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Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005

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I've visited the Eastern European cities of Budapest and Bratislava over the past two weeks and both have interesting transit systems. First off, the Budapest cog railway. This poorly-used yet interesting operation runs every 20 minutes on Mondays to Fridays, but either every 15 or 12 (during the summer) minutes on weekends, from the terminus at Városmajor to the upper terminal at Széchenyi-Hegy. It's single-track with two or three stations having passing loops, and two platforms. Two-car sets of very squat vehicles are used.

Car #56 arriving at Városmajor....
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Car #66 approaching Svábhegy....
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Car #53 at the upper terminal, Széchenyi-Hegy....
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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Oct 23 10:32:20 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005.

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nice pix. I was in Budapest in 2003 but never took this thing. Is it a commuter service?

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:49:17 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by SMAZ on Sun Oct 23 10:32:20 2005.

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It's just a standard part of their public transport network. Day tickets and the like are valid on it, and it runs from around 0500 'til about 2300 although frequency is only every hour late at night. It's very slow, and only runs every 20 min during the rush - I would think most commuters will use the buses that parallel the route instead.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Oct 23 11:58:12 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005.

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What type of cog rail is that? From the pictures, it almost looks like it's using the Locher system but that is only supposed to be used on the Mount Pilatus Railway in Switzerland. Any photos of switches?

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 23 13:14:26 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005.

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It looks very top heavy.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 18:30:11 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005.

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nice photos

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Oct 23 23:33:39 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005.

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Very nice pictures.

The cars' paint scheme reminds me of the MBTA Red Line 01500/01600/01700 cars.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 24 15:11:29 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005.

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Nice system, even though it's only 2.3 miles long. Steepest grade is 11 percent; that's impressive.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Oct 24 17:11:02 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 24 15:11:29 2005.

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Well how steep is the grade on Jacobs Ladder?(Mount Washington Cog Railway)

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 24 17:17:51 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Oct 24 17:11:02 2005.

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37.41 percent. That's the second steepest grade on a cog line, too—steepest is the Mount Pilatus Cog Railway in Lucerne, Switzerland, with a ruling grade of about 48 percent (uses Locher rack system).

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Deaks on Tue Oct 25 11:06:09 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Oct 23 11:58:12 2005.

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I don't really take a great deal of interest in infrastructure, so sorry - no pics of anything other than the trains themselves. If it helps, there is a pinion-type cog rail between the two running rails.

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Photos: Budapest Trams

Posted by Deaks on Tue Oct 25 11:20:13 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Sun Oct 23 10:08:43 2005.

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Thanks for the comment about the Budapest cog railway - here's a few of the large fleet of trams they have running there....

Ganz articulated tram at the Margit híd budai hídfő terminal of route 17....
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Second-hand ex Hannover Duwag specimen, near the Mexicoi Ut terminal....
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Tatra T5C5 car #4114 near Moszkva tér....
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Photos: Two Golden Oldie Budapest Trams

Posted by Deaks on Tue Oct 25 11:25:37 2005, in response to Photos: Budapest Trams, posted by Deaks on Tue Oct 25 11:20:13 2005.

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The Ganz UV-type cars date from between 1956 and 1965, with the middle trailers being even older than this. They're still the dominant type on several routes and are museum-esque in their charm.

1959-built car 3378 leaving Batthyany ter on route 19....
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3469 was built in the early 1960s, leaving Boraros ter....
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Some shots of the Budapest Metro and its communist-era cars coming when I get round to it.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Oct 26 00:15:20 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Deaks on Tue Oct 25 11:06:09 2005.

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I've looked at other sites featuring the line and came to a conclusion that it is a Strub cog rail. Single wide pinion-type rail.

Abt would have more than two narrow cog rails, Riggenbach a ladder like cog rail and Locher, as I said before is unique to Mount Pilatus.

I also found out that the cars are Swiss-made, not much of a surprise there.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 26 01:15:22 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Oct 26 00:15:20 2005.

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One of the most interesting cog railways is right here in the states, on Mount Washington, New Hampshire. This page describes this wonderous little railway and goes into details on how it all works ...

http://www.cog-railway.com/indexa.htm

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Oct 26 10:54:33 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 26 01:15:22 2005.

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I'm aware of its existance, although I've never been there. Someone ought to update that top page though...

Last Update was 10/21/02

Fortunately, the schedule page seems to be up to date.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 26 20:22:42 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Oct 26 10:54:33 2005.

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Heh. You/ve GOT to do it ... I've done it a few times, even rode once where it derailed. Knowing the engineering on it all, I was amused and calmed the geese. Had the time of my life busting chops on the crew. When we got back down, crew was busting my chops ... "we almost all got killed and HE *liked* it!" :)

It's INCREDIBLY safe. Only advice I offer is bring overclothing for the trip - they burn messy coal and the soot gets all over you if you sit by the locomotive in the car. THAT was the best part as far as I was concerned. Nothing more thrilling than hissing and chugging when I don't have to light the damned fire. (grin)

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 27 08:20:13 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Oct 26 10:54:33 2005.

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If you're ever in Colorado, check out the Pikes Peak - Manitou Springs cog railway. See if you don't get short of breath on the summit of Pikes Peak. It's over 14,000 feet above sea level.

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Fytton on Thu Oct 27 11:22:33 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 27 08:20:13 2005.

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I have ridden Mount Washington, Pikes Peak, the Budapest one, and the Snowdon Mountain Railway (another steam one) in the UK. I am a very fortunate railfan!

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Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway

Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Oct 28 10:12:02 2005, in response to Re: Photos: Budapest Cog Railway, posted by Fytton on Thu Oct 27 11:22:33 2005.

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Of the four, I've only done Snowdon but I've been on several ones in the Alps.

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