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Photo GCt the first one |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:44:55 2020 Always a Grand terminal
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:50:05 2020, in response to Photo GCt the first one, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:44:55 2020. Which entrance is for the Clam Bar? |
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza on Fri Jul 31 15:40:36 2020, in response to Photo GCt the first one, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:44:55 2020. Technically, this was the Grand Central Depot, not Terminal. |
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Re: Photo GCT the first one (aka GCD) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 31 17:02:00 2020, in response to Photo GCt the first one, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:44:55 2020. Now if the city was not so draconian when it came to regulating steam locomotion, that station and the lines feeding it could've been located at the Battery instead. Imagine how useful that would have been . . . ? (42nd Street was the mandated southern limit.) |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 31 17:09:57 2020, in response to Photo GCt the first one, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:44:55 2020. Everyone was so formally dressed then. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jul 31 17:19:37 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 31 17:09:57 2020. yes,no subchat riff raff back then. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Aug 1 09:38:07 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Fri Jul 31 15:40:36 2020. ,B. Trains did not TERMINATE THERE? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Aug 1 09:44:14 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jul 31 17:19:37 2020. Then how do YOU account for all of the prairie apples on the cobblestone street? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 1 10:56:30 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCT the first one (aka GCD), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 31 17:02:00 2020. It was anticipated that the city would expand northward so that in time, the 42nd st area would be the hub of transportation and growth. Commodore V. was right on the money with that call |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 11:31:32 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCT the first one (aka GCD), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 1 10:56:30 2020. But it is not necessarily so. The location was mandated by the city. A forced transfer was created. Not to mention the handicap of forcing other railroads to stay on the wrong side of the Hudson and/or East River when they could have possibly consolidated operations in locations on the island across from where their lines were located in NJ/LI. Having the Grand Central terminus further south on the island would not have precluded the development further north of there. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 1 16:51:31 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Aug 1 09:38:07 2020. The original ancestor to the NYCRR went farther down to around 34 St or so. The former trolley tunnel now used by autos was originally used by RR trains. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 17:23:59 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 1 16:51:31 2020. One of the ancestors, the New York & Harlem River RR. |
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Posted by asgard on Sat Aug 1 19:32:45 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 17:23:59 2020. New York and Harlem. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 21:39:49 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by asgard on Sat Aug 1 19:32:45 2020. That was one of its names, sometimes with the misspelling of "Harlaem". (The Dutch spelling is "Haarlem".) |
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Posted by George Foelschow on Sun Aug 2 13:13:00 2020, in response to Photo GCt the first one, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:44:55 2020. What accounts for the triple "R.R.R." initials in the "N.Y. Central & Hudson R.R.R." sign so prominently displayed? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 2 13:14:48 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCt the first one, posted by George Foelschow on Sun Aug 2 13:13:00 2020. First R stands for "River", IINM. |
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Posted by George Foelschow on Sun Aug 2 13:18:55 2020, in response to Photo GCt the first one, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jul 31 11:44:55 2020. Thanks. That makes sense. |
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Posted by Asgard on Sun Aug 2 14:19:00 2020, in response to Re: Photo GCT the first one (GCD), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 2 13:14:48 2020. Right. The original line up the west side of Manhattan and up the Hudson was the Hudson River Railroad. Cornelius Vanderbilt acquired it, and the original New York Central, which was an east-west line from Albany to (I think) Buffalo, and they were combined as the New York Central and Hudson River.That name survived into the early 20th century, when it became simply New York Central. |
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