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Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:19:46 2005

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I just found this photo in the new photo section at nycsubway.org of Metro Ave. This must've been just before the station burned.
When I think of the M line of my childhood, this is the image I can see. Those R27-30's are EXACTLY the way I remember them.



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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:21:02 2005, in response to Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:19:46 2005.

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Sniff----sniff----

Man do I miss those R30 wrecks:



Again, in the "scheme" that brings me back to childhood immediately.

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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:21:16 2005, in response to Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:19:46 2005.

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Funny to look at the left and no sign of the Mall.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:21:20 2005, in response to Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:19:46 2005.

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Looks like the pre-Metro Mall days.

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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:22:23 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:21:20 2005.

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Definately.


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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:23:08 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:21:02 2005.

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Park Place?

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:24:05 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:21:20 2005.

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Yup, it says 1979.
Just two years later, this taken in 1981, it has the new station, but my old ***sniff***sniff**** friends still look the same:



Ahhh, the orange doors, the only one door opening in half the doorways, the grafittied interiors and windows, ****sniff****

The #10....that must've been rare in 1981, I don't EVER remember seeing that. I have seen MM in all different colors, etc, but never "10".

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:24:53 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:21:02 2005.

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I always though it was a sign that your line didn't mean much if these cars ran on them. Rarely did you see them outside the eastern division. I only rode them on the B and R. They were semi-regular on the R (Broadway) and a rare sight on the B.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:25:33 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:23:08 2005.

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Yup, in all it's decrepit quaint glory.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:26:12 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:24:05 2005.

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Looks like another staged Zabel photo.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:26:28 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:24:05 2005.

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I think this one is taken on the Christ The King High School side, the Metro Mall building was definitely there by 1981, although it was TSS back then.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:29:48 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:24:53 2005.

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They were the mainstay of the Eastern Division. I also rode them on the R once or twice though. The M was probably the most colorful line. I have ridden every current 60 foot car the system had back then except the R10's. Everything from the R16 to the R42 the M had back then, although at various times it was 100% R27-30 or 100% R16, depending on the year you go back to.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:32:21 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:26:12 2005.

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Oh yeah....duh (I just noticed it), the real M rollsign is lying on the platform....the least he should have done is taken his bag and the real rollsign out of the photo's view!

It doesn't appear to be a fantrip, just a "typical" run he was waiting to leave at Metro Ave one day.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:32:52 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:25:33 2005.

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I wasn't sure at first because I thought the shuttle switched over to the N/B track closer to Prospect Park.
Then I noticed the hospital in the back ground. Didn't the hospital close recently and they're turning the building into condo or something?

Maybe it was at Park Place there was the enclosed toilet for employees.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:34:35 2005, in response to Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:19:46 2005.

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The new photos are KILLING me!

More R30's in the "proper scheme" for happy memories:



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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:35:15 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:25:33 2005.

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At least Metropolitan Ave. still exists. The portion of the system which makes me go *sniff* was robbed replaced by a subway:


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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:35:52 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:26:28 2005.

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Christ the King HS is to the left behind the trees.

Wasn't Robert Hall or Robert Hall Village also there at one time?

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:36:43 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:35:52 2005.

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Yes, it was built as Robert Hall Village. You are probably right, it probably wasn't TSS until around 1982, but it definitely was from that time on.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:39:54 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:35:15 2005.

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Yeah, at least "my" metropolitan still exists, and although I vaguely remember it as wood, it looks exactly like I remember it today for the most part. (Most of my memories are from the new station) there.
I only rode the Jamaica El a few times before it was abanoned. Actually, 160th, the photo you posted, was my father's Aunt's station. We would occasionally get off there to go to her house.

GREAT photo.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:41:23 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:34:35 2005.

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Yup.

Gotta give props to Joe Testagrose, who posts these photos to the alt.binaries.pictures.rail newsgroup. That's where Dave gets them.



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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:43:18 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:39:54 2005.

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It was my desktop screensaver before my 'puter had a stroke.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:48:37 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:41:23 2005.

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Thanks! I never even looked at that site before.

More sniffing:



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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:49:33 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:36:43 2005.

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It's been so long I don't remember which was there first.

A while ago I was refering to my:
Top 10 List: How you know you've been working for TA too long."

The top 2 would be:
2) You go to the pick room to select a 5 day job and you're reminded of Robert Hall's slogan. Select, don't settle!"

And the #1 way you've been working for TA too long:
1) You remember Robert Hall!

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:52:55 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:41:23 2005.

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Here's a good photo of the old IND tiles at Broad St:



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Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:59:08 2005, in response to Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:52:55 2005.

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I didn't see the pic.
But I have seen the tiles at Broad and at Fulton.
Are (Were) the tile colors connected with the IND tile color pattern?

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Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 15:03:00 2005, in response to Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:59:08 2005.

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Hmmm, I guess they don't let you hotpost photos.
Can you see it with this link?

http://download.usenet-replayer.com/1/6/9/0/1121860961.33.jpg

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 15:10:09 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:23:08 2005.

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Hey, I thought Park Pl. was semi-underground; depressed! The last time I rode it, it was. That's where you can change for the IRT; That's also where the current layout single-tracks North of the station - having to wait for the other train in the hole to clear.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by VictorM on Thu Jul 28 15:11:03 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:49:33 2005.

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Sorry, "Select, don't settle!" was Barney's slogan.

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Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 15:18:51 2005, in response to Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 15:03:00 2005.

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Nada.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 15:19:48 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 15:10:09 2005.

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That's Botanic Garden. Park Place is a single track side platform station.

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Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 15:29:08 2005, in response to Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 15:18:51 2005.

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Oh well, I guess they don't let you link either, it was a cool photo, but it's somewhere in the Joe section. I don't even know what page it was on, but I clicked for all of Joes photos, and it was one of the first 10 pages that came up.

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Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 15:32:46 2005, in response to Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 15:18:51 2005.

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This link maybe?

http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/framebanner_3?http://www.usenet-replayer.com/1/6/9/0/1121860961.33.jpg

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 15:52:14 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 14:24:53 2005.

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The r27's practically personified the double-'R'. If it wasn't a 32 or a 42, it was a 27. I used to see them at Queensborough Plaza from the other side of the platform regularly. Just like the their stainless cousins, they have been all over the system - and I do mean all ( B division ). There is not a rail in the system that they did not touch. They weren't like th r10's who were - for the most part - too proud to run on the BMT. With that said, it was rather rare to see 27's anywhere on the IND; at least, during my time.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 15:54:06 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 15:19:48 2005.

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Oh, I see now, thanks.

R-32.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 15:59:31 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 28 15:19:48 2005.

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Wait a minute; you mean now Park Pl. is a single track side platform - with the reconstruction? Because, that's obviously not a side platform in that picture. That's clearly an island.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:00:22 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:21:16 2005.

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Which Mall?

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:03:10 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:24:05 2005.

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My words exactly! I've never, ever seen a 10. Only in books. Of course, I'm relatively young.

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Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:04:42 2005, in response to Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 15:32:46 2005.

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This link yes.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:07:28 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 15:10:09 2005.

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You're thinking Botannic Gardens.
That station is open cut.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:07:33 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:36:43 2005.

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Fill me in please. What's Robert Hall Village, and what's the 'TSS'?

Thanks.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:10:44 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 15:59:31 2005.

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When the Franklin Shuttle was rebuilt, Park Place Station was moved a block north and rebuilt from an island platform to a single track side platform.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:11:59 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by VictorM on Thu Jul 28 15:11:03 2005.

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Robert Hall used that slogan long before Barney's.

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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:16:13 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:00:22 2005.

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Metro Mall. Or whatever store is there across from Toys R Us.

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Kahlua on Thu Jul 28 16:16:19 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:07:33 2005.

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TSS = Times Square Stores

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:17:21 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:10:44 2005.

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I see thanks. The last time I took the shuttle, those r68's were slower than a tortoise. I could've walked faster. In fact, I think that second car was dead weight (motors cut out).

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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:20:56 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Kahlua on Thu Jul 28 16:16:19 2005.

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Robert Hall was a clothing store.
Back in the day it was where grade school kids got new clothes for Easter time. Robert Hall probably sold clothes for their parents and other adults as well. I would guess Robert Hall Village was what we'd now call a "superstore".

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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:24:41 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:17:21 2005.

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The last time I worked on the shuttle I worked the PM tour for a week at Park Place. I thought I was bidding on Park Place on the 2 line in Manhattan.

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Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:32:46 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:24:41 2005.

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LOL!! They got ya - sucker:-)

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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by Broadway Junction on Thu Jul 28 16:32:48 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:34:35 2005.

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Bah. This is the "proper scheme" as far as I'm concerned. :)
















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Re: Metropolitan Ave

Posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 16:33:35 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:20:56 2005.

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Thanks!

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