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Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 20 19:45:03 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by WillD on Sun Dec 20 16:22:33 2015. The letter T is already assigned to a mythical Second Avenue Local--you may buy the official tee shirt so printed from the Transit Museum. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Dec 20 20:24:12 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Sun Dec 20 15:39:48 2015. Ridership has skyrocketed there in recent years. Rush hour trains are packed Lex-style |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 21:36:52 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 19:32:43 2015. I placed the csv files into a database (Postgresql). That's what's needed to analyze the data in a meaningful way.Here are the SQL statements I used to generate the results. First, I need to figure out what the id's are of the individual stations. select distinct * from stops where sq_seq = 7 order by stop_name, stop_id This just reads the stops file and sorts it alphabetically by name. N.B. I've been keeping track of a lot of data. Each one has its own sequence index. The latest one is 7. This gives me the id for the Lex/59th station, which is what I'm interested in. It's R11S for the southbound direction. Next I want to figure out the headways and arrange them in ascending order. That way I can spot the exceptional values. Here's the SQL. select aa.* from (select a.arrival_time, b.route_id, b.trip_headsign, d.departure_time, d.stop_id, e.stop_name, case when d.departure_time > a.arrival_time then a.arrival_time - d.departure_time + '24 hour' else a.arrival_time - d.departure_time end as travel_time , a.arrival_time - lag(a.arrival_time) over (order by a.arrival_time) as headway from stop_times a join trips b on (a.sq_seq = b.sq_seq and a.trip_id = b.trip_id) join calendar c on (b.sq_seq = c.sq_seq and b.service_id = c.service_id) join stop_times d on (a.sq_seq = d.sq_seq and a.trip_id = d.trip_id) join stops e on (d.sq_seq = e.sq_seq and d.stop_id = e.stop_id) where a.sq_seq = 7 and c.wednesday is true and d.stop_sequence = 1 and a.stop_id = 'R11S' and b.route_id in ('N', 'Q', 'R'))aa order by aa.headway, aa.arrival_time This is an nested SQL statement so, it's better to work from the inside out. I'm scanning the stop_times table for the 'R11S' station. Each entry has a trip id, which I use to link to the specific entry in the trips table. The trips table has the route id and the destination sign. I limit the search only to the N, Q and R routes. The trips table also has an entry to the calendar table via the service id. I further limit the search to weekdays (namely Wednesdays). Next I go back to the stop_times table to pick up where the train originated. That's linked by the trip id. The stop where the train originated has a stop sequence of 1. That allows me to pick up the train's departure time and calculate the travel time. I'd like to know the name of that first station, so I link to the stops table via the first station's stop id. Finally, I need to calculate the difference in arrival times between trains at Lex/59 to calculate the headway. That's where the lag function comes in. The lag function orders a particular field in a given order and returns the previous row's value. Subtracting that value from the current row's arrival time gives me the headway. I sort the table by headway and station arrival time to give me hints where to look. I run the same query again and order them only by the arrival time to get the data I presented. I nested the SQL so that I could use the order statement with the column names I created in the inner SQL. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 21:57:28 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 21:36:52 2015. Thank you for that detailed explanation. I'm currently using Excel as mentioned, I never heard of that database. Is it not possible for Excel or do I need to download PostgreSQL?The googlezip file I downloaded are text documents in notepad? Are they supposed to be CSV? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 22:08:24 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 21:57:28 2015. Notepad and Excel will probably go tilt. There are 533,815 lines in the stop_times.txt file. Yes, it's contents is in csv format. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 22:11:55 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 22:08:24 2015. Correct, I just looked 533,815. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Dec 20 22:33:41 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 20 18:27:57 2015. I honestly believe that patching and constant updating are part of the problem, not part of the solution. If patching were illegal, maybe software would have to be good to start. Instead, all we get is junk. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 20 22:50:11 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Dec 20 22:33:41 2015. Couldn't agree more ... I'm still old school on that, and it has a few of our KNOS customers unhappy that we're holding off release until we finally get the bugs out of Firefox and our OS. Rewriting other people's broken crap really honks me off but my own reputation rides on every copy. We don't play that. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 23:02:30 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 21:36:52 2015. Would the CONCATENATE function in Excel fulfill all of the above? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 23:21:26 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 23:02:30 2015. Would the CONCATENATE function in Excel fulfill all of the above?No. The concatenate function is a way to combine 2 or more strings into a single string. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 20 23:26:13 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 22:11:55 2015. You doubted Stephen Bauman? He does not need your confirmations. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 20 23:26:26 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 23:21:26 2015. heh |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 20 23:28:24 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Dec 20 22:33:41 2015. SMH. Please answer all the questions I've asked you in the last few days. And please leave my patches alone. My patches help my software work better, If you want buggy software, then down apply the patches. But don't kill it for the rest of us. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 23:48:17 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 23:21:26 2015. Okay thanks. From your description and my unfamiliarity of SQL I was thinking VLOOKUP at first. |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Dec 21 00:05:39 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 20 19:45:03 2015. 2nd Ave local? There isn't going to be an express, so how can there be a local? If you mean 2nd Ave from Hannover Square to 125th then sure, they've said that in the past. But it's not like it's being used now, so make it the T from somewhere south to Astoria. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 21 01:27:06 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by WillD on Mon Dec 21 00:05:39 2015. As I tried to make clear, MTA is selling a shirt so labeledhttp://www.nytransitmuseumstore.com/Classic-Subway-T-Shirt---T-Train-2nd-Av-Local/-8866417098222379280/Product I have no opinion as to the wisdom of same, but I have a shirt waiting in a drawer to wear when I come east to ride the stubway. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Dec 21 07:01:36 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by BusRider on Sun Dec 20 23:48:17 2015. The lookup functions are closer to SQL's join. The problem is that join allows for one-to-many links and the lookup table does not have to be sorted.My experience has been that spreadsheets are used for applications for which they are not suited. Database tables may resemble spreadsheets. However, that's where the similarity ends with regards to operations performed on them. It might be possible to kludge something using a spreadsheet but you would be creating a kludge. My experience has been it's better to use appropriate tools for specific tasks. There may be a steep learning curve. In the end you will have something that's usable. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Dec 21 07:25:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Dec 20 11:21:16 2015. I have my doubts. But I do believe it will open before I'm 52 (that's in 2020). When they started (again)in 2007, I didn't believe it would ever get as far along as it has.That's the beauty of being a pessimist. I'm never disappointed. I'm either validated, or pleasantly surprised. Now, about the REST of that line... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Dec 21 07:26:53 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 20 12:53:53 2015. I've come to believe that the 63rd-96th segment really will open within the next 5 years. The rest of it? Who knows? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Dec 21 09:56:04 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by MainR3664 on Mon Dec 21 07:25:42 2015. There may be a whole new mode of transportation none of us could ever have imagined get developed before the full-length of the SAS opens.But yes I think it's more likely than ever that we will see the first three stops and see them soon. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 10:52:28 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Dec 20 21:36:52 2015. So where is the zip file available for download? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 21 11:00:18 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 10:52:28 2015. So where is the zip file available for download?Developer Data Downloads |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 11:54:39 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 21 11:00:18 2015. Thank you! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 21 11:56:48 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 11:54:39 2015. Thank you!You're welcome. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Mon Dec 21 11:57:45 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 20 12:49:39 2015. If the (W) returns, then they would probably put the (N) back in express service, so no merge would be necessary.Bob |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 12:15:06 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by GIS Man on Mon Dec 21 11:57:45 2015. Somewhere the N on the express track has to merge with the R and the W (or whatever they will call it) on the local track. If not at 34th then north of 57th if that's possible. Eventually all three lines have to be on the single track heading to 5th Ave. |
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Posted by BusRider on Mon Dec 21 12:56:20 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Dec 21 07:01:36 2015. It certainly will be, I'll have to download the software and play around with it then. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Dec 21 17:02:58 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 12:15:06 2015. How about using the crossovers just before 57th St, like the pre-MTA days with the Astoria "T" trains? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Dec 21 17:07:12 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by zac on Sun Dec 20 17:26:37 2015. Isn't Lindsay dead? |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Dec 21 17:13:02 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 21 01:27:06 2015. Well clearly your T-Shirt is clearly an ironclad reservation of the T train for use on the Second Avenue line. It obviously cannot be used anywhere else lest someone with one of those T-Shirts become confused. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 21 18:04:51 2015, in response to W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SI 93 on Sun Dec 20 10:21:41 2015. The service plan will be known when the train operators and conductors start picking jobs. The book comes out about one week prior. The run book comes out, each t/o and c/r picks a job one by one. This process takes upward of 10 weeks, according how many are picking per day and if they are picking on Saturdays.Therefore you and everybody else will find out at least 4 months before implementation and if it's delayed you'll have more notice. My opinion: Astoria will not lose service, all Q slots will be taken up by W trains terminating at Whitehall (Canal St. for post rush lay-ups. Q to 96th St. With the absence of R179's, car availability throughout the B division will be tight. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Dec 21 18:29:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 21 18:04:51 2015. How many trains would be needed for a W service, and would the amount of trains needed for the Q change when it is routed up SAS?Perhaps this question is a bit premature, with not enough info being available to answer it. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 21 18:49:24 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Dec 20 19:30:58 2015. Some Lex riders will have NTTs and the A/C on the R-62s which are returning the Pelham still works well. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 18:55:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Dec 21 18:29:42 2015. I seem to remember someone calculated 8 trains for W service from Whitehall to Astoria every 10 minutes.Q to 96th will be somewhat quicker than Q to Astoria. Note that at the moment some Qs and Ns don't go to Astoria but turn at 57th. So it's complicated. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 21 19:23:28 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Elkeeper on Mon Dec 21 17:02:58 2015. Although that can be done, with trains no longer terminating at 57 St as in pre Chrystie days the merge N/O 57 St would be a bit smoother. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 19:27:19 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Mon Dec 21 19:23:28 2015. But why would it be any smoother than doing it at 34th where it currently happens? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Dec 21 20:03:05 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Mon Dec 21 19:23:28 2015. with trains no longer terminating at 57 St as in pre Chrystie days the merge N/O 57 St would be a bit smoother.For most of the pre-Chrystie period all 3 BMT expresses terminated at Times Sq and used the tracks between 57th & Times Sq to relay. Only the non-rush hour local that did not go to Astoria (4th Ave or Brighton at various times) would terminate at 57th. That changed when the 11th St Cut opened. The West End and Sea Beach Expresses still terminated at Times Sq and relayed. The Brighton Express switched to the local between 34th & Times Sq. That lasted for about six months. The West End and Sea Beach Expresses terminated at 57th. The track between 57th and Times Sq was no longer needed for relay purposes. The Brighton Express switched from the local to the express track at the switches south of 57th St. At no time were either the express tracks between Times Square nor the express tracks in 57th St devoid of trains. While you did not explicitly state that trains switched from express to Astoria NO 57th, you did leave that impression. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 21 23:49:46 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Dec 21 20:03:05 2015. I didn't get that impression at all. Though maybe it's because I knew they merged S/O 57th. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Dec 22 03:06:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Union Tpke on Sun Dec 20 19:00:17 2015. I thought of that, but that would mean building two new corridors of almost three blocks between 60th (north end of 59th Street Station) and the 63rd Street and figuring out a way to do it where you can have it from both IRT levels of that station. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Dec 22 03:09:15 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 20 22:50:11 2015. And you are doing that the right way, the way it SHOULD be done. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Dec 22 03:17:57 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Dec 20 20:24:12 2015. That is true:Maybe what could be done is this: (W) is the full-time Astoria line between as suggested 9th Avenue and Astoria with the maximum number of trains per hours after whatever number of (R) trains use the tunnel at 60th Street (and in this case, Montauge since both lines would use the same tunnels. Outside of rush hours, the (W) could run with as many trains as the combined (N) and (Q) currently run to Astoria and (N) on weekends. (N) and (Q) both run to 96th/2nd as has been suggest with both being express on Broadway (with perhaps a limited number of short turns at 57th Street at certain times to avoid sending too many trains to 96th). This eliminates the need for merges on Broadway and likely makes the lines more efficient. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Dec 22 03:30:17 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Dec 22 03:06:42 2015. It could be done from the intermediate mezzanine at 59 St (between the local and express levels) but it would be difficult and expensive. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Dec 22 03:44:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 18:55:42 2015. Up until June 2010 they had enough cars to handle both N and W service to Astoria, while the Q terminated at 57 St. 57 St to 96 St/2 Av shouldn't take more than about 8 minutes (round trip 16 minutes plus relay time) so four additional train sets should be able to handle it. That's what those four 10 car R179's were supposed to provide but who knows when they will go into service. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Dec 22 04:01:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Mon Dec 21 19:27:19 2015. Also, the N running local north of 34 St provides additional service at the busy 49 St station. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Tue Dec 22 07:12:44 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 21 01:27:06 2015. i also have one |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 22 11:12:47 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 20 16:38:30 2015. It will take 8 seconds for the train to accelerate from 10 to 30 mph @ 2.5 mph/sec after clearing the interlocking. It will have traveled 240 feet during that time. It will travel another 360 feet in 8 seconds at 30 mph. The train's rear will now be 600 ft clear of the end of the interlocking and 900 ft clear of the interlocking's entrance. This is sufficient for the interlocking to display a yellow aspect and allow the follower to proceed at 10 mph. Additional time: 16 seconds; total time: 66 seconds; time to next train: 90+ seconds. Margin: 24+ seconds. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Dec 22 13:34:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 21 23:49:46 2015. Normal SOP was to have the West Ends switch to the lcl tk S/O 57 St but if congestion developed on the exp tk between 34 and 57 St, then a plat C/R would be sent to instruct the West End M/M to punch for the lcl tk at 34 St and operate lcl N/O there. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 22 18:32:22 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Mon Dec 21 18:49:24 2015. The only problem with the R62's I have are their ineffective, dingy lighting system. |
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Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 22 18:37:30 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by VictorM on Tue Dec 22 03:44:42 2015. Killing the W saved 10 train sets.Extending the Q to Queens cost 5 train sets. Now the Q gets diverted to SAS, which still requires the 5 train sets. So where are the 10 train sets if SAS opens before any R179 goes into service ? |
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Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 22 20:21:37 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 20 16:42:26 2015. They need their exercise as do the museum old timers. |
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