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Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 12 21:02:52 2015 Gerber's World on the 34th Street elevatorAre Allan Rosen's assertions are true that the nearby PATH elevator can be used as an ADA substitute and NYCT deliberately omitted this? Find out in my post. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 12 23:13:01 2015, in response to Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 12 21:02:52 2015. You need to update your post. He was fired. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Oct 12 23:31:35 2015, in response to Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 12 21:02:52 2015. David,Aside from mentioning the system on the subway map NYCT is under no obligation to detail PATH facilities. PATH certainly doesn't mention much about the NYC Subway. While Mr. Rosen has an interesting idea (which he should have thought out further before putting fingers to keys), you have it correct on your page that the upward ramp from the PATH unpaid area to the 34th St unpaid area would be too steep for someone in a wheelchair (and probably someone on crutches or using a cane as well). Allan Rosen's ASSertions are pretty much that. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by The silence on Tue Oct 13 00:53:48 2015, in response to Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 12 21:02:52 2015. The MTA can't guarantee that the path elevator is working. They can't guarantee there will be no obstructions between the path elevator and the MTA areas. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Oct 13 01:15:13 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by The silence on Tue Oct 13 00:53:48 2015. speaking as someone who often acompanies a person in a wheelchair,the ADA specs forshallow grades certainly apply for many persons particularly in manual chairs or if a power chair is being balky, an upper grade power chair can negotiate much steeper ramps. Also, IF the chair is being pushedby a companion, many non compliant ramps can be negotiated.That said, myexperience w/ a friend trying to use the F from Herald Square we had difficulty making the"step" up to the floor of (maybe) an R-4x. Between her power chair and my determined tugging we got in, but alone her chair would not have done it. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 13 01:54:29 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Oct 13 01:15:13 2015. Not even turning around and using the rear wheel in reverse to negotiate it? |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Oct 13 02:01:31 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 13 01:54:29 2015. IIRC that's what we did; so between the chair and me emulating "da gorilla" we managed. But I was pissed, she too. I suppose, this being a rail site I should have said helper? |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 13 02:19:14 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Oct 13 02:01:31 2015. No worries on that. Worked for the state, and now work for Apple. We hire the (ugh, how I hate this word) "handicapable." Been there to help many over the years and the small wheel and the big wheel are well known to those who use chairs. I was just wondering if the old "reverse move" failed as well, then it would be a problem to everyone.As I'm sure you know, when there are disabilities, you have to adapt and work with them. I was just wondering about the details here because some disabled people are spoiled and aren't willing to make their OWN accommodations in order to get around. Sometimes you have to punt, goes the same for the well-abled. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 13 02:26:33 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 13 02:19:14 2015. I might add ... the MTA is a STATE agency and it just so happens that there is a state agency for the disabled. I've worked with them many times in the past when I worked for the state, and they are GREAT people there.If your friend assessed the situation as sorely lacking and would like to do something about it, they should contact the Office of Advocate for Persons with Disabilities. The Office of Advocate for Persons with Disabilities (OAPwD) is a systems advocacy agency for people with disabilities. Its primary mission is to ensure that people with disabilities have every opportunity to be productive and participating citizens through: full access to emerging technology; access to up-to-date, comprehensive information on and referral to programs and services available to people with disabilities and their families; and, implementation of progressive legislation protecting the equal rights of people with disabilities. For information about OAPwD, call (800) 522-4369 or (518) 473-6005, (voice, TTY and Spanish call (518) 473-4129), electronic BBS call (800) 943-2323 or refer to the OAPwD Web site at http://www.cqc.ny.gov/. Many of the people I used to work with when I was with the state are still there, and they're an excellent place to point out failings and needs with OTHER state agencies. :) |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 13 12:15:09 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 12 23:13:01 2015. Is it not my style to update a post reflecting whether he was fired or not. My post was intended to determine if NYCT should have mentioned the PATH elevator in their service notice and whether Mr. Rosen is correct that mobility impaired customers can use the alternate elevator instead of traveling to another station. Based on my field visit along with close observations, Mr. Rosen was clearly incorrect and NYCT's information about the 34th street elevator is accurate. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 13 12:16:55 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Allan on Mon Oct 12 23:31:35 2015. It's like a college assignment - - where are your sources which corroborate your statement? I linked my source about the ramp. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 13 23:24:32 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 13 12:15:09 2015. Ok, but....that means you're as bad as him and JayZeeBMT - intentionally leaving knowingly false information in your article.... |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 13 23:48:31 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 13 23:24:32 2015. I don't agree. He didn't post the manner in which Mr. Rosen ceased being in that position. Saying that he was fired is irrelevant. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 14 01:42:09 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 13 23:48:31 2015. Heck, he didn't even say that Mr. Rosen ceased being in that position! That's my point! |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Oct 14 01:59:34 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 14 01:42:09 2015. "Allan Rosen is a former NYCT employee" wasn't in the post originally? It's there now. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 14 02:02:08 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Oct 14 01:59:34 2015. No, it was there originally. So that must not be what I'm talking about. Go back to the beginning and look at what I said. In what context would it make the most sense? |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 14 07:53:36 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 14 02:02:08 2015. Bump. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 14 08:20:18 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 14 01:42:09 2015. He did say it. He said "former." |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 14 08:46:50 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 13 12:15:09 2015. Who is Allen Rosen? |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 08:51:41 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 14 08:46:50 2015. Who is Allen Rosen? Certainly no one relevant to this thread. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 08:53:12 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 14 08:20:18 2015. SMH. I can read. I know that. Obviously I must be referring to something else. Go back to the beginning and look at what I said. In what context would it make the most sense? Give me some credit here. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 14 10:11:17 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 08:53:12 2015. While this bit of information (the mode of Mr. Rosen's exit from NYCT) does not seem relevant to the OP's post it does seem to be extremely vital to you. I hope for your sake, that you can get it resolved. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by fdtutf on Wed Oct 14 12:17:01 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 14 10:11:17 2015. LOL. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:15:01 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 14 10:11:17 2015. While this bit of information (the mode of Mr. Rosen's exit from NYCT) does not seem relevant to the OP's post it does seem to be extremely vital to you.Huh? What does that have to do with this? |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:15:15 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by fdtutf on Wed Oct 14 12:17:01 2015. :) |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:44:20 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 12 23:13:01 2015. You need to update your post. He was fired.I'll give all of you a little more time to try to figure out what I meant. If you still can't, then I apologize in advance for assuming that someone would figure it out, and I'll go ahead and explain it. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by fdtutf on Wed Oct 14 13:48:20 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:44:20 2015. I almost posted a link this morning, but I didn't want to jump the gun. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:52:47 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by fdtutf on Wed Oct 14 13:48:20 2015. Heh. Yeah, let's see if anyone who doesn't know about it can figure it out. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 14 14:37:55 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:15:01 2015. This has little to do with that but that is of significant relevance to this. Or is it the other way around. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 14 14:58:45 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 08:53:12 2015. I don't know what you're referring to. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 14 14:59:51 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:44:20 2015. I see what you mean now. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 14 15:01:04 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 14 14:58:45 2015. Disregard |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 21:28:39 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 14 14:59:51 2015. :) |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 21:30:29 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 13:44:20 2015. I'll go ahead and explain it.He was fired from Sheepshead Bites. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu Oct 15 10:25:09 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 14 21:30:29 2015. A link, you ask? Why, certainly:His own comment on Facebook. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 15 13:10:51 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by fdtutf on Thu Oct 15 10:25:09 2015. I wasn't going to bother unless anyone cared. Doesn't seem anyone does. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu Oct 15 13:31:51 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 15 13:10:51 2015. Oh well. Their loss (or gain, perhaps?). |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 16 13:02:36 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 13 23:24:32 2015. Intentionally? I don't follow Mr. Rosen on Facebook but now since you mentioned it through a confirmed link, I will update my post tonight.Don't think I intentionally left out stuff - - this was unintentional. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by fdtutf on Fri Oct 16 13:12:25 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 16 13:02:36 2015. There's a difference between intentionally leaving out and intentionally leaving, i.e. allowing to remain. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 16 17:29:20 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 16 13:02:36 2015. "Intentionally" because I told you he was fired and you replied that you weren't going to update your post to reflect that as I had said. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Oct 20 16:33:37 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 14 02:02:08 2015. Thanks for the clarification. Since the first time you posted the why-were-you-fired reply in a much earlier thread (on Buschat, I think), I somehow incorrectly arrived at the assumption that you had recently discovered that he had been canned as director of bus planning back in the 1980s. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 21 01:19:23 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Oct 20 16:33:37 2015. You're welcome. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Oct 21 12:46:41 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 21 01:19:23 2015. BTW: I finally got a chance to make the correction via. a disclaimer. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 21 21:44:20 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Oct 21 12:46:41 2015. Excellent. Job well done. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Oct 22 12:34:12 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 21 21:44:20 2015. Thank you. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 26 13:45:57 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by fdtutf on Thu Oct 15 10:25:09 2015. What comment on Facebook says I was fired? All I see is a link to an article. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by fdtutf on Mon Oct 26 13:48:24 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 26 13:45:57 2015. The comment that I linked to. You have to be logged in to Facebook to see it, I think. Here is the text of the comment:After five years, I was fired from Shwepsheadbites. This was my last article for them. Guess I stepped in too many toes. The city doesn't want its citizens to know the truth, only the lies they spread. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Oct 26 14:09:19 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by fdtutf on Mon Oct 26 13:48:24 2015. The comment that I linked to. You have to be logged in to Facebook to see it, I think. Here is the text of the comment:No need to be logged in to see it. So BrooklynBus fails at Facebook, too, |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 26 15:38:05 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by fdtutf on Mon Oct 26 13:48:24 2015. That is not a comment I posted on Facebook. |
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Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator |
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Posted by fdtutf on Mon Oct 26 16:15:48 2015, in response to Re: Allan Rosen and the 34th Street (Herald Square) elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 26 15:38:05 2015. So this isn't you? Both the post and the comment on it (the comment I quoted above) were posted by that Facebook user. |
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