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The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013 This Date In NYC Transit History: Friday, September 8, 1989 [24 years ago]...As best it can be determined, the last known recorded run of R-10 cars in regular passenger service was on that date mentioned above. It was said that the final train was the 7:36am put-in from Rockaway Park Yard, and the consist of the cars were n/#3209-3157-2961-3159-3181-3169-3008-3168/s. At that time, and due to a Con Ed asbestos problem along the IND 8th Avenue line at 50th Street, "C" service only operated as far north as 34th Street-Penn Station. There was said be an observation of this same R-10 train on Friday, September 15, 1989, but there was no further detail or confirmation if it was in actual passenger service, or simply being transferred from yard to another for disposal as scrap. The "C" line assignment sheet during the full week of September 11-15, 1989 did not list any R-10's at all. And so it goes... (Source: The "Bulletin", New York Division, Electric Railroaders' Association, October 1989 issue.) -William A. Padron ["(C) 8 Avenue Local"] |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 14:26:23 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. Thanks for posting. I liked the R10s, especially with the dark green paint scheme they wore in their last years.The thing that really baffles me, is that with their popularity among many fans, how come there isn't a single video of these cars in action minus the one posted on Youtube that shows them and many other cars in action during the 70s and 80s? |
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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 8 14:50:20 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 14:26:23 2013. Did we have digital video back then ?Tape camcorders were expensive then too. |
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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989. |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:12:41 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. ...followed by that R-10 fan trip on 10/29/1989. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Sep 8 15:13:45 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. William: This is an excellent and informative post. With your permission I would like to incorporate this into "The Book of Last Runs"listing you as the source.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by davesgcr on Sun Sep 8 15:16:27 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:12:41 2013. They looked outstandingly good in green - did they not have "City of New York" on the side ? )seem to remember seeing some from the JFK Express back in the day ...?) |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Sun Sep 8 15:17:05 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. man i wish there were more preserved, can 3184 even operate anymore? |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:20:07 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by davesgcr on Sun Sep 8 15:16:27 2013. They looked outstandingly good in green - did they not have "City of New York" on the side ?no, that was the R-1/9's seem to remember seeing some from the JFK Express back in the day JFK Express never ran R-10's, only R-46's. |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:26:42 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. The September 11, 1989 car assignment was the first not to list R-10s, though they may have operated for a few days after that date. At the end, the R-10s ran only in C service.the last time that any R-10's carried any passengers was on the E.R.A. "farewell" fantrip on Sunday, October 29, 1989. The trip included operating on such lines as the Franklin Avenue Shuttle, the Archer Avenue routes (both levels) and a unscheduled surprise visit to the 63rd Street Line on its first day of revenue service. By the way, prior to the fantrip, these same exact eight R-10 cars were used at the lower level platform of the IND "F" line's Bergen Street station during the production of the thriller motion picture "Jacob's Ladder" starring Tim Robbins, and that train consist appeared in the film released in 1990. The last of the "Graffiti-fied" R-10s (non-forest green) were removed from service effective November 10, 1988. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:00:24 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Sep 8 15:13:45 2013. Be my guest, Larry,RedbirdR33! Thanks for the kind words, and you have my permission!-William A. Padron ["a.c.f."] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:06:23 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:12:41 2013. Renee,FYI, it was this thread that I started back then about the fantrip, where I was the 4th customer (of 250) to purchase a ticket at $30.00 each and rode that train to the end Farewell To The R-10: October 29, 1989. -William A. Padron ["Chambers St-WTC'} |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 16:11:07 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 8 14:50:20 2013. Yeah I know that, but it's kind of surprising that film of them in action is rare. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:12:34 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:20:07 2013. Supposedly, one R-10 train was put into service quickly on just one trip on the JFK Express, and that I believe was mentioned inside the brochure printed for and distributed along the 10/29/1989 fan trip. Also, I can attest as an eyewitness that I had seen one train of them in service on the Aqueduct Race Track Special, with car #3348 as the north end rear motor of the train way back (circa 1980 or so) downstairs in the lower level of 42nd Street-8th Avenue.The R-44's also operated on the JFK Express to/from 21st Street-Queensbridge. -William A. Padron ["Aqueduct"] |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 16:15:46 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 16:11:07 2013. But even then there is a lot of images of the cars, so I'm happy with that. :) |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:16:13 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:12:34 2013. The R-44's also operated on the JFK Express to/from 21st Street-Queensbridge.when was that? 1989-90? |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:16:13 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:26:42 2013. That I knew, and was posted here by me on SubChat. Plus, I was also on that train, and knew about it being in the film "Jacob's Ladder"...Farewell To The R-10: October 29, 1989. -William A. Padron ["145 Street, Manhattan"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:17:12 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:16:13 2013. Yes, that period 1989-90 you mentioned!-William A. Padron ["Roosevelt Island"] |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:17:30 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:16:13 2013. yah, we know... |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Sep 8 16:17:58 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:06:23 2013. my favorite trains along with da R1/9's.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:22:41 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:06:23 2013. i'm glad to ride the R-10's when they ruled the A line. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:25:20 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:22:41 2013. Me too! The R-10's are my favorite NYCTA subway cars, and the IND "A" line is my favorite NYCTA subway route. Together, in their great champion days, there were such a fine combo together (at least to me)!-William A. Padron ["Wash.Hts.-8th Av.Exp."] |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:31:41 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:25:20 2013. one of my favorite pics of the R-10's:
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:40:26 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:31:41 2013. Ah, yes, great picture of the R-10's indeed! A true AAAA++++!!! image!-William A. Padron ["Aqueduct"] |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:42:02 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:40:26 2013. yes indeed. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Sep 8 16:48:15 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:16:13 2013. There was a rule that there would be no ABD's (cancelled intervals) of JFK expresses.On more than 1 occasion, a graffiti scarred B train consist was used when bot lines shared 57/6 as the terminal. Naturally, the West End line took the hit of the missed interval. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Sep 8 16:50:26 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Sep 8 15:13:45 2013. Refer to Mr. Padron as "a/k/a Mr. R10". |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:18:44 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 16:11:07 2013. I would love to see a RFW clip on the CPW express n/b. Rode on it many times on R-10 Abbotts. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:20:18 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by chud1 on Sun Sep 8 16:17:58 2013. Same here, especially in the racing stripe scheme. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:21:05 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:25:20 2013. The R-10s will forever be associated with the Abbott. They were tailor-made for that line. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:22:09 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:31:41 2013. That half-and-half paint job looks freshly applied. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:23:02 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Ray Jules on Sun Sep 8 15:17:05 2013. AFAIK neither of the survivng R-10s are operable. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 8 18:13:19 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:22:09 2013. It probably was since it came after the original racing stripe scheme. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sun Sep 8 19:40:46 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:20:18 2013. They looked good in the 1960's turquoise/white with or without the stripe but once they started getting repainted in MTA blue/silver and the graffiti vandals started tagging them they looked horrible. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 8 20:11:07 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by murray1575 on Sun Sep 8 19:40:46 2013. Given a certain paint scheme, some cars looked better in one than others.R10's looked tacky in red, but R27's looked good. Arnines looked awful in silver/blue MTA, but R27's looked good. R32's looked good with blue doors, R16 (one car) , R38's-R42's did not. |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 20:31:54 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:18:44 2013. Same here. I would of liked to have seen a run on the Rockaways too. |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Sep 8 20:34:54 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 8 14:50:20 2013. rented a video camera and went to the GG line to record the 10's. Should have used a faster speed while recording. The video doesn't look that great but the audio is wonderful. |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 03:01:36 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by randyo on Sun Sep 8 18:13:19 2013. the photo is dated 8/25/1968. |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 03:01:58 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Sep 8 16:50:26 2013. Yup. |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 03:08:17 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:23:02 2013. well, ain't that a shame.... |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 03:15:28 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. do anyone here remember that R10 fan trip in june 1986? i know william "mr. r10" padron does... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 9 06:59:15 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. I remember the 1989 asbestos problem on the 8th Ave IND. It was caused by a flood which caused by a water main break.Back them I did know that the R10s would be going soon....but I didn't know it was right then.. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 9 07:01:36 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013. Thanks, Mr. Padron!! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 9 07:04:33 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 16:25:20 2013. Yes- you could also identify yourself as "Mr.A Train" or something similar and we'd know it's you :) |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 9 07:05:42 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 8 20:11:07 2013. I agree both in general principle and with the specific examples you've given... |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:05:06 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 9 07:04:33 2013. Yes, I have had for so many years been known as with either the names of "Mr. 'A' Train" and/or "Mr. R-10" that were basically given to me by other mass transit fans. It's a delight and honor be associated with that route and the cars when they were together.-William A. Padron ["190"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:06:11 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 9 07:01:36 2013. You're welcomed, MainR3664, and at anytime too!-William A. Padron ["Wash.Hts.-207th St."] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:13:38 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 03:15:28 2013. Yeah, I sure do...R-10 #3136, Church Avenue, IND Crosstown Line, Fan Trip, 6/8/1986; Photo by: Eric Oszustowicz, Collection of: Joe Testagrose. The cars used were #3136, 2966, 3101 and 3013. Yes, that is me in that picture... -William A. Padron ["B'klyn-Queens Lcl."] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:15:18 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 03:01:58 2013. Thanks, renee gil and Bill From Maspeth!-William A. Padron ["Wash.Hts.-6th Av.Lcl."] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:20:21 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 8 17:21:05 2013. Agreed!-William A. Padron ["Fulton-Lefferts Blvd." or "Mott Av.-Far Rockaway"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:32:38 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:13:38 2013. Oh, the fan trip route started within the 10:00am hour and ended at 59th Street-Columbus Circle around 5:00pm or so, and the train went on 6th Avenue-Manhattan, Houston-Essex Streets, Smith Street-Culver express track, West End, 4th Avenue-Brooklyn, Montague Street, Nassau-Centre Streets, Broadway-Brooklyn, Myrtle Avenue and the Chrystie Street Cut. Lunch stop was at Coney Island.The 1st Green R-10 Fantrip: June 8, 1986. -William A. Padron ["10\Myrtle Ave."] |
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