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Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 20:24:48 2016

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What street would this be on?

Nice view through the porthole-shaped windshield, too.



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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 19 21:32:49 2016, in response to Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 20:24:48 2016.

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nice photo

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 22:01:30 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 19 21:32:49 2016.

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The rear cab ride perspective is a plus.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri May 20 07:00:26 2016, in response to Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 20:24:48 2016.

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What street would this be on?

A reverse image search bought me to this page. According to the map and the last comment posted (scroll the photo comments portion all the way down), it's Long Beach Boulevard, which was known as American Avenue when the photo was taken.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 20 08:32:45 2016, in response to Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 20:24:48 2016.

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You can see an LAMTA PCC streetcar in the background. That looks like narrow gauge trackage, yet PE cars ran on standard gauge track. No dual-gauge track in the photo. Those narrow-gauge PCC trucks wouldn't have worked on PE cars, would they>

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by The silence on Fri May 20 08:56:01 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 20 08:32:45 2016.

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I think that's a bus.

Looks like a Mack.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 20 09:11:09 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 20 08:32:45 2016.

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It isn't narrow gauge; look at the automobile width. PE's interurban cars, of the type that ran to San Bernardino, were large, perhaps even commuter-rail sized like the South Shore Line in Illinois/Indiana. Shared tracks with the LARy were dual gauge.



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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 20 09:26:43 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri May 20 07:00:26 2016.

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More people on FB stealing copyrighted photos. Not good.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 20 10:11:10 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 20 09:11:09 2016.

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A PE Blimp on dual gauge track could only be on 7th St, between Maple Av? and San Pedro St (shared with the LARy/LATL/LAMTA "R" and "S") or on San Pedro between 7th St and Olympic Blvd (shared with the S).

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 20 10:14:41 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 22:01:30 2016.

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Yep, and if the pic said it was the last run to the Rose Bowl, they were lying, as of course the Rose Bowl is in Padadena, not Long Beach, and PE rail service to Pasadena ended in 1951 (I don't know if the Blimps ever operated to Padadena, as they were assigned to the PE Southern District (Pasadena was in the Northern District, IIRC), of course there could have been a special service with a Blimp).

Lotta dumbasses on Facebook :(



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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 20 11:05:21 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 20 10:14:41 2016.

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The Railpictures page says it was on the day before the last run, too.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 20 15:49:01 2016, in response to Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 20:24:48 2016.

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How close is that that to the Gold Line?

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by chud1 on Fri May 20 17:37:15 2016, in response to Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 19 20:24:48 2016.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this picture.
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:).....

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric on Long Beach Boulevard, Long Beach CA, 12/31/1958

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 20 18:43:34 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri May 20 07:00:26 2016.

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Sorry for not thanking you for doing the reverse search earlier. Mr. West needs proper credit for his photo.



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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 20 20:20:38 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 20 09:11:09 2016.

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I stand corrected. Looks can be deceiving.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric on Long Beach Boulevard, Long Beach CA, 12/31/1958

Posted by randyo on Sat May 21 14:51:55 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric on Long Beach Boulevard, Long Beach CA, 12/31/1958, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 20 18:43:34 2016.

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Is that the route of the current LA Blue Line?

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric on Long Beach Boulevard, Long Beach CA, 12/31/1958

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 21 14:59:30 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric on Long Beach Boulevard, Long Beach CA, 12/31/1958, posted by randyo on Sat May 21 14:51:55 2016.

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Looks like it to me. The tracks of today are separated from traffic, albeit paved with concrete raised above the traffic lanes.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Easy on Sun May 22 00:37:46 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 20 15:49:01 2016.

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Not close. It's in long beach which is way south of LA and the gold lone is north and east of LA.

But on a different note the Pasadena/Azusa branch of the gold line will be rebranded the blue line after the downtown connector opens. Or perhaps just the A line.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by randyo on Sun May 22 18:11:39 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Easy on Sun May 22 00:37:46 2016.

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Then what will the existing Blue Line be changed to?

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 22 19:47:17 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by randyo on Sun May 22 18:11:39 2016.

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Blue Line, or A line. Just like he said.

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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun May 22 21:54:25 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 22 19:47:17 2016.

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The existing Blue Line will be extended north of its current 7th Street/Metro Center terminus via the Regional Connector to Little Tokyo, then via the current Gold Line to Azusa (and maybe eventually Montclair). The East L. A. segment of the Gold Line will be extended through the Regional Connector and then will operate over the current Expo Line to downtown Santa Monica. In review:

NOW:

Blue Line: 7th St/Metro Ctr to Long Beach
Gold Line: Azusa-Union Station-East L. A.
Expo Line: 7th St/Metro Ctr-Santa Monica

LATER:

Blue Line: Azusa-Long Beach via Union Station
Gold Line: East L. A.-Santa Monica



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Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958

Posted by randyo on Mon May 23 14:25:00 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Pacific Electric's last run to Rose Bowl, 1958, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun May 22 21:54:25 2016.

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OK.

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