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VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017

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R10 3184 is almost ready for the upcoming July 30 Nostalgia Trip!

Tickets available here: http://www.nytransitmuseum.org/program/coneyisland/



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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by collision post on Fri Jul 21 17:25:41 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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###It's Alive!!! What a crew at 207th Street!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by BMRR on Fri Jul 21 17:41:19 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Thank you Mr.DJ for the tour!! great to see this!!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by ren on Fri Jul 21 17:50:09 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Thanks DJ! Any news on 3189?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Lord Vader on Fri Jul 21 17:51:52 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Awesome

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 21 18:27:14 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Really great video and this is really great news. I will be there. I hope that this is the leading car. Were parts from other cars used to get this one into operating condition?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by chud1 on Fri Jul 21 18:27:29 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this video of da r-10.
my favorite car along with da r 1/9.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 21 19:46:25 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Like.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 21 21:00:15 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by collision post on Fri Jul 21 17:25:41 2017.

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I can hear the rolling thunder!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 21 21:00:57 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by chud1 on Fri Jul 21 18:27:29 2017.

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I HOPE it sports A signs at some point.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Fri Jul 21 21:31:43 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Has to be on the ToMM, because it's a SMEE unit, not AMUE like 1575 is. Will it be allowed to lead?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 21 23:50:54 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Fri Jul 21 21:31:43 2017.

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It'll probably be at one of the points because of its trigger boxes. 8013 may lead the other end for the same reason.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 22 08:52:37 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jul 22 09:47:01 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Speechless, words fail me!
I had that thrill run up and down my leg!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jul 22 11:50:39 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by ren on Fri Jul 21 17:50:09 2017.

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First...YES!!! R-10 #3184 is alive!!!

Oh, I will be on the trip now, since that car will be running as I just purchased a ticket online (I am a member with the TM).

Second...#3189 is still outside the barn at 207th Street Yard, coupled to the SBK Locomotive, R-1 #103 and IRT WFLV #5655. and as of Friday 7/21/2017.

-William A. Padron
{"3174"]

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jul 22 11:53:45 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 21 23:50:54 2017.

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I had seen R-16 #6387 at the 207th Street Yard this past Friday 7/21/2017, so whether or not R-10 #3184 is unknown at this time if it will be at the lead at the other end. Will see!!!

-William A. Padron
["a.c.f."]


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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jul 22 11:55:08 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Excellent Video!!! Thanks for the sharing!

The R-10...it's alive!!!

-William A. Padron
["Wash.Hts.-207th St."]


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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 22 15:33:55 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jul 22 11:53:45 2017.

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Hopefully we can out once and for all just how much of a delay there will be with 3184's doors compared with the rest of the SMEEs.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 22 15:34:35 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jul 22 11:55:08 2017.

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Its doors all open and close! You can even hear the load sensing valve!!!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by kp5308 on Sat Jul 22 15:51:26 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Very cool....thanks!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 22 16:25:43 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 22 15:34:35 2017.

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On the older SMEEs, it was called the variable load valve and all cars up to the R-32s had them. Starting with the R-38s, which had the upgraded version of the SMEE called by WABCO RT-2, the cars had a load sensor which no longer emitted the puff of air when the doors closed.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 22 16:42:46 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 22 16:25:43 2017.

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No matter what you call it, it has a distinct sound all its own.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by GTrainExpress on Sat Jul 22 17:55:02 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by collision post on Fri Jul 21 17:25:41 2017.

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I just bought a ticket. Thank god it's on the 30th and not the 29th. My niece's birthday is the day before the trip.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Jul 22 20:19:19 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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Beautiful!!!! Nice to see one of these guys alive again!

Jimmymc25

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 22 22:09:06 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Jul 22 20:19:19 2017.

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A pity more of them weren't saved.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by gbs on Sun Jul 23 02:31:07 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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How hard would it be to install authentic-looking end-car scroll signs? The colored bullets and Helvetica mixed-case signs are all wrong for these cars.



And can we wish for the rattan seats (or the red leatherette replacements), rather than the incredibly uncomfortable and inauthentic plastic ones?





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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 23 06:53:46 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by gbs on Sun Jul 23 02:31:07 2017.

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Be thankful that are at least running. It's short notice to make those kind of changes with the nostalgia trip only a week away.

Repainting the car isn't much of a chore, but replicating those velon covered seats would be time consuming and costly.

Bill Newkirk



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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 23 07:53:16 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by gbs on Sun Jul 23 02:31:07 2017.

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The bullet and lower-case roll signs were installed during the final GOH the R-10 cars got in the mid-80s, and they spent half their careers with the plastic seats.

It might not be "as delivered" but these items do represent their appearance as it was during a revenue service portion of their careers.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jul 23 08:17:13 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 23 06:53:46 2017.

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Be thankful for what they have done to it so far. :)

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 23 08:26:29 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jul 23 08:17:13 2017.

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Agreed. While I'd love to see 3184 or 3189 in the racing stripe scheme (my all-time favorite), I'm just thankful that at least 3184 will be roadworthy again.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by chud1 on Sun Jul 23 08:31:09 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by gbs on Sun Jul 23 02:31:07 2017.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these pictures.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Westcode44 on Sun Jul 23 08:42:08 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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That's got an A3 compressor motor,,but that'll do.

WE-44



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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by MTA T on Sun Jul 23 15:21:54 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 22 22:09:06 2017.

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There's 3189 but that's in worse condition.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 23 15:34:10 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by gbs on Sun Jul 23 02:31:07 2017.

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I hope they do a better job with the striping on the floor than they did with 1575. The striping and the diamond should be orange, not bright yellow.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 23 17:34:31 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by MTA T on Sun Jul 23 15:21:54 2017.

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By "more," I meant five or six. Enough to put together a solid train, signed as an A (what else?) and turn it loose up CPW.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 23 18:07:16 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 23 17:34:31 2017.

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Wouldn't do much good unless you remove all the timers.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 23 19:55:49 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 23 18:07:16 2017.

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Yeah, tell me about it.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jul 23 21:15:33 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 22 22:09:06 2017.

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They might have been happy to see them go at the time and didn't feel particularly nostalgic about them, no?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Caz on Sun Jul 23 22:00:17 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Westcode44 on Sun Jul 23 08:42:08 2017.

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I remember when they painted the car, they took out the NYAB RSU compressor and replaced it with a spare A-3/2-CY compressor unit off an R22. It will be slightly different with the sounds. The original R-10 compressor motors sat lower on the cradle and slower rpms, making r10s-r15s sound different from r16s-r36s, which were faster motors and sat at level on the cradle, with the compressor pump.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 24 07:10:04 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Jul 21 17:18:05 2017.

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WOW!!! Wish I could be there...

Have fun, guys!!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Jul 24 14:08:56 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 23 06:53:46 2017.

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Its restoration was turned around really quickly!

--Mark

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jul 24 15:02:16 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Jul 24 14:08:56 2017.

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Its restoration was turned around really quickly!

I wouldn't call it a restoration per se. More like firing 3184 up and seeing that all systems are working.

A real restoration would entail repainting, original curtain roll signs etc.

That could happen, but first things first. Let's see how she runs MU with the other SMEE's and is truly road worthy.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 24 15:09:13 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jul 24 15:02:16 2017.

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I agree. It's enough for now that an actual, operable R-10 exists for our benefit.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 24 18:53:51 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 24 07:10:04 2017.

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Me too.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 24 18:54:35 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Caz on Sun Jul 23 22:00:17 2017.

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The R-10 compressors had a sound all their own.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 24 18:56:45 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jul 23 21:15:33 2017.

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They may have been dogs to some of those who operated them, but for us buffs, they ruled the Abbott with an iron fist and provided many a joyride up CPW. The best decision made by far by the BoT was assigning them to the Abbott. They were tailor-made for that line.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jul 24 19:18:20 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 24 15:09:13 2017.

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I agree. It's enough for now that an actual, operable R-10 exists for our benefit.

Yep, it's baby steps.

Then we can improve on that.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 25 05:26:59 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jul 24 19:18:20 2017.

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Clone it!:)

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by randyo on Tue Jul 25 13:36:32 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 24 18:56:45 2017.

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I can’t say for certain, but I would suspect that the popularity at the time of the Billy Strayhorn/Duke Ellington tune “Take the A Train” popularized the line to the point that the B of T felt that it was the showcase line of the NYCTS or at least the IND so it was the best place to assign its newest cars. As far as the opinions of those who operated them, I thought they were the best SMEEs around until the R-32s came along although neither were as much fun to operate as the various prewar equipment like the R-9s.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jul 25 13:50:39 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 3184 Prepared for the July 30 Nostalgia Trip, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 23 08:26:29 2017.

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Even though the Transit Museum had selected R-10 car #2959 for their collection, and which eventually went to the scrap line, no one made the real push or effort (make that no loud noise) in convincing MTA NYCT to set aside any amount of R-10's for a museum train. During the Kiley-Gunn administration, the agency was not interesting in preserving and/or maintain any or more retired cars into the TM's collection.

Lots of lament came much later after the fact. It even did not help matters that even most of the remaining R-10's, including those graffitied and of the non-GOH units, were being sent in a hell bent way down to Cross Harbor in Brooklyn, then out via car float to New Jersey, and for its final disposal with their car bodies ready for scrap.

In other words, there was just no real voice to save any more R-10's, and thus no campaign to get a museum train. Thus, they were doomed for their ultimate end. And so it goes...

-William A. Padron
["R-10's running: 1948-1989"]


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