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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by Jace on Wed Jan 13 10:04:03 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 13 08:56:08 2016.

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Ok Joe. You're right. This is all theoretical jibberish. Your contacts who got the gossip from Beech Grove are also right; the sky is in fact falling.

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by Jace on Wed Jan 13 10:46:09 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 13 09:23:03 2016.

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Here
you go Joe (see page 83):

Procurement of Locomotives and Railcars
Bi-Level Railcars – The First Article Inspections (FAI) are continuing for the bi-level railcars. Twenty-seven inspections out of the required 44 have been completed. During Pre-Testing for the Carshell Compression Test, several weld areas failed. The test was halted and an evaluation of the issues is being investigated. Due to
the carshell test issues, carshell production has been phased down until the issue is resolved. Fire Safety Tests on materials are 93 percent complete. Several Quality Assurance audits and Manufacturing Readiness Review meetings continue to take place at Nippon Sharyo.

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by HiLo on Wed Jan 13 11:46:43 2016, in response to R179 Delivery Date?, posted by Bzuck on Sat Jan 9 19:21:31 2016.

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Initial carbodies were scrapped due to welding issues. First car review (equivalent to pre-First Article Inspection) of the the new prototype car is taking place this month. Going by that, I would conservatively estimate end of this year for delivery of the prototype consist. However, depending on Bombardier's financial situation that forecast could be pushed out.

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 13 12:44:41 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by Jace on Wed Jan 13 10:46:09 2016.

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Yes of course - they'll be out any day now.
(Fire Safety Tests are the least of their problems).

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jan 13 13:08:28 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by milantram on Sun Jan 10 18:52:48 2016.

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It was mentioned that the car bodies were Computer designed. I did designs of other products, not train car bodies, but lacked the skills to do analysis testing.

If these failed test bodies were computer designed and tested, why did they fail?
Should we go back to the basics and not computer design/test things?

This whole thing scares me.

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 13 13:36:55 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jan 13 13:08:28 2016.

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The Boeing 777 was computer designed. It came out pretty well The Tacoma Narrows Bridge was done on paper. It didn't It is not whether it is computer or paper, it is the accuracy of the modeling and analysis which can be good or bad in either method.

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 13 14:31:28 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jan 13 09:59:37 2016.

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Brian:

I am 100% right:

1) The assembly line has stopped
2) Structural failures are massive
3) 2 rounds of layoffs eliminated this project's assembly line workers 4) Managers have been fired and sent back to Japan
5) FRA Oct 2017 deadline makes carrying out the order doubtful

I don't know what part of that you can't comprehend, or you simply want to chant "you're wrong" like 4 yer old brat.



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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jan 13 15:35:13 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 13 13:36:55 2016.

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Thanks!

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jan 13 16:22:35 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jan 13 15:35:13 2016.

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This is fantastic.

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 13 18:31:52 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 13 14:31:28 2016.

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That's an insult to 4 year olds. :)

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by Jace on Wed Jan 13 18:41:34 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by HiLo on Wed Jan 13 11:46:43 2016.

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Initial carbodies are still alive and well. They will be scrapped but only after the qualification tests are completed.

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 19 13:03:11 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 13 14:31:28 2016.

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I am 100% right
But those aren't the exact points being questioned. Why not respond directly to what you are being told?

I don't know what part of that you can't comprehend, or you simply want to chant "you're wrong" like 4 yer old brat.
Where did I chant "you're wrong" in this subthread, or even express a desire to want to? Why can't you address what I've written?

1. No. But even if you were right, which you're not, it doesn't change anything that I said, which is: "He's not in denial. He's telling you like it is. So the answer is you have no idea whether or not he has no contacts. So you shouldn't be saying anything like that. You're being way too cocky and it makes it very easy to believe him over you."

2. And how has that worked out for you in the past? Should I provide a link as an example of how you are sometimes wrong? Here's one for starters: Re: [VIDEO]: R46 on the G (1367042)

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?-how about R110 cars instead?

Posted by caine515 on Tue Jan 19 13:06:35 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?, posted by bzuck on Sun Jan 10 09:32:28 2016.

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I was wondering about the R110 cars instead to order. The cars that were used on the "A" and "C" line(#3001-#3009)..I know they were ordered based on technonlogy tests...but could more be ordered??

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?-how about R110 cars instead?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 19 13:10:57 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?-how about R110 cars instead?, posted by caine515 on Tue Jan 19 13:06:35 2016.

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I was wondering about the R110 cars instead to order. The cars that were used on the "A" and "C" line(#3001-#3009)..I know they were ordered based on technonlogy tests...but could more be ordered??
Why would they order cars that served as test-beds for subsequent orders that presumably included lessons learned and improvements over the R110 cars?

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Re: R179 Delivery Date?-how about R110 cars instead?

Posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 19 16:26:16 2016, in response to Re: R179 Delivery Date?-how about R110 cars instead?, posted by caine515 on Tue Jan 19 13:06:35 2016.

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I think that ship has sailed.

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