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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 07:27:13 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by Michael549 on Thu Aug 28 00:29:46 2014. This seems logical to me. And as others have said, seeing NO signals in front of her, this T/O should not have moved without clear instructions first. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 29 15:04:54 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 07:11:25 2014. The old signals are gone and AFAIK, the BMT is 100% "new" signaling. I am including the Bway Subway which while being controlled from City Hall Master Tower made use of some of the old BMT signals that were wired into the new system. |
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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 29 16:43:21 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 07:17:02 2014. Not sure. And the 63rd Street tunnel was a pipe dream back in my day. :) |
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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Aug 29 17:01:31 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 07:17:02 2014. The Willy B tracks are not reverse signalled, but the are protected by interlockings at Marcy Av and Essex St. Consequently, when doing single track operation, they can have have only one train at a time on the bridge, necessitating 24 minute headways. |
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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 00:53:14 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Aug 28 14:54:32 2014. The train operator misunderstood the instructions that she was given. She was reportedly told to pull her train into a siding, change ends and head northbound (on the northbound track). Instead, she changed ends at Canal St and headed north against traffic. Why? Perhaps she didn't understand the instructions. Perhaps she was not as astute as many buffs are about signal placement. Another question was why didn't the C/R. who also has a radio, not pull the emergency cord when he/she realized that the T/O was not following the instructions. From what I found out the crew and 2 managers are sweating this incident out. |
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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 00:58:05 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by heypaul on Thu Aug 28 16:31:15 2014. I suspect that the story is incorrect with respect to that. All involved would have been immediately escorted and ordered to report downtown for incident testing and then to submit written accounts of the incident. If there was a "meeting" 2 weeks after the incident it would more than likely been a Step I disciplinary hearing either to demote or terminate the crew. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 30 04:14:41 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 00:53:14 2014. Might it also be that the instructions weren't 100% clear? The person giving the instructions might have been a bit cryptic thinking there was no way his instructions could be misinterpreted, while the train operator wasn't that familiar with the area and did misinterpret. |
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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by heypaul on Sat Aug 30 06:22:54 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 00:58:05 2014. Okay, that makes more sense. |
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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Aug 30 10:01:10 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 00:53:14 2014. Another question was why didn't the C/R. who also has a radio, not pull the emergency cord when he/she realized that the T/O was not following the instructions. From what I found out the crew and 2 managers are sweating this incident out.Because some don't wanna be branded basically like a snitch, so to speak, as they don't want to commit and action that would "bang their partner in". In my TA days as well as at MNR, I have seen crewpersons who have indeed seen wrong actions, rules violations and the like, and because no one wants to be branded a snitch, or a "company man", ignorance ends up being bliss!! You know this as well as I do. While I never had to do it yet, and can say I have worked with many great people, I am not afraid by no means to pull the plug if things are going wrong and being done wrong. Good thing, again, I have never had to do it yet. |
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Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 10:13:55 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Aug 30 10:01:10 2014. If that turns out the case, then the C/R will have earned the penalty he/she faces. This was obviously not just a missed station. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 10:18:06 2014, in response to Re: Uh oh.. Northbound A Train Was Travelling on Southbound Tracks--- There Was No Fog on the Tracks, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 30 04:14:41 2014. That's a possibility and explains why managers may be disciplined. However, that does not excuse the T/O from challenging the instructions. There is no justification for what she did. |
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