2023.

NICE !

Bill M.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Nov 22 12:06:10 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 20 14:27:33 2023.

I guess you haven't paid attention to what times of day WMATA has added service lately...

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 22 13:14:47 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 21 11:03:08 2023.

Jigga what?

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Nov 22 14:09:43 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 21 11:44:50 2023.

Political like this:

“NYC before the *politicians in charge* decimated the city economically by imposing business and office shutdowns, coupled with unchecked destruction and rioting. The once-unmatched NYC culture is a shell of its former self.”

BTW, have you noticed the lockdowns are long gone, having been a temporary emergency response to a worldwide pandemic? Let it go already with the lockdowns, so tiresome.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 22 16:11:16 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 21 21:25:03 2023.

LOL. The traffic jams at 4:30 AM are not related to culture. They're related to bars, and always have been.



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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 22 16:55:08 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Nov 22 14:09:43 2023.

What he stated was a fact.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 22 19:11:36 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Nov 22 14:09:43 2023.

Try and keep up. WFH is a direct result from the "scamdemic", thus leaving the office buildings mostly empty, thus forcing many businesses on the street who depended on the workers, to go out of business. Downtown Manhattan on a weekday looks like ot used to on Sunday mornings, with most of the people not there.

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Re: 24-hr service (Re: My LA Metro rides today)

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Nov 22 19:31:40 2023, in response to Re: 24-hr service (Re: My LA Metro rides today), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 20 15:53:11 2023.

true. haven't visited DC in a while. I have a bitter memory of arriving Union Station off the Night Owl on a Sat morning, then having to wait over a hour and a half for WMATA tp deign to open.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 22 21:11:40 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 22 16:55:08 2023.

No, it was an opinion.



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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 01:08:37 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 22 21:11:40 2023.

Take a look around.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by randyo on Thu Nov 23 05:42:00 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 21 11:16:04 2023.

I don't recall MNRR running overnight even back in the NY Central days. If I remember the last train to lv GCT was a Harlem Div train that left around 130AM.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 23 10:31:41 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 01:08:37 2023.

I see packed bars. I see heavy traffic at night. Not on Thanksgiving Day, of course.



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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Nov 23 10:42:04 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 20 17:21:19 2023.

What to do when you missed the last train. . .

I like the creative ideas with the all-night events.

But anyway for NYC if this ever happened I think there would be a night-bus operation to replace. A practical question would be if a night-bus map, well-designed (itself a lot to ask for nowadays), could allow partial or full closure of the subway system to such an extent that the subway could benefit from said shutdown. How much of a difference is there at 3a.m. between the subway system as it is now and just having buses -- maybe even more than 3 per hour per route -- running up/down the avenues in Midtown, and then leaving the CBD and making stops every half mile or so along major avenues in the outer boroughs?

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Nov 23 10:59:19 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 22 19:11:36 2023.

I guess you haven’t been to Manhattan in a while. You need to get out more.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Nov 23 10:59:55 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 23 10:31:41 2023.

I agree. Manhattan is hopping.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 11:10:36 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 23 10:31:41 2023.

Not like pre-February 2020.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 11:11:09 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Italianstallion on Thu Nov 23 10:59:55 2023.

Not like pre-February 2020

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 11:13:19 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by Italianstallion on Thu Nov 23 10:59:19 2023.

I was literally there on Monday. Last Wednesday as well. The numbers aren't like pre-February 2020 and law changes.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 23 11:50:20 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 11:13:19 2023.

You made your wokeness comment in direct response to my comment about traffic jams at 4:30 AM. Have you actually kept track and determined that traffic in areas with bars is lighter now at that time?


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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 23 11:50:45 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 11:10:36 2023.

Yes, like then.


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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 22:40:13 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 23 11:50:20 2023.

Yes.

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 22:40:37 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 23 11:50:45 2023.

Traffic is lighter now

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Italianstallion on Fri Nov 24 15:47:48 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 22:40:13 2023.

lol

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Re: My LA Metro rides today

Posted by Italianstallion on Fri Nov 24 15:48:17 2023, in response to Re: My LA Metro rides today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 23 11:11:09 2023.

Who said it was and why would you expect it to be?

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