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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015 http://ktla.com/2015/02/24/at-least-1-dead-after-train-hits-vehicle-in-ventura-county/ |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 24 10:21:02 2015, in response to Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015. They want more of those type of truck drivers here, don't they. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 10:34:50 2015, in response to Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015. saw it on TV many cars derailed |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 11:13:28 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 10:34:50 2015. The cab car (leading) spun around and faces the other way.2nd car (old UTDC style) on its side 3 and 4th car derailed. Said on NBC that truck driver fled the scene, and they caught him. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Feb 24 11:20:15 2015, in response to Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015. article now says no deaths reported. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 11:28:37 2015, in response to Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015. A RANDOM truck driver stopped his RANDOM truck at RANDOM crossing and then ran away. Draw your own conclusion. |
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Posted by TheHat on Tue Feb 24 11:42:27 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 11:28:37 2015. The future of terrorism, or no DL and questionable immigration status. Fine line, but "me no criminal"... |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 11:55:44 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning:correction, posted by The Silence on Tue Feb 24 11:20:15 2015. CNN said 2 critical injuries, that is was a produce truck.Driver not arrested at this point in time. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 11:56:52 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 11:28:37 2015. The odds of it being a stupid truck driver outweigh it being ISIS. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 12:02:08 2015, in response to Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015. Raw video from helicopterCBS 2 KTLA 5 Still photos       Whats left of the BBQ truck  
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Posted by steamdriven on Tue Feb 24 12:28:11 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 11:56:52 2015. Of course; slip of the moment, stupidity and plain goofing off are common as thumbs while terrorism is (so far :-| uncommon in this country. But such incidents demonstrate how easy it is for a person influenced by the grievance industry to "take a stand", "fight the power" "get revenge" blah blah blah and make their mark on the world.Grievance and revenge are written about in both the Bible and the Quran, but the approach to them is very different. Read both, then read the official interpretations of both written in the first few centuries after their founding. // O/T acknowledged, there are no subways in either book. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Feb 24 12:37:50 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 11:28:37 2015. If it was terrorism, I'm sure they would rig the truck with explosives first. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 13:03:11 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Feb 24 12:37:50 2015. Or used an oil truck, left 3 minutes before, and took driver away in get-away car. How long had truck been on crossing if they found driver a mile away ? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 24 14:06:32 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 11:28:37 2015. You know trucks get stuck on crossings of their own accord right? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 24 14:07:31 2015, in response to Video & Photos ... Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 12:02:08 2015. Looks like that Hyundai cab car held up pretty well. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 14:17:59 2015, in response to Video & Photos ... Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 12:02:08 2015. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 14:22:31 2015, in response to Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015. Last update:A Metrolink train derailed early Tuesday in Oxnard after slamming into a truck, injuring 28 people, four of them critically. The driver of the truck left the scene and was taken into custody, officials said. A Metrolink engineer was among the most severely injured, said Bryan Wong, chief medical officer at Ventura County Medical Center. The train was going 79 mph near the crossing at 5th Street and Rice Avenue at about 5:40 a.m. when its engineer spotted the truck, said Sergio Martinez of the Oxnard Fire Department. The engineer immediately hit the brakes but was unable to stop in time, officials said. Four train cars derailed. There were no fatalities, but 28 of the 51 passengers on board were injured and taken to local hospitals. Injuries included significant head trauma, broken limbs, and back and neck injuries, emergency service personnel said. At Ventura County Medical Center, Wong said of the nine patients brought to the hospital three were in critical condition. He said he spoke with one train passenger, now in stable condition. The man told Wong he sitting at a small table working on his laptop when he felt a sudden jerking movement. "It was so quick, he wasn't able to hold onto the table and he was thrown literally across the train," Wong said. There were a lot of friends and family members at the bedside of those hospitalized, Wong said. Nearby business owner Mark Perrier said he heard the crash Tuesday morning. "It was horrendous," Perrier said. "There was a very loud crash. The engineer was on his horn." Two neighbors told the L.A. Times that the safety arms at the crossing don't drop when a train is coming. But Metrolink spokesman Scott Johnson said, “All indications are that, at the point of the incident, everything at the crossing including the gate arms and emergency notifications and bells were working properly.” Fire officials at the scene said the train was traveling at its cruising speed of 79 mph when the engineer spotted the truck and anticipated the crash from "a far distance out." The engineer immediately initiated the train's flashing lights and braking mechanisms. The exact type of vehicle struck by the train wasn’t immediately known. But fire officials said it was not uncommon for farm equipment to travel through the area. Initially, officials said the truck was on fire before it was hit by the train. Capt. Mike Linbery, public information officer for the Ventura county Fire Department, later said officials were unsure if the truck was on fire before or after the crash. A trailer being towed by the truck was on fire when authorities arrived, Lindbery said. The driver left the scene but was found a couple of miles away and was taken into custody, officials said. Jorge Garcia, 56, was getting ready for work when he heard something unusual shortly before 6 a.m. He didn't think much of it until he heard the ambulances racing past his home. "I just heard a bang and then an explosion," Garcia said. "It was a big old boom. And then the ambulances started. ... You could see it was something big." Multiple emergency units responded. Several tarps were laid out where victims were being treated. Others were on stretchers being wheeled into ambulances. Three of the four cars that derailed had been equipped with a “crash energy management” system meant to absorb the shock of a crash and redistribute force away from passengers, a Metrolink official said. The fourth car, a bicycle car, was not equipped with the system. Union Pacific was hoping to make repairs by the morning, fire officials said. The National Transportation Safety Board, which investigates rail crashes, said in a tweet that agency officials were aware of the incident and were gathering information. In 2008, a Metrolink commuter train collided with a Union Pacific freight train on a stretch of shared track in Chatsworth, killing 25 people and injuring others. Investigators said the Metrolink engineer went through a signal light that should have warned him to stop until the freight had moved onto a siding. A year ago, Metrolink launched a state-of-the-art safety system along sections of its 512-mile network in Southern California at a ceremony that remembered the Chatsworth crash victims. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-california-trail-derails-30-injured-20150224-story.html |
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Posted by 600vdc on Tue Feb 24 14:26:16 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Feb 24 12:37:50 2015. It was the third rail's fault. Oh, wait a minute..... |
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Posted by steamdriven on Tue Feb 24 14:29:55 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 14:22:31 2015. "Injuries included significant head trauma, broken limbs, and back and neck injuries..."Those are not trivial injuries. If you're over 35 you won't just bounce back, and if you're under that age those may come back in your 50s. While there's nothing we can do about it, this does point out have pathetically narrow the track gauge is. Even though the train outweighs the truck by ten to one and hit the truck straight on, it still wound up on its side, which is what caused the injuries. Had the cars stayed upright there would probably be no injuries of any consequence on board. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 24 15:09:33 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by steamdriven on Tue Feb 24 14:29:55 2015. Would the fact that they were double deckers have anything to do with it? |
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Posted by steamdriven on Tue Feb 24 15:19:35 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 24 15:09:33 2015. Of course. But I'd bet a beer or ten that fewer coaches would side-spat if the wheels were set as wide as the vehicle like a car/truck, or even just at six feet. Yeah it's late to change.I don't know the difference in C of G between the single and double deck cars and I don't think you can tell by eye, as the floor heights and wheel/axle/etc assembly affect the C of G. Anyone here have access to those figures? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 15:56:29 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 11:13:28 2015. i think he was looking for help |
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Posted by Joe on Tue Feb 24 15:56:46 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by steamdriven on Tue Feb 24 15:19:35 2015. The LIRR has almost 200 grade crossings. Granted that a horrendous accident can happen at one one, if fear those with traffic of heavy trucks,such as at New Hyde Park Road. The SUV at Valhalla got shoved down the tracks. The truck at Oxnard seems to have been relatively immovable; it stayed at the crossing. And a locomotive shoving four cars against a stubborn obstacle?I wonder. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 16:23:27 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 24 14:06:32 2015. Yes they do, randomly. And then the drivers run off in random directions, don't they? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 24 16:29:58 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 16:23:27 2015. I would ti if I was operating without a CDL. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 16:32:14 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 24 16:29:58 2015. CDL not required, this was not a tractor trailer rig. This was a farm truck pulling a farm trailer.ROAR |
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Posted by steamdriven on Tue Feb 24 16:39:56 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 15:56:29 2015. Of course. No one on the parallel road, at the leading edge of west coast rush hour, would have noticed a fireball, a smashed truck and double height train cars lying on their sides. Nor would any of the hundreds of people within earshot heard the BOOM of a train hitting a truck at 80 feet/second.Clearly, the best way for the driver to help was not to pull his phone out of his pocket and call 911 and then go into the train to see if there were a fire requiring assistance, etc, but to run as far away as possible to inform someone that a train crash had occurred. Because not one person on the four car train would have a phone with them, the best way to assist them is to run away, to let someone else know that they should uh, run back to the train and do, mmm, something. This is what any reasonable person would do, it is impossible to contest this obvious fact! By the way, you can keep your doctor. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 16:41:27 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 24 16:29:58 2015. See, so you drew your own conclusion. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 16:41:58 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 16:32:14 2015. What do you need then to drive this thing in California ? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 16:42:56 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 15:56:29 2015. Best help located in Nevada? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 16:44:36 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 16:42:56 2015. nevada ?explain |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 16:46:56 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 16:41:58 2015. A Driver's License, not that he had one of those either. Nor a green card most likely.ROAR |
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Posted by Jace on Tue Feb 24 17:03:18 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 11:28:37 2015. My conclusion: this driver was not nearly as good a terrorist as the one in Valhalla. |
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Posted by Jace on Tue Feb 24 17:18:49 2015, in response to Video & Photos ... Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 12:02:08 2015. It's amazing that the crossing gate and light gantry are still standing despite the carnage all around. I wonder if the truck was pushed into them and then they acted as a fulcrum to force the cab car off the track. The dirt marks clearly show the lead car left the rails right after the crossing. The nose of the cab then dug into the embankment paralleling the tracks causing it to spin around. All told, the cars held up really well. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 17:38:00 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Jace on Tue Feb 24 17:03:18 2015. Did he check for scratches on his vehicle before he wandered off ? |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Feb 24 17:45:39 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 17:38:00 2015. Ooo, I like! :)joe r c |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Feb 24 17:46:22 2015, in response to Video & Photos ... Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Feb 24 12:02:08 2015. a bad day there.chud1. :(..... |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 24 18:46:46 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 16:46:56 2015. Nor a green card most likely.You don't have a green card if you are an American citizen. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 19:33:35 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 16:44:36 2015. Did you go to truck driving school.IAWMP |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 19:38:03 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Jace on Tue Feb 24 17:03:18 2015. So you believe that this was an act of terrorism? |
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Posted by HART BUS on Tue Feb 24 19:53:20 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 11:13:28 2015. Appears to be a similar wreck to one that took place in SOCAL in 2005. A fellow stalled his Jeep at a crossing to commit suicide. Changed his mind, couldn't restart the car, got out and ran away.Also a push-pull consist. The conductor in the lead car was killed. It happened near a big box store (Costco ?) and the employees grabbed blankets, first aid kits and anything else they could use from the store's inventory to aid the victims until help arrived. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Feb 24 19:58:14 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by steamdriven on Tue Feb 24 16:39:56 2015. Lol. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Feb 24 19:58:28 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 24 15:56:29 2015. You're insane. |
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Posted by trAIn duDe on Tue Feb 24 21:07:17 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Jace on Tue Feb 24 17:03:18 2015. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 21:41:20 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 24 18:46:46 2015. This I know. Was he an American Citizen, I read that he was not. But then I read lots of things. Reporters are not very critical at what they put out and there are other even less reliable sources on the web.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 21:43:23 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 24 19:38:03 2015. No, but it can not be ruled out. But it makes good copy, if reporters have an agenda that every bad thing must be a teabagger, then why cannot the right believe that everyone is a terrorist. It is all part of the agenda.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 22:03:01 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 21:41:20 2015. LION found more "FACTS" over on the TRAINS website:************************************************* As of 530pmPST According to news reports 50 people were on board the train. 38 people were transported to area hospitals. 4 were in critical condition, including the locomotive engineer who was described as being in the worst condition. The engineer is expected to survive. The driver of the truck was found by police 1.4 miles from the wreck site disoriented. One Jose Alejandro Sanchez Ramirez. Mr Ramirez is from Yuma, Arizona and is in possessed a valid Arizona drivers license. Also found in the truck is what was described as various welding equipment. The truck is owned by a welding company in Arizona. Was described as being properly registered and insured. This afternoon or this evening when Mr Ramirez was released from the hospital he was taken into custody. According to one released statement it appears Mr Ramirez made a right turn onto the railroad tracks. He was traveling south on S.Rice Ave and was attempting to turn right onto E 5th St and mistook the tracks for the street. The railroad tracks parallel E 5th St. Sunrise in Oxnard this morning was 632am PST. There are NO fatalities reported in this wreck. Two news outlets said early on there had been a fatality. Earlier reports of the locomotive fuel having been spilled appear to be incorrect as several outlets reported the fire department as stating the locomotive fuel tanks were intact. ***************************** ROAR |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 24 23:46:04 2015, in response to Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 24 22:03:01 2015. So the new cab cars worked? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 25 04:26:52 2015, in response to Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning, posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 24 10:15:10 2015. Feds: Truck driver in train crash wasn't stuck on tracksOXNARD, Calif. (AP) — Federal investigators say were trying to determine why a pickup truck driver drove on to tracks and abandoned his truck, leading to a train crash that left three cars derailed and dozens injured in Southern California. "It was not stuck, it was not bottomed out on the track or something like that," National Transportation Safety Board member Robert Sumwalt said at a media briefing late Tuesday at the crash site in Oxnard. Officials had said immediately after the crash that the driver got stuck on the tracks. "We're very concerned about that, we're very interested in it," he said. The badly wrecked truck's emergency brake was in the on position and its headlight switch was in the high-beams position after the pre-dawn crash, Sumwalt said. Eight people were admitted to the hospital of the 30 people who were originally examined, officials said. Four were in critical condition, including the train's engineer. The driver, Jose Alejandro Sanchez-Ramirez, 54, of Yuma, Arizona, was found 1.6 miles away and 45 minutes later, said Jason Benites, an assistant chief of the Oxnard Police Department. Police said they tested Sanchez-Ramirez for drugs and alcohol but they would not discuss the results. He was briefly hospitalized then arrested Tuesday afternoon on suspicion of felony hit-and-run, Benites said. His Ford F-450 pickup was pushed some 300 feet down the tracks and ended up on the other side of the rail crossing, Sumwalt said. The truck was badly wrecked, but investigators said the engine was intact may give clues as to what happened. Sumwalt said his team had already recovered video and data recorders from the train and were sending them to Washington for analysis. The federal agency doesn't always investigate grade crossings, especially those with no fatalities, but this one was unusual enough to warrant it, Sumwalt said. "It's not your typical grade crossing accident," he said. Passenger Joel Bingham, a railroad aficionado and frequent passenger, said many of those aboard the train were asleep and shocked awake when the loud boom first happened. "It seemed like an eternity while we were flying around the train. Everything was flying," Bingham said. "A brush of death definitely came over me." Bingham said the lights went out when the train fell over. He was banged up from head to toe but managed to find an escape for himself and others, many of whom had been asleep when the crash happened. "I was just shaking," he said. "I opened the window and told everybody, 'Come to my voice.'" Lives were likely saved by passenger cars designed to absorb a crash, Metrolink officials said. They were purchased after a deadly collision a decade ago. The four passenger cars remained largely intact, as did the locomotive. The NTSB planned to examine the effectiveness of those cars, Sumwalt said. The crossing where the crash happened has been the scene of many collisions over the years. The train, the first of the morning on the Ventura route, had just left its second stop of Oxnard on its way to downtown Los Angeles, about 65 miles away, when it struck the truck around 5:45 a.m. The engineer saw the abandoned vehicle and hit the brakes but there wasn't enough time to stop, Oxnard Fire Battalion Chief Sergio Martinez said. One patient described how he had been working on his laptop and a moment later there was a sudden jerking motion that happened so quickly he wasn't able to grab hold of anything, said Dr. Bryan Wong, chief medical officer at Ventura County Medical Center. He was violently tossed against a wall of the train. The train typically would be accelerating out of the Oxnard station past verdant farm fields at about 55 mph, Metrolink spokesman Scott Johnson said. With braking, he estimated it would have hit the truck at between 40 mph and 55 mph. After such a crash killed 11 people and injured 180 others in Glendale in 2005, Metrolink invested heavily to buy passenger cars with collapsible bumpers and other features to absorb impact. Metrolink spokesman Jeff Lustgarten said the Oxnard crash showed the technology worked. "Safe to say it would have been much worse without it," he said. There have been six accidents at the crossing in the past seven years, including one in which a driver accidently turned onto the tracks in 2010 and was struck by a Metrolink train and injured, according to federal railroad accident reports. Two people were killed at the crossing last year when a car struck an Amtrak train. The accident happened on the same line as Metrolink's worst disaster when 25 people were killed Sept. 12, 2008. A commuter train engineer was texting and ran a red light, striking a Union Pacific freight train head-on in the San Fernando Valley community of Chatsworth. More than 100 people were hurt in what was one of the worst railroad accidents in U.S. history. ___ Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers John Antczak, Justin Pritchard and Sue Manning in Los Angeles; Amy Taxin in Tustin, California; and Alina Hartounian in Phoenix. |
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Re: Crash just got more interesting: (was Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 25 04:59:06 2015, in response to Crash just got more interesting: (was Re: Nasty LA Metrolink /truck wreck this morning), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 25 04:26:52 2015. Listening to Coast To Coast too? |
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