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Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Sep 24 16:03:36 2014

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A woman was viciously attacked by a group of teenage girls two weeks ago on the G train as it pulled up to a station platform. It all started after the woman said she spoke up about their cursing on a crowded train car.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140922/park-slope/woman-beaten-on-g-train-after-asking-teens-not-curse-near-kids-police

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by rkba on Wed Sep 24 18:27:03 2014, in response to Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Sep 24 16:03:36 2014.

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Yet another hate crime that will go unpunished.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by LRG5784 on Wed Sep 24 20:05:49 2014, in response to Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Sep 24 16:03:36 2014.

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That's why you mind your own business but at least she's okay.

Ratchets will be ratchet sad to say...

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by rkba on Wed Sep 24 20:16:17 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by LRG5784 on Wed Sep 24 20:05:49 2014.

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Blaming the victim for being attacked? Why do you make excuses for savage behavior?

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by rkba on Wed Sep 24 20:16:17 2014.

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She shouldn't start sh*t and if she was from here she'd know now to. Being Park Slope this is probably some stuck up hipster from the midwest that doesn't realize she's not in Kansas anymore and doesn't know how to mind her own damn business. It may not be right for the kids to take it that far, but dammit if someone started with me like that I'd be pretty pissed too. Don't be telling me what to do, this is NY not the midwest and maybe that's the kinda sh*t you do there but that's not how it works here.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Sep 24 20:26:46 2014, in response to Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Sep 24 16:03:36 2014.

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Glad police arrested the little punk bitch who viciously attacked this upstanding young woman.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Sep 24 20:30:42 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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She was outnumbered for one thing.

Any frequent rider knows that when you see a group of teens traveling together after school as a group just keep your mouth shut for your own safety.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by rkba on Wed Sep 24 20:44:06 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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The article says the victim is a native of Park Slope. Why are you making allowances for savages to act like savages?

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Gene B. on Wed Sep 24 20:53:36 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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She may not be in Kansas, but New York City is part of the USA (even if some people claim otherwise). There is no excuse in the world for those girls' behavior, plain and simple. Let's place the blame where it belongs and not on the victim.




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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by R46 5636 on Wed Sep 24 20:59:26 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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Ok good

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 21:13:34 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by rkba on Wed Sep 24 20:44:06 2014.

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Then she's just an idiot and deserved what she got. Whether or not they're right is another thing, but it can be expected.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 21:14:44 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gene B. on Wed Sep 24 20:53:36 2014.

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That kind of response from the kids can be expected when you START with them.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Sep 24 21:23:33 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by LRG5784 on Wed Sep 24 20:05:49 2014.

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I was just about to say "If anyone has to wonder why people usually "mind their business", this is why."

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 03:53:58 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gene B. on Wed Sep 24 20:53:36 2014.

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Both of you are correct.

She should have not said anything to them..people can say what ever they want.
MORE importantly, they should not have touched her.
My thing is,why is this just making news Now..if it happened two weeks ago..also,for the assholes out there who need to understand the difference between what exactly constitutes a 'hate crime''and what doesn't,one questions ..

Did PD lable this a hate crime?

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 03:55:19 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Sep 24 21:23:33 2014.

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Good answer.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by chud1 on Thu Sep 25 05:50:53 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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IAWTP!
chud1.
:)....

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by chud1 on Thu Sep 25 05:51:30 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Sep 24 20:30:42 2014.

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IAWTP!
chud1.
:)....

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by chud1 on Thu Sep 25 05:53:23 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Sep 24 21:23:33 2014.

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IAWTP!
chud1.
:)....

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Sep 25 09:02:56 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by chud1 on Thu Sep 25 05:51:30 2014.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by rkba on Thu Sep 25 11:45:38 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 03:53:58 2014.

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Doesn't matter if the police dept. calls it a hate crime or not. Let's face it, she was attacked for being a white girl who dared to open her mouth. If you think otherwise, you're naive.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 25 12:45:59 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by rkba on Thu Sep 25 11:45:38 2014.

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How do we know if the race of girls that attacked this girl was non white? We have no way of knowing what race these teens are as its not mentioned in the video.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The silence on Thu Sep 25 12:46:56 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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Did you read the article?

1. she's a native of Park Slope. Don't assume just cause someone is white and living in Brooklyn they're from Podunk. The video interviews her mother. Podunks usually don't have thier parents nearby...

2. She didn't "start" anything. Technically the students started it, and if you want to go at it from your angle, the father of the two little children "started it" because his kids were napping quietly in his lap and the students woke them up. She only spoke up after he said something.

3. Her statement was they should not be cursing infront of little children. That is not acceptable behavior

4. I don't care what she said, that gave them no right to get physical with her. They were in the wrong the moment they paid hands on her.

If everything was reversed, if 3 or 4 white kids ganged up on black person, everyone would be crying "hate crime" fat ass Shapton would be on the scene in a heartbeat, no one would be blaming the victim.

Double standards need to stop.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 25 13:25:25 2014, in response to Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Sep 24 16:03:36 2014.

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Wrong board.

Belongs on OTchat.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The ORION Kid on Thu Sep 25 15:16:19 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The silence on Thu Sep 25 12:46:56 2014.

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1. I don't assume anything because they live in BROOKLYN. There's areas with plenty of white natives like Sheepshead, Bay Ridge, Bensonhurst etc. When I hear northern Brooklyn, especially Park Slope, Williamsburg, Greenpoint and all those places, then yes I think stupid hipster from "Podunk" because that's who lives there. Watching the video and hearing the accent from her and her mother that's obviously not the case, but this dumbass is still just that. And her mother is gonna say she "taught her well"? You should've taught your daughter to mind her damn business.

2. She started it by opening her mouth.

3. Don't want your kids to hear cusses, don't take them out in public, cover their ears or move to bumf*ck NJ or LI where everything's just so wonderfully white and innocent. This is America and there's nothing you can do about the sh*t other people say. Do I cuss on the train with my friends? Yes I do, what are you gonna do about it?

4. It'd piss me off too if some dumbass told me what to say. Is being pissed off a legal excuse to hit someone? No, but this dumbass did something anyone with a brain knows could get your ass hurt and she got what she was asking for.

The article never calls anyone black either, but I agree that hate crimes should be treated equally no matter who commits them or who they're against though. That's some real BS. Is this a hate crime though, even if they were black? I think, say they were, if some black woman started with them there'd be the same kind of response. I'd give the same kind of response to anyone who started that BS with me no matter who they are.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 25 15:36:40 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Thu Sep 25 15:16:19 2014.

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FUCK YOU! People like you are ruining society.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 25 15:38:11 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Thu Sep 25 15:16:19 2014.

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Baloney!! Too bad more people don't have her balls. I respect her for what she said and would certainly not call her a dumbass.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 25 15:57:51 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 25 15:36:40 2014.

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Society is already ruined!

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 25 16:15:03 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 25 15:57:51 2014.

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Yeah. By people like him.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by chud1 on Thu Sep 25 16:24:20 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 25 15:38:11 2014.

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IAWTP!
chud1.
:)....

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Sep 25 16:26:01 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 25 15:38:11 2014.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 16:33:20 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 25 15:38:11 2014.

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I'm sure you do...
But Your 'respect' didn't do nothing for saving that ass for stepping out of pocket.
Heck..I Respect her for taking a stand against something that she found offensive.. rightly so..but my Respect means SWAT,due to the fact it didn't help her.
I'm sorry,Jeff..but the Golden Rule to riding the subway solo is to keep it simple..MYOB.

My heart goes out to her for what she did, and the
Price she paid.Hopefully she'll bring a headset next time.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The Silence on Thu Sep 25 16:37:25 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Thu Sep 25 15:16:19 2014.

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Just because you think it's ok to do something does not mean it is actually ok.

Yea, this is America, you have the freedom to say whatever you want.

And I have the freedom to tell you to be quiet...

these teens were not minding their own business, they were actively harassing the other people.



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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Jsun21 on Thu Sep 25 16:51:14 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by rkba on Wed Sep 24 20:16:17 2014.

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Someone has an angle.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 16:57:50 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Thu Sep 25 15:16:19 2014.

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Dude...
I feel where you are coming from.

Regardless of that,I say they were dead wrong to lay hands on her.
They Both should have ignored each other, they BOTH were wrong.

It Should have turned out much differently, with the lady stating her grivence..and the others Understanding, and with a simple "Pardon me",modified their conversation.

But,as we know,that's not how it works when ego is involved,disrespect is perceived.
She could have chosen to MHB..ignore It until she got off...or moved.
Of course,the bigoted nut jobs won't see beyond what's expected from them,but like I said.. it's expected.

Two wrongs won't make one right.Both parties should have known better.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Jsun21 on Thu Sep 25 17:04:54 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 25 12:45:59 2014.

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He thinks that because the two parties involved in a crime are of different races that it is automatically a hate crime. Or he assumes that a group of obnoxious teenagers sought out the woman to because of an anti-white bias, based on how he views them as "savages" I'd say something has colored his opinion.

But I'm glad the woman is okay, she doesn't actually seem to be too badly injured. On a side note, cursing on a train??? C'mon you're 40 years behind the curve on that.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 25 17:09:02 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 16:57:50 2014.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 17:09:56 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The silence on Thu Sep 25 12:46:56 2014.

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Fuck you..

I was with you All the way,until you made it a "black/white thing"

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 25 17:11:43 2014, in response to Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Sep 24 16:03:36 2014.

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I'm staying out of this one, guys!

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Jsun21 on Thu Sep 25 17:18:31 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The silence on Thu Sep 25 12:46:56 2014.

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Why does everyone think Sharpton is some sort of Super hero or that people cares. He's the third string replacement to a weak network slot. And spare me on the "double standard" stuff if there was a white on black crime we'd be having a debate about how there shouldn't be a 'hate crime' statute.

If there is no apparent racial motivation there shouldn't be a hate crime added to the prosecution, period.

Perhaps every time there's a white incident I should bring up Rush Limbaugh or some other obnoxious character since we seem to live in some strange paradigm where we can predict the thoughts of an ethnic group based on one loud member of that group.

On a sidenote, I've been beaten worse for less and didn't have any bystanders come to my aid or police make an effort to apprehend the suspects or get any press sympathy. Might the world be more willing to help an 'innocent looking' white girl than a minority, what do you think of that double standard?

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by FtGreeneG on Thu Sep 25 17:19:54 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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The lady definetely was not wrong in her intent at all bc they kids were being assholes but not the wisest of decisions. In today's world on the subway you just don't know who crazy. Especially with teenagers in a group, already loud and usually not want to look bad in front of their peers. Explosive combo. Then on top of that if there is a fight can't even depend on most passengers. Most are more likely to tape you get jumped than help.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by FtGreeneG on Thu Sep 25 17:21:25 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed Sep 24 20:22:03 2014.

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The lady definetely was not wrong in her intent at all bc they kids were being assholes but not the wisest of decisions. In todklvleay's world on the subway you just don't know who crazy. Especially with teenagers in a group, already loud and usually not want to look bad in front of their peers. Explosive combo. Then on top of that if there is a fight can't even depend on most passengers. Most are more likely to tape you get jumped than help.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 17:23:46 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by rkba on Thu Sep 25 11:45:38 2014.

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Base on that..a whole lot Could have happened, but wasn't said.
But since we are going on facts stated within the contents,we cannot simply use Your bias as an appied rule.

In other words,You assume the attackers were of minority decent just because..without factual evidence to support you.

Like I said,Dude...both parties were dead wrong...but that matters little to you.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 17:27:05 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by rkba on Thu Sep 25 11:45:38 2014.

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Well...guess I was right, especially the "asshole".

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by FtGreeneG on Thu Sep 25 17:53:05 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by rkba on Thu Sep 25 11:45:38 2014.

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The race of the girls were never mentioned. Not agreeing or disagreeing maybe they were black maybe not maybe there was a mix. Can't even base it on the neighborhoods. The areas the F goes through it's toss up. As someone who works for the MTA mostly during after school hours I can tell you the VAST majority of school kids after school are rowdy, loud and curse a lot black, white, latino, jewish, asian and all combinations in between. I've seen it all. And based on their actions i'm sure if they were the same race ascthe lady the result would have been the same. Glad they were caught.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 25 18:09:19 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by FtGreeneG on Thu Sep 25 17:19:54 2014.

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Another balanced post

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 18:14:57 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Jsun21 on Thu Sep 25 17:18:31 2014.

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The problem here is racism is factored into every fiber of our lives.

Logically, have you thought about what racial bigotry is...?
The "how and why"?

Logically...how could that make sense to anyone with even half a brain?
How could someone hate another person,or group of people.. for nothing more than the complexion of their skin or how they look?

It defies any real conscience thought...it just doesn't make sense.

Many people use 'racism' as a tool,a crutch or a means of getting ahead and staying there. Others use it as a tool to get things..such as land.. money, a home or business etc. Some use it as a way of securing what They believe is their 'God given right' to whatever endeavors they imagine..
Then there are those who don't need a reason.They are evil and rotten to the core,without care for person place or thing. The very people who smile in your face,even willing to help you if it benefits them in some way.

It doesn't make sense,yet here it is,motivated by greed,irradiated hate.
I know the answer...but wondering if I'm the only one here willing to be honest about it.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by FtGreeneG on Thu Sep 25 19:53:14 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Jsun21 on Thu Sep 25 17:18:31 2014.

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+1000. If I had a nickel for everytime I heard "where was Al Sharpton?!" I'd be a wealthy man.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The silence on Thu Sep 25 22:52:13 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 17:09:56 2014.

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Everyone's harping on the white girl who chose to speak her mind when the loons were running around the car. You'd be first in line demanding the teens be punished if they were white and she was black, don't deny it you damn racist.

They are guilty, she did nothing wrong.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by The silence on Thu Sep 25 23:00:31 2014, in response to Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 25 17:09:56 2014.

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If you need it in plain language, no one would be blaming the victim like they are in this thread is she was something other than white. Someone saw her and automaticly assumed she was not a native New Yorker because she was white and lived in Park Slope.

I brought up what I brought up because everyone would respond to if differently if the circumstances were different. If she was anything but white "she should have kept here mouth shut" would not be the first words out of anyone's mouths and no one would be defending her attackers. To deny that is naïve.

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Re: Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 25 23:58:28 2014, in response to Woman Attacked By 3 Teenage Girls On (G) Train, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Sep 24 16:03:36 2014.

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Where is Bernie Goetz when you need him

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