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Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by B68 slow poke on Wed Sep 30 05:23:47 2015

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Dinkins = let them VENT !
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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 30 06:51:46 2015, in response to Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by B68 slow poke on Wed Sep 30 05:23:47 2015.

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Subject corrected. That's a 1980s photo.

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 30 09:19:37 2015, in response to Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by B68 slow poke on Wed Sep 30 05:23:47 2015.

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The era wasn't that bad. Not a drop of graffiti on those young people.

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 30 10:13:19 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 30 06:51:46 2015.

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PWNED

Dinkins' term started 1/1/90, by then, graffiti was virtually gone from the subways. (and alas, the R-21 or R-22 pictured was no more) :(



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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 30 10:38:06 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 30 06:51:46 2015.

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And who was Dinkin?

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 30 11:26:45 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 30 10:38:06 2015.

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And who was Dinkin?

The donut guy...



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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Sep 30 11:37:13 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 30 09:19:37 2015.

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More like not a smudge of shit on those young people. 8-) Karl

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Sep 30 11:46:23 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 30 06:51:46 2015.

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The Winston and Don Q ads date this pic to around 1983 or 1984, at that! I believe cigarette ads were gone from the NYC subways by the time Dinkins was sworn in...

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Sep 30 11:49:08 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Sep 30 11:37:13 2015.

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Those "young people" are well into their fifties now...LOL!

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by R30A on Wed Sep 30 13:02:39 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Sep 30 11:46:23 2015.

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Cigarette ads were banned in 1993.

That said, the above end door ad panels were seemingly used for nothing but cigarette ads, so nothing replaced them. I remember ads in place which must have been after the 1993 ban. In the later 1990s, stripmaps were placed in that position.

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 30 13:09:18 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 30 10:13:19 2015.

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Dinkins' term started 1/1/90, by then, graffiti was virtually gone from the subways.

There were more problem than Graffiti by Dinkens's time.

It reminds me of George Carlin's old "Hippy Dippy Weatherman" routine [paraphrased]: "At the top of the map, we see thunderstorms coming in ... also some Russian ICBMs, so I wouldn't sweat the thunderstorms."

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 30 14:06:45 2015, in response to Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by B68 slow poke on Wed Sep 30 05:23:47 2015.

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No. Sorry. Whatever I could say about Mayor Dinkins, this one isn't on him. Graffiti was mostly gone by late 1987, and entirely so by mid-1989.

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 30 15:34:35 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 30 10:13:19 2015.

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That’s an R-21, distinguishable by the reverse cab door and the hand “straps."

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 30 17:37:48 2015, in response to Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by B68 slow poke on Wed Sep 30 05:23:47 2015.

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That goes back to Mayor Beame. Trains actually got cleaner under Dinkins, the grafitti was mostly gone, the GOH was well under way.

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 30 18:31:47 2015, in response to Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by B68 slow poke on Wed Sep 30 05:23:47 2015.

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I hated Dinkins, but this is unfair. Grafitti was eradicated before he took power.

Blame Lindsay.

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Hamilton Express on Wed Sep 30 18:47:54 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 30 17:37:48 2015.

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The SMEEs were getting their life extended.

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Sep 30 18:49:46 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 30 18:31:47 2015.

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I hated Dinkins, but this is unfair.

I never cared for his donuts.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Hamilton Express on Wed Sep 30 18:53:24 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 30 18:31:47 2015.

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How's Lindsay to blame for all of this?

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 30 19:09:41 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by Hamilton Express on Wed Sep 30 18:53:24 2015.

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He was mayor when the toleration of grafitti began.

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Sep 30 20:32:31 2015, in response to Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by B68 slow poke on Wed Sep 30 05:23:47 2015.

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R-21

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 30 23:23:34 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 30 19:09:41 2015.

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Can I have a show of hands? How many here think Lindsay was a democrat?

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 1 11:17:36 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 30 23:23:34 2015.

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Lindsay was a closet Democrat. He grew up in a wealthy Republican family, so he became the "Fusion" candidate, instead of jumping ship. He ignored the middle class which only accelerated white flight. I hated him as mayor, but I always thought he would have made an excellent Parks Commissioner!

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Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA.

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 1 19:14:30 2015, in response to Re: Remembering DINKIN's ERA., posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 1 11:17:36 2015.

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All NY Republicans are utter RINOs.

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 4 17:26:24 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 30 06:51:46 2015.

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And probably 1980 given the paint job (possibly original) on that car.

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Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA.

Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 4 18:43:47 2015, in response to Re: Remembering KOCH's ERA., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 4 17:26:24 2015.

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The paint on that car between being faded and graffitied is so hard to see that I really can’t tell if it’s the original or if it’s the Ronan puke green and grey.

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