|
|
| Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly (1351660) | |
 |
|
| Home > SubChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
Page 8 of 13 |
||
|
| (1352353) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 16:11:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Sat May 16 15:10:13 2015. So now we have had the wreck and it will be activated. |
|
|
| (1352354) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 16 16:13:45 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 12:29:07 2015. That is why the keep the engineer. To supervise the machine. |
|
|
| (1352355) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 16 16:17:02 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 12:29:07 2015.  |
|
|
(Sponsored) |
iPhone 6 (4.7 Inch) Premium PU Leather Wallet Case - Red w/ Floral Interior - by Notch-It |
|
| (1352356) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 16:19:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by steamdriven on Sat May 16 16:09:56 2015. Yes, this is the conundrum of ANY speed restriction. Several thoughts from half a century ago. On the CB&Q speed restriction signage was frt, pass, Zephyr; that is zephyrs were allowed to take curves faster than passenger trains w/heavyweight cars. Second memory, a cab ride in a string of Silverliners on xmas from 30thSt to Penn. We slowed later for curves, accelerated back up to speed sooner because the MUs were more responsive than a GG1 pulled train explained the motorman. Three, early PC ETTs for that part of the RR had lists of cars allowed over 90mph. This was in the period when a few conventional trains including the Afternoon Congressional, were speeded up. |
|
|
| (1352357) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 16:21:13 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 16 16:17:02 2015. certainly you should log out of windoze. Linux is permitted, however. |
|
|
| (1352358) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sat May 16 16:25:31 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 16:11:55 2015. Yes it will."Amtrak ordered to make tech fixes at dangerous curves" http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/federal-railway-officials-order-amtrak-to-make-tech-fixes-at-dangerous-curves/2015/05/16/daec635e-fbf3-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html |
|
|
| (1352364) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 16 16:47:50 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by AlM on Sat May 16 10:33:58 2015. Awesome post! |
|
|
| (1352368) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by steamdriven on Sat May 16 17:27:21 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 16:19:55 2015. Sounds like there were intelligent life forms operating the RR back then ;-) |
|
|
| (1352370) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:35:24 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 16:21:13 2015. And if it's BSD, there had better be fire trucks and at least two feet of water if you're planning on rebooting that thang. :) |
|
|
| (1352371) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:36:01 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 16 16:17:02 2015. That's CSX' alerter, yo! :) |
|
|
| (1352372) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:40:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by steamdriven on Sat May 16 17:27:21 2015. Yeah, back in the old days railroad managers worked the railroad before moving up, so there was no BS'ing them. They used to DO your job. :) |
|
|
| (1352373) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 17:49:25 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by steamdriven on Sat May 16 17:27:21 2015. Though a dyed in the wool B&O fan, I have great respect for the PRR for the engineering side of years ago. GG1s? just a drop dead gorgeous performer. Riding behind one at 100, that's the good stuff. Or for that matter being overtaken by one when we weren't standing stilleither. The over/under puzzle at Zoo providing for freight bypasses both S and W,the flyovers for access to yards, the whole high line over 30th St. Basically the 1930s upgrade/rebuild of the eastern lines to electrification were awesome. OTOH, when they stuck w/obsolete steam designs or built things like the duplexes when diesels were already proven, they blew it. PRR bought too much poor performing junk from second rate builders--the aluminum skinned cars for the Jeffersonian/other St Louis trains didn't hold up,Alco smokers, etc. But the Budd built cars--some of which are still running in operations smart enough to have kept them alive (hint, not scrap the heriotage fleet idiots at Amtrak). And least but not least the E44s which were awesome in person.Unfortunately, the marketing and freight operations sides were terrible in the 50s. The Red team as they were spoken of in PC times were mired in the past and chased out the Green team hotshots Perlman had hired. That next generation of RRers went west and shaped up WP, and UP and were why they merged while PC west over on Market St was snoozing. |
|
|
| (1352374) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 17:56:09 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:40:55 2015. Starting out in the crafts can be useful but it also tends to a certain level of anti-intellectualism of which we have far too much in this country. It IS possible to understand how trains function without working outdoors; it just requires paying attention. |
|
|
| (1352376) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat May 16 18:13:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 17:56:09 2015. IAWTP |
|
|
| (1352377) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 16 18:15:37 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 17:56:09 2015. I don't know about that one...in the pandemonium just after the EMS-FDNY merger, I found myself under the command of a deputy assistant chief who had never been an EMT, and didn't know a cannula from a can of paint. We tried to overcome his ignorance of prehospital care, with predictable results. His orders didn't match reality...it was a messy mess! |
|
|
| (1352378) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 16 18:21:23 2015, in response to Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 12 21:35:00 2015. I could be wrong, but I thought that I just heard on KYW news radio, Philly, that ATC will be installed that NB curve (the crash site) , ASAP. Not PTC, but ATC.They went on the say that the SB side will be done, at a later time. |
|
|
| (1352379) | |
Re: AMTRAK CEO:''AMTRAK Takes Full Responsibility for Crash''...Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat May 16 18:23:47 2015, in response to AMTRAK CEO:"AMTRAK Takes Full Responsibility for Crash"...Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by heypaul on Fri May 15 21:11:27 2015. ...And the first train thru the crash site will be full of lawyers! |
|
|
| (1352380) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 18:28:21 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 16 18:15:37 2015. A poor learner/insecure manager will be like that. If you have any brains, you learn from your workers who are specialists in things you don't have hands on knowledge of. In construction (I am an electrician) the general contractor "coordinates the trades". S/he doesn't need to have ever wired a circuit or run a plumbing waste line, but does need to seek input from each of the trades in order to get the project built with the fewest conflicts and mistakes. It is true that I sometimes say that the architects shouldn't get a license until they have done actual construction work, but in fact I have worked with some who understand the issues without ever having used either a hammer or a screwdriver. And, no surprise, those architects also tend to imagine more beautiful/useful designs. |
|
|
| (1352381) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 16 18:30:56 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 16 18:21:23 2015. The South (Westbound) track has block signal control because the speed shift is from 120 mph to 50 mph, it was not necessary on the Eastbound track because that was only from 70 mph to 50 mph. Instead of dropping from 70 he tried to increase from 70 to 120, that did not work.ROAR |
|
|
| (1352382) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 16 18:48:06 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 16 18:30:56 2015. Thanks, I did not know that about the EB track. |
|
|
| (1352383) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 16 18:52:14 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 16 18:48:06 2015. The news article KYW/CBS aired.ATC |
|
|
| (1352384) | |
Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat May 16 19:25:27 2015, in response to Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 16 08:47:05 2015. Larry...Its easy to forget, this is not the real world here. This is not "Meet the Press". Aside from train related stuff,nothing should be taken seriously. The loin's politically tinged post basically belonged on the OT forum, sarcasm or ot. |
|
|
| (1352391) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Merrick1 on Sat May 16 20:30:17 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:40:55 2015. I don't know if that really matters. Every administrator in a school department started as a classroom teacher. In NewYork State you have to have two years classroom experience before you can get a license for any administrative job from Principal all the way up to Superintendent. Still, there's no love lost between teachers and administrators. |
|
|
| (1352392) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 16 20:38:29 2015, in response to Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 12 21:35:00 2015. I see no talk in here about the theory of how in typical fashion people like to throw things(rocks, bricks, etc) at trains in The North, and that two trains were hit earlier in the day, and they suspect this train was hit by such an object as well.In "response", the regulators want to put up speed limit signs on the line. Aside from the obvious logical correlation between the two, I guess nothing ever changes in the north. |
|
|
| (1352403) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 23:40:30 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Merrick1 on Sat May 16 20:30:17 2015. Agreed on the latter part, but at least the administrators knew the job. Educrats are their very own special kind of funky. Dealt with them a lot over the years. Glad I no longer have to hear "will there be a fruit cup?" when discussing setups for a gathering. :) |
|
|
| (1352404) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 23:45:42 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 17:56:09 2015. While I would generally agree, the real problem these days is that all managers seem to know about what they manage is metrics and spreadsheets and have no idea whatsoever about the widgets they're counting. When a problem crops up, the autonomic response is almost a reverse kind of intellectualism based on "really smart (unidentified) people came up with this and it's been proven again and again that ramming your head into a wall really works in motivation."I'm serious here. When something is broken, the LAST thing you want to do is get any of these pinheads involved in it. Unless you need money to fix it. Then the "justification" horror show begins in earnest where a simple repair turns into a multiyear project that requires study groups and funding that will never get approved. All for the want of a replacement turnbuckle. ("Huh? What's a turnbuckle? Don't be getting all technical on me, I asked a simple question. Why is our throughput down by 0.4%? Somebody isn't doing their job and I intend to find them.") Older folks will fix things, younger folks want to break the bank to buy all new. And then they wonder why things are broken. :( |
|
|
| (1352405) | |
Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 23:52:47 2015, in response to Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat May 16 19:25:27 2015. This ain't "Meet the Press" here - despite Tim Russert having retired, it still hasn't deteriorated to something comparable to here yet. Around here, it's more like a Glenn Beck episode. Yeah. That's the ticket! :) |
|
|
| (1352408) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 23:55:36 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 16 20:38:29 2015. Perhaps because "throwers" have been SO commonplace on railroads for SUCH a long time, engineers don't even pay any attention to it unless the rock lands inside the cab. And down south, it's usually buckshot that DOES break some glass. |
|
|
| (1352437) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 17 02:59:14 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 18:28:21 2015. IAWTP. This is true too with other trades, including software development. I've found the best project managers have the ability to listen, learn the general issues, and be able to organize and prioritize to get it done, yet may not have written a line of code in 15 years, if ever. |
|
|
| (1352438) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:00:39 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 15 23:08:55 2015. I think in light of the recent series of PTC-preventables crashes and the installation of PTC, that they should put an immediate law in place requiring a fireman onboard all trains not equipped with PTC. If they had done that in 1990, I bet PTC would have gotten installed really quickly, without all the "problems" that it supposedly has today. |
|
|
| (1352439) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 17 03:05:20 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Sat May 16 16:25:31 2015. Next question: do they have the money to do this? |
|
|
| (1352440) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Bill West on Sun May 17 03:09:59 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 16:19:55 2015. You have reminded of a 70's trains article on EP braking where it was explained that the braking could start closer to a curve. The problem was that Murphy's Law had the EP failure light coming on before the EP braking point ….but after the P only braking point. There is even an IEEE article from the 40's or so where someone was trying to come up with a Wheatstone bridge scheme to continuously monitor the EP trainline wires.Bill |
|
|
| (1352442) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:19:54 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:00:39 2015. All we need to get that done is a few lawgivers who are not afraid to be called a "commie" and snuff the opposition. Wake me up when that happens. :) |
|
|
| (1352443) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:20:28 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Sun May 17 03:05:20 2015. Of course not. And on TOP of that, they had their budget *CUT* to get it done. :( |
|
|
| (1352445) | |
Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:32:15 2015, in response to Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 16 08:47:05 2015. It's true. A lot of defense contracting and defense operations are basically socialist welfare programs. I wish we could put those socialist welfare programs into something more productive, like infrastructure and our inner cities. |
|
|
| (1352446) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:39:03 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 16 13:57:13 2015. They should have put ACSES on the whole corridor in 1999. They didn't. |
|
|
| (1352447) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:40:29 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 16 08:03:24 2015. Agreed. In theory, ACSES-equipped trains running on ACSES-equipped routes today could run themselves with a software upgrades on the train. NYCTA is doing CBTC. Shouldn't be that hard to scale up to FRA heavy rail... |
|
|
| (1352449) | |
Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:45:29 2015, in response to Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:32:15 2015. Ah. But who is it that has all the money to stroke the politicos? Comments on Facebook don't impress them. For those who can't cut a $100,000 check to get heard, you'd be amazed at what a written letter with a postage stamp on an envelope in their face can also accomplish.But NOBODY bothers anymore to do the last little thing that still works on the citizen's side. So the biggies all call the shots now instead. :( |
|
|
| (1352450) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:47:40 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:39:03 2015. No money, no frequencies to work it on. Amtrak JUST got the FCC to push the cellular carriers to sell off some spectrum to Amtrak so they can do that now. To America, what's more important is Facebook Messenger on their phone and so THAT is where Amtrak's bandwidth went until Amtrak ended up spending maintenance money to outbid Verizon for those frequencies so they could be used for PTC. :( |
|
|
| (1352451) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:49:16 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:40:29 2015. If only we could stop calling lawgivers who wanted to make that happen "commies." After all, Verizon and T-Mobile need that precious bandwidth to overcharge for data FAR more than saving lives on some stupid commie train. :( |
|
|
| (1352452) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:58:51 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:47:40 2015. For those who don't understand what I mean by all that. PTC and ATC depend on radio transmissions. The frequencies needed to do it were made available YEARS ago.What happened is that as soon as those frequencies that the railroads needed to DO ATC went up for "bid" because that's the way congress did it. The telephone companies outbid Amtrak (which couldn't afford to outbid them for the frequencies needed) and so those frequencies went to the cellular companies instead of the railroads. It was all about the Benjamins and Amtrak didn't have them. :( FCC just granted Amtrak a few spare bits left over to that cause just this past week and the cell companies are already threatening to sue over it. So we have lawgivers who have NO IDEA of what the words, "public interest" means and are siding with the cell carriers INSTEAD of making trains safe. People voted for this to happen! |
|
|
| (1352453) | |
Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 17 05:34:32 2015, in response to Re: You Won't Believe What Happened on Bostian's Earlier S/B Trip on TuesdayRe: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun May 17 03:32:15 2015. Sounds more like you like "socialist welfare" and want to label everything in society as such. |
|
|
| (1352454) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 17 06:18:46 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:58:51 2015. So, wait a minute - Congress allocated the frequencies in the first place, then allowed them to be bid on by anybody? WTF? |
|
|
| (1352455) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by pragmatist on Sun May 17 06:21:17 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 03:49:16 2015. Yup, and a few years back, after they sold spectrum originally intended for the public interest, bandwidth used for wireless microphone type equipment was taken back, many of us had to buy new equipment, and that bandwidth was given over to "public safety". The almighty dollar rules. |
|
|
| (1352461) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sun May 17 09:29:49 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Sun May 17 03:05:20 2015. It does not cost much money to change a ATC signal-induced speed code over a section of track. |
|
|
| (1352463) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sun May 17 09:30:37 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Sun May 17 06:18:46 2015. Yes |
|
|
| (1352464) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun May 17 09:33:23 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Sun May 17 09:29:49 2015. How much does it cost? |
|
|
| (1352467) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sun May 17 09:45:44 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun May 17 09:33:23 2015. According to a P.E. contractor on Trainorers.com:"All that had to be done was to go into the Central Instrument Houses at Shore and Ford interlockings change the control lines to read a maximum of 120 code between Shore and Ford." "Amtrak already had a system in place that would have prevented the wreck and just was not using it in this way because of philosophical opposition to enforcing severe civil speed restrictions through use of the cab signal system and wayside aspects. Even though they profess to have a "speed signal" system, certain people didn't want to use it to enforce train speed unless their hand was absolutely forced by an FRA mandate." |
|
|
| (1352469) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun May 17 09:50:15 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Sun May 17 09:45:44 2015. So then the crash was not a result of funding if AMTRAK failed to use currently available systems? |
|
|
| (1352470) | |
Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Sun May 17 09:52:04 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun May 17 09:50:15 2015. It is not practical to use ATC everywhere for every individual circumstance. |
|
|
|
Page 8 of 13 |
||
