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Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 11 13:49:41 2017

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Don't know the year, but the old station building ought to give a clue as to the general era. Can't read the locomotive number.



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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Mar 11 14:11:05 2017, in response to Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 11 13:49:41 2017.

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nice

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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Mar 11 14:25:56 2017, in response to Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 11 13:49:41 2017.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/lf14515/29790945581/in/photostream/

Charles Warren picture : PRR GG1 4921 at Elizabeth, NJ, 1957

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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 11 14:40:47 2017, in response to Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Mar 11 14:25:56 2017.

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OK, thanks.

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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by chud1 on Sat Mar 11 15:31:28 2017, in response to Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 11 13:49:41 2017.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this picture.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Mar 11 19:47:27 2017, in response to Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 11 13:49:41 2017.

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Never saw a GG1 pic I didn't like.

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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Dave on Sat Mar 11 22:46:59 2017, in response to Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Mar 11 19:47:27 2017.

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IAWTP!

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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sat Mar 11 22:59:15 2017, in response to Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Mar 11 19:47:27 2017.

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+1

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Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 12 06:38:45 2017, in response to Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Mar 11 19:47:27 2017.

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Agree!

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[PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017, in response to Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Mar 11 19:47:27 2017.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Mar 12 10:16:22 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017.

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Oh my. It takes a lot to make me drool.

It just happened.

Sad to see the last pic how the owner didn't give her a cosmetic ovehaul after all these years.

And the 1/2 one w/o a #. Wow!

Many thanks for posting these Bill!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Westcode44 on Sun Mar 12 10:32:14 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017.

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Beautiful Bill Beautiful,,

WE-44

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 12 10:42:08 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017.

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Absolutely great pictures!!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Mar 12 11:18:40 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017.

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Stupid question I shall ask:

What is the steam coming from the two places in the second image?

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Express Rider on Sun Mar 12 11:35:26 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 12 10:42:08 2017.

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I totally agree!
Thanks for finding these Bill, and sharing!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Mar 12 11:45:31 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Mar 12 11:18:40 2017.

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the GG-1 had steam generator (oil fired) for heating cars.


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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Mar 12 11:53:06 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Mar 12 11:45:31 2017.

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http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/64358525681517955/filePointer/64358525734193594/fodoid/64358525734193586/imageType/LARGE/inlineImage/true/GG1cutaway.jpg

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 12 12:11:49 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Mar 12 11:18:40 2017.

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Steam heat for older non-HEP cars.

The original place steam-heated cars got their steam from was the boiler of a steam locomotive; the general practice was to send about 10 psi per car into the steam heat system. Electrics and diesels, when they came along, needed a boiler on board to keep the heat for the cars.

Sometimes things got reversed; for example, the car behind #909 here has a HEP generator on board, since the locomotive doesn't have one for those Amfleet I cars.



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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Mar 12 13:43:34 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 12 12:11:49 2017.

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Rode old and vintage cars that claimed to have steam heat or old "air conditioners", but never with it functioning.

Must've been nice in the winter versus the dry heating coils.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by HART BUS on Sun Mar 12 18:09:49 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017.

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Was the 4th picture from the bottom taken at the museum at Booton NJ ?

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:39:47 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Mar 12 10:16:22 2017.

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From railpictures.net

Used for a while as the Wilmington Shop switcher. This unit also saw service as a self-propelled snowmelter for wintertime clearing of switches, by means of a downward venting blower.



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MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:54:49 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:57:50 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Mar 12 11:45:31 2017.

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If this is the engineer, was there a "fireman" peering out the left side window, observing the tracks ahead ?



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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 12 19:05:18 2017, in response to MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:54:49 2017.

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Thanks for more.

This one (when I searched for it) says it's at Broad Street Station in Philly back in 1935.



This one is South Amboy.



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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 12 19:10:42 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 12 19:05:18 2017.

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Thanks for posting those!

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 19:41:19 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 12 19:05:18 2017.

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In the early 80's me and my friends would drive down to South Amboy to watch the engine change from the GG-1 to the E-8's. Fascinating operation.

When did Philly Broad St. close ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Mar 12 20:15:46 2017, in response to MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:54:49 2017.

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That's Raymond Loewy in the pic at the top!

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 12 20:20:38 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 19:41:19 2017.

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Last train departed on 04/07/1952 and the building was gone by 1953. Penn Center stands on the site now, and the place looks all the uglier for that.

I wonder what things would have been like if instead of the CCCT tunnel being built, the railroad was instead extended eastward onto the Reading from Broad Street Station on new elevated tracks.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by randyo on Sun Mar 12 20:48:52 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:57:50 2017.

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Yes.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by chuchubob on Mon Mar 13 08:17:33 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by HART BUS on Sun Mar 12 18:09:49 2017.

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Yes.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 13 09:43:42 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:39:47 2017.

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A true treasure trove!!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 13 09:45:51 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:57:50 2017.

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I caught myself leaning to the right, to get a better view of the tracks ahead.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 13 09:57:18 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Mar 12 13:43:34 2017.

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I can only recall one instance of being on a train pulled by a GG1.
I was drafted March 22nd, 1965. We boarded at Pennsylvania Station, NYC. We road in a Pullman Car that had births in the overhead luggage spot, and the lower birth was a combo of the seats below.
We changed loco's in Philly, made a stop in Wash. D.C. and continued to Columbia S.C. and directly into USA Army, Ft. Jackson, the next morning.
What an adventure!

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 13 12:40:17 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Mar 12 20:15:46 2017.

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Cool, I have his USPS stamps.

We need more designers of things today.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 13 12:51:42 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Mar 12 13:43:34 2017.

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I actually got to ride steam-heated cars in Ireland in the very late 1990s. The Cravens cars were steam-heated, and they got retired when they were about 43 years old (in 2006); Irish Rail was completely nuts to retire the Mark 3 cars at just 25 years old.

This fan trip video shows the preserved Cravens as they are now. They never wore that paint scheme when in service.



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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 13 13:02:06 2017, in response to MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:54:49 2017.

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OMG!

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 13 13:05:22 2017, in response to MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 18:54:49 2017.

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PS. Maybe if the E60s had a comparable wheel arrangement to the GG1, they would have been running up until the late 2000s and we never would have heard of the AEM-7.

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Mar 13 14:09:32 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 13 12:40:17 2017.

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we have, just they do not get famous till years later.
try for example http://vergarastudio.com/


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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Mar 13 14:11:44 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 13 13:05:22 2017.

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if my Aunt had balls she be my uncle ...


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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 13 14:20:27 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Mar 13 14:11:44 2017.

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No, she'd be your transgender aunt.

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 13 14:34:33 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 13 14:20:27 2017.

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pwn3d.

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Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Jackson Park B train on Mon Mar 13 15:27:03 2017, in response to Re: MORE ! [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 13 12:40:17 2017.

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We have many. Most actual marketers (calling themselves manufacturers although the production is mostly contracted out) spend a great deal on the "look and feel" of new products, but don't often tout the outside designers.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Mar 14 20:10:54 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Color photo of GG1 at Elizabeth NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 12 09:50:51 2017.

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Beautiful photos, my favorite locomotive EVER. Karl

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