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Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022

Bloody scene in the subway station. 3 to 5 people shot. (D)(N(R) service delay or suspended in Brooklyn

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:56:36 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

NYPD, EMS , Fire on scene at 36 St

NYPD on scene at 25 St to try to catch prep

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Pic inside Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:59:42 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:56:36 2022.

Photo: https://mobile.twitter.com/CarbMeCrazy/status/1513860831322284033

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Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 09:27:55 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

Most people got shot at 36 St.

One at 25 St.

Active searching for suspect along 4th Ave line

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 09:30:13 2022, in response to Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 09:27:55 2022.

They should ban guns in the subway

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 09:33:48 2022, in response to Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 09:27:55 2022.

Apparently it was more than a shooting as several undecorated devices have also been found at the scene

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Tue Apr 12 09:34:31 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 09:30:13 2022.

unless you have a mask on

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 09:38:47 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 09:33:48 2022.

Bomb squad call

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 09:39:49 2022, in response to Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 09:27:55 2022.

At least one person is critical.
No suspects caught.

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 09:41:30 2022, in response to Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 09:27:55 2022.

13 confirmed injured

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Apr 12 09:49:41 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 09:39:49 2022.

only one person? man, for brooklyn that's nothing to brag about

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Now 13 to Hospitals ATF responding

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Tue Apr 12 10:18:41 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

Thirteen people have been transported to area hospitals after a shooting at a Brooklyn subway station, the New York City Fire Department told CNN.

Earlier, sources said that five people have been shot.

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 12 10:18:42 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by ntrainride on Tue Apr 12 09:49:41 2022.

Hmm! Coincidence, right after Biden's anti-gun speech???



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Re: Now 13 to Hospitals ATF responding

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 10:21:09 2022, in response to Now 13 to Hospitals ATF responding, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Tue Apr 12 10:18:41 2022.

They don't say if the additional 8 are due to gun shot wounds.
Shooter had gas mask, orange vest, 5'5", 180 lbs.

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Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 10:39:28 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

Given the pics I've seen on Twitter with it being mostly Asians and that station being not too far from Brooklyn's Chinatown, you have to wonder if this is going to be proven to be a hate crime. Obviously, it's too early to tell, but it would not surprise me if it was.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Apr 12 10:42:52 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

Any Jews or Asians involved? Those are the flavors of the day.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 10:43:19 2022, in response to Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 10:39:28 2022.

We don't know the ethnicity of the shooter. Criteria for "hate crime" is a high bar to achieve.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 10:45:03 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 10:43:19 2022.

That's just based on what I have seen from the pictures:

It could easily be a coincidence, but given who it seems the victims are, it could eventually be proven to be.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Apr 12 10:55:23 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

One cell phone video seems to show that the shooting was on the train. When the doors opened people, including the wounded, scrambled out of the train car and billows if smoke also came out from the train car.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 11:03:09 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Apr 12 10:55:23 2022.

"Greenish smoke spewed from the subway doors when the northbound N train stopped at the platform in Sunset Park. "

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by The Silence on Tue Apr 12 11:06:12 2022, in response to Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 10:39:28 2022.

Did you have to fucking do this NOW?

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Re: NYCDOE ordered all schools in area..

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Tue Apr 12 11:13:37 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

NYC Dept. of Education has ordered all schools in the area to emergency response of "Shelter In".

Shelter-in
There is a Public Address announcement made two times:
Attention. This is a shelter-in. Secure the exit doors
.
The Shelter-In directive stays in effect until it is ended by a Public Address announcement The Shelter-In has been lifted

Students are trained to:
Remain inside the building
Conduct business as usual
Respond to specific staff directions

Teachers are trained to:
Be more aware of their surroundings
Conduct business as usual

BRT members, floor wardens, and Shelter- In staff will secure all exits and report to specific post assignments

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by jabrams on Tue Apr 12 11:23:39 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 11:03:09 2022.

First it was reported as an R train, and if the shooting started at 25 and then at 36th, that would make it a Brooklyn bound train (southbound), video shows a large crowd leaving the train considering it would be a reverse commute.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 11:26:26 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by jabrams on Tue Apr 12 11:23:39 2022.

IDK. Maybe he took an R train south, then an N train north.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 12 11:27:36 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Apr 12 10:42:52 2022.

Jews are the flavor of the decimillennium (whatever you call a 10,000 year period).

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R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 11:42:02 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

Bloody mess

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 11:47:04 2022, in response to R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 11:42:02 2022.

The incident train was an R train which got the passengers to safety and held at 25th St. for investigation.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 11:47:11 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 10:43:19 2022.

Ethnicity no but he has been identified as being a black male.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 11:51:40 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Apr 12 10:42:52 2022.

I'm not too familiar with the ethnic backround of that neighborhood. Is that area far from heavily Jewish Boro Park?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 11:57:45 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 11:51:40 2022.

Leave us not get so wrapped up in ethnicity of the riders. After all we are talking about a train that has come through several diversified neighborhoods en route to several other diverse ethnic neighborhoods. If the target were persons of one particular ethnicity, then the people on the platform might be more ethnically homogeneous.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 11:59:53 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 11:47:04 2022.

This might make the MTA seriously consider unlocking the end doors on those cars. I can just imagine some nut wearing a gas mask, shooting anybody nearby and being trapped in the a crowded car.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Apr 12 12:08:38 2022, in response to R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 11:42:02 2022.

Ch. 7 news stated car #5551.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Apr 12 12:11:05 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Apr 12 12:08:38 2022.

Does the R still use any R46s? I thought it was fully Jamaica yard, which is all NTTs?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Apr 12 12:14:07 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by jabrams on Tue Apr 12 11:23:39 2022.

First it was reported as an R train, and if the shooting started at 25 and then at 36th, that would make it a Brooklyn bound train (southbound), video shows a large crowd leaving the train considering it would be a reverse commute.

A video by Ch. 7 news shown R-160 (R) train at 36th St. with possible shooting victim on the floor.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Apr 12 12:15:56 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Apr 12 12:11:05 2022.

Does the R still use any R46s? I thought it was fully Jamaica yard, which is all NTTs?

The (R) uses R-160's because QBL is going CBTC.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 12:19:16 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 11:59:53 2022.

than.. you don't respond to an unsafe situation by creating an even more unsafe condition.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 12:22:53 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 11:59:53 2022.

The vagrants walk thru cars all the time. Given the offset of 75' cars on curves, they would be crushed to death.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 12:25:58 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 12:19:16 2022.

Well, I dont know how much more "unsafe" a situation could be than being trapped in a smoke filled subway/an active shooter car not knowing if the next one shot might be me or a family member.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 12:27:18 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 11:47:11 2022.

Ah!

I didn't know that obviously when I wrote that.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 12:28:48 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 11:47:04 2022.

No, the train at 36th St was (N) train R46. Smoke bomb, shooting, stampede, bloody mess.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Apr 12 12:29:36 2022, in response to Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 10:39:28 2022.

Shut up

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 12:30:13 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by The Silence on Tue Apr 12 11:06:12 2022.

That was based on the information and the pictures I had seen:

Sadly, Asians continue to be victims of hate crimes by many, especially if they blame such for the virus (which of course Asians here had ZERO to do with), even more so if they (or a family member) lost their job as a direct result of the virus and were severely impacted negatively by that.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 12:30:39 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 12:25:58 2022.

Well this type of incident happens very few years. Start letting people walk between cars and they will be falling between cars, regularly. Trust me. I have crossed between cars while responding to incidents in the past. You do not to be caught between cars on a moderate curve.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 12:31:59 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 12:27:18 2022.

Actually a described as a 5'5" tall black male.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 12:33:42 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 12:27:18 2022.

"Sewell described the suspect as Black male with a heavy build, wearing a green construction-type vest with a hooded gray sweatshirt."

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Brooklynbus on Tue Apr 12 12:36:30 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 12:30:39 2022.

I never had a problem when it was allowed and everyone was doing it regularly as long as I was always holding on.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 12:38:08 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 12:25:58 2022.

It is a matter of weighing risks.

On Amtrak and NJT, I've seen people literally stand on the plates between cars entering NYP while zig-zagging over sharp switches into the station. There's diaphragms, but the offset between cars can be so the gangway is down to a foot in width, and they get that way very quickly.

People are stupid. On a subway train, they'd be falling out all the time.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 12:43:39 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Brooklynbus on Tue Apr 12 12:36:30 2022.

Then you need to ask yourself why did the MTA end the practice? We know why. You were lucky.

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Video at the station Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 12:51:45 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kristofferkumm/status/1513883003453333513

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 13:18:45 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 11:47:04 2022.

Apologies. Please ignore my above post. I was relying on outdated information.

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