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CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 24 21:35:56 2016  |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Mar 24 21:38:44 2016, in response to CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 24 21:35:56 2016. beautiful image, thank you for pposting |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Mar 24 21:48:55 2016, in response to CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 24 21:35:56 2016. I wonder how that Empire Builder compares with this Empire Builder... |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 24 21:49:42 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by 3-9 on Thu Mar 24 21:48:55 2016. Bite your tongue! |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Thu Mar 24 23:04:22 2016, in response to CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 24 21:35:56 2016. That train is sleeker and more integrated that what's running today. The locomotives and the cars match perfectly, as if they were a gift set.When a design is done truly right, it is right forever. But how did they ever platform that thing? |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Mar 24 23:08:05 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Mar 24 23:04:22 2016. They poured enough concrete. |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Thu Mar 24 23:39:12 2016, in response to CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 24 21:35:56 2016. So how does the front coupler not stick out past those cover panels? |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 25 02:07:02 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Mar 24 23:39:12 2016. some sort of hinge arrangement IINM. |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Fri Mar 25 16:00:02 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Mar 24 23:04:22 2016. An even better match west of Minneapolis, with orange and brown Great Northern F- units.Alan Follett |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 25 16:26:34 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Mar 24 23:04:22 2016. Many crack trains of the various RRs had trans of 20 cars more or less over the years. |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Mar 26 20:31:07 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Mar 24 23:04:22 2016. The locomotives and the cars match perfectly, as if they were a gift set.No, they really didn't. Not even close. The Es looked something like this:  And the train looked something like this:  To think, people complain about Amtrak having mismatched paint schemes. |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sat Mar 26 21:24:15 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by WillD on Sat Mar 26 20:31:07 2016. If not for Government regulation the Hill Lines would have been merged by this point & the your desired common paint scheme would have been achieved. Additionally Burlington would have needed to paint some passenger engines in a rendition of Northern Pacific colors to appease both the owning roads. Anyway CB&Q E units were used east of the Twin Cities to take advantage of their higher gear ratio. |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Sat Mar 26 21:51:36 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by WillD on Sat Mar 26 20:31:07 2016. The wonders of B&W photography ;-)But in a more substantial way, they did match. It would not be all that hard to roll the loco through the company paint shop if it was normally assigned to the train, that is if anyone cared. What DOES match is the profile of the train; the loco's sides and roof match right up to the train, so the assembly is one integrated piece. -------------- Contrast that with, say, an Amtrak Anteater (sorry, I don't know the proper name) hitched to the curved-side cars (Metroliners?). I looks like it's designed to make as much air drag and wind noise as possible at the locomotive to first car join, and then have speed brakes hanging off the sides. Trains of other than Metroliner cars may be as assemblage of different heights and styles, so again nothing matches. Yeah, there's reason for all the above, but it looks like cr-p, and at 100mph it adds a lotta drag. |
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Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951 |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Mar 27 09:11:42 2016, in response to Re: CB&Q E9As on Empire Builder train #49 through Lisle IL, July 1951, posted by Steamdriven on Sat Mar 26 21:51:36 2016. The E9s are both A units There is a cab facing the baggage car. |
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