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R42 Pantograph Question |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Aug 7 19:33:22 2011 I noticed a weird oddity among the R42 fleet. Some cars have traditional pantograph gates on the front of the car while others have "bologna" springs similar to those on the R46s.Is there a reason for why some have pantographs vs. springs? For those who don't understand what I am talking about, here are examples of the two variations: With Pantograph Gates With Springs |
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Posted by mike cruz on Sun Aug 7 21:36:03 2011, in response to R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Aug 7 19:33:22 2011. Almost seems like the Pantograph gates might have been donated from R27-30 etc. or if the cars were SMS at 2 different locations, each shop did their own thing. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 7 23:17:59 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by mike cruz on Sun Aug 7 21:36:03 2011. Almost seems like the Pantograph gates might have been donated from R27-30 etc. or if the cars were SMS at 2 different locations, each shop did their own thing.The pantograph gates were supposedly salvaged from scrapped "arnines". Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 7 23:32:18 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 7 23:17:59 2011. I dunno ... looked at the photo from DJ and it doesn't work for me. I spent a lot of time between those puppies and I remember the top and bottoms being rather straight with the hand/knee grab welded on the top. So went and looked and I still don't buy it ... Maybe the bars, but definitely not the "swingy parts" ... the scissors part maybe ...
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 8 03:56:21 2011, in response to R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Aug 7 19:33:22 2011. Actually, the non pantograph gates are not bologna springs but safety chains similar to those that are hung between the cars by the end doors. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 06:59:48 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 7 23:32:18 2011. You're usually wrong about subway topics - which is ironic since you used to be a motorman. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 8 07:59:21 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 06:59:48 2011. Terrapin,why don't you enlighten us on some parts of your profession ,civil engineering, and talk about some worthwhile subjects, rather than tell everyone how stupid they are?I'm sure you could find a lot to contribute. |
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Posted by Terrapin station on Mon Aug 8 08:17:19 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 8 07:59:21 2011. What are you smoking??? Haven't your FRIENDS made it clear to you that I work in a mailroom and that I was fired several months ago?? Why do you think I have so much free time to post here and show how you are wrong?? How else could I have such a hold over all of you and this place?? You are so insensitive to bring up such a topic while the sting is still so raw :( |
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Posted by Alex L. on Mon Aug 8 08:54:42 2011, in response to R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Aug 7 19:33:22 2011. The pantograph gates are located at the #1 end of the car; the springs are located at the #2 end of the car. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 08:58:27 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 8 07:59:21 2011. Charles all you got from that nobody was a bunch of nonsense for a answer remember its US who tells you everything about him. He's so sorry its not even funny anymore.. |
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Posted by monorail on Mon Aug 8 09:41:03 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin station on Mon Aug 8 08:17:19 2011. ' and that I was fired several months ago??'how did THAT happen? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 09:41:54 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by monorail on Mon Aug 8 09:41:03 2011. Ask the one who wears the Pants in the family... |
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Posted by teddmann on Mon Aug 8 10:15:11 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 09:41:54 2011. >> Ask the one who wears the Pants in the family...Hey, that wasn't called for...oh, who am I kidding, of course it was!! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 8 10:18:19 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Alex L. on Mon Aug 8 08:54:42 2011. But why the difference? Both ends have an equal chance of being at the end of a consist ... |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Aug 8 10:53:27 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 09:41:54 2011. Or the highly respectable management at Stantac |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Aug 8 11:21:03 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 8 10:18:19 2011. Not when they're married pairs. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 13:03:37 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 08:58:27 2011. remember its US who tells you everything about him Isn't that exactly what I said, you idiot?? |
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Re:(LIVID) R42 Pantograph Question |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:11:00 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 8 07:59:21 2011. Somebody needs thier diaper changed ... |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Aug 8 13:24:22 2011, in response to Re:(LIVID) R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:11:00 2011. or their maxi-pad.... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:25:38 2011, in response to Re:(LIVID) R42 Pantograph Question, posted by LRG5784 on Mon Aug 8 13:24:22 2011. Yes it could be "That time of the month" again... |
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Posted by monorail on Mon Aug 8 13:54:19 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin station on Mon Aug 8 08:17:19 2011. 'Why do you think I have so much free time to post here'seems you have always had a lot of free time to post here..... |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Aug 8 16:57:53 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 7 23:32:18 2011. I dunno ... looked at the photo from DJ and it doesn't work for me. I spent a lot of time between those puppies and I remember the top and bottoms being rather straight with the hand/knee grab welded on the top. So went and looked and I still don't buy it ... Maybe the bars, but definitely not the "swingy parts" ... the scissors part maybe ...Obviously, the entire "arnine" pantograpg gate could not have been used. The scissors part of the gate and the long verticle plate with the rounded ends should be the original "arnine" pantograph gate. The two horizontal arms are not original, the top one more angular to compensate for the low R-40/42 windshield and route sign windows. I seen these gates in person and it looks like the new arms were added to the pantograph gate. They look welded. It doesn't look original. I wouldn't be surpised if Coney Island or 207th St shops thought of a way to retrofit the R-40/42s with these gates, saving money. The best evidence of this is to find any photos of piled up "arnines" being scrapped and see if their pantograph gates are missing. Ahh...that's it ! Bill Nerwkirk |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 8 18:09:24 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin station on Mon Aug 8 08:17:19 2011. 
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Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 8 18:09:41 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 13:03:37 2011.
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Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 8 18:10:13 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 06:59:48 2011.
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 8 18:11:40 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 8 18:09:41 2011. looks like Gammers Da Giant Turtle.chud1 |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 8 18:12:49 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Aug 8 18:09:41 2011. looks like Gammera Da Giant Turtle.chud1 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 8 18:28:20 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 09:41:54 2011. WARRANTED personal attack! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 8 19:53:51 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin station on Mon Aug 8 08:17:19 2011. Pssst ... wanna know WHY you got fired? You shoulda listened to the missus. It was your "social networking background check" that did you in. Google "Social Intelligence Corporation" ... heh.Your e-penis did you in, son. And it's gonna keep you out of action for a very long time. :) |
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Posted by Alex L. on Tue Aug 9 09:09:46 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 8 10:18:19 2011. The #2 end of a R42 can NEVER be at the end of a consist. It has no T/O controls and no vision glass (front window). |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Aug 9 11:08:49 2011, in response to R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Aug 7 19:33:22 2011. Remember that the R42 as delivered had NO pantograph gates. That means the gates you see on the cars were all added afterward, and retired subway cars seem to be a logical source for donors. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Tue Aug 9 11:39:54 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by monorail on Mon Aug 8 13:54:19 2011. So he did it from the mail room? That explains his two different posting handles exposed a few months back. |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Aug 9 11:39:54 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Alex L. on Tue Aug 9 09:09:46 2011. 'The #2 end of a R42 can NEVER be at the end of a consist.'it can be if the train is NOAT in customer service..... |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Aug 9 11:40:15 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by monorail on Tue Aug 9 11:39:54 2011. NOT in customer service..... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 9 11:42:59 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Alex L. on Tue Aug 9 09:09:46 2011. I was assuming you meant the #2 end as being the control cab of the R42's pair, not the middle of one. My bad. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Aug 10 12:58:11 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 8 19:53:51 2011. He thinks he's hot cow patties over on Broadband Reports, too...claims to be a super-genius web developer *and* restauranteur, and that his regularly visiting W3C and knowing people at Mozilla makes him the only authority on everything. He was pWn3D bigtime by some dude who has serious industry cred. |
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Re:(LIVID) R42 Pantograph Question |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Aug 10 12:59:40 2011, in response to Re:(LIVID) R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:25:38 2011. Joan Rivers swears by Fresca on the panty shield. She said that on TV once. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 10 13:21:35 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 8 19:53:51 2011. !How did you find out?1?! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 10 13:22:22 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Aug 10 12:58:11 2011. Why are you outing me?? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 10 13:33:58 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 8 19:53:51 2011. SIC is scary! "Once your employees know their online activities are being tracked, they are more likely to adhere to a social media policy". Creepy!In order to maintain employment these days, you have to consent to letting a third-party agency watch all of your social networking activity, and report that back to your employer? I can understand why businesses would want this, but it's STILL creepy... |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Aug 10 21:51:19 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 10 13:22:22 2011. you're 'gay'????????? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 10 21:54:23 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Aug 10 12:58:11 2011. Heh. I remember that. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 10 21:54:51 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 10 13:22:22 2011. I guess the same reason why the rest of us have all had our fill of you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 10 21:56:15 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Aug 8 16:57:53 2011. Yep ... it's entirely possible that the "scissors" parts might have been used (although they were pretty worn out on the arnines as it was) but definitely not the spring arm parts. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 10 21:59:59 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 06:59:48 2011. And you're a mail fail. Now THAT takes some doing! :) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 11 02:47:55 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by monorail on Wed Aug 10 21:51:19 2011. didnt you know?EVERYTHING about him is fake...the marriage..the "super smart guy" routine..etc.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 11 02:51:06 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 8 18:28:20 2011. is this another "jew hating "subthread? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 11 02:59:46 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 11 02:51:06 2011. Aren't they all? :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Aug 11 04:44:27 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by monorail on Wed Aug 10 21:51:19 2011. Please don't call him gay. We have enough PR problems as it is, without his ilk. 8-) |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Aug 11 05:45:05 2011, in response to Re: R42 Pantograph Question, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 11 02:47:55 2011. i apologize.. |
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