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Re: 76th thread on this non-subject? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 16:25:54 2011, in response to Re: 76th thread on this non-subject?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:22:34 2011. Maybe in the EDITED version. :)But they're TIGERS ... they do whatever they please ... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:26:18 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 16:20:22 2011. It will show rails, ties, walls, platforms, Jimmy Hoffa, and whatever else is down there.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 16:38:03 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:26:18 2011. Indeed it will. I've seen some mighty impressive pics from those things.A couple of years ago, a local earthquake resulted in a partial collapse at Howe Caverns, a nearby tourist trap. Before anyone went down to check out the damage, they were using one of those things to look a couple of hundred feet down. You could make out pebbles in the pics. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 16:46:49 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Fri Jan 28 17:47:35 2011. The question then becomes, how was the tunnel from Broadway Junction to Euclid Avenue built. Was it bored or was it built via cut and cover? There is little reason to believe that the tunnel south of Euclid Ave. would have been built any differently. There, then should be some record, photographic or otherwise, of Pitkin Ave being torn up east of Grant Ave to accommodate the building of the 76th St. Station. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:51:42 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 16:38:03 2011. Hey... I been to Howe Caverns, oh I must have been about 12 or so.I guess that was 50 years ago.
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:52:44 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 16:46:49 2011. Well, we KNOW the line crosses Conduit.
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 17:18:12 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 16:46:49 2011. it was built cut& cover,i,ve seen a photo of it in a back issue oy era`s ny bulletin.I can`t a photo of euclid ave being built,much less 76st. |
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Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened? |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 17:23:14 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 15:49:53 2011. I didn`t have a computer when that was posted.it was posted in responce to a list of stubs&abandoned stations that I gave to bmt guy to post for me.years later it was reposted,much to my delight as it was a great april fools day joke.This is why I posted a link to the Joseph Brennan USNET post of 03 31 2002 that started it all. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:42:48 2011, in response to Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 13:28:20 2011. John, that joke was made BECAUSE of the rumors, it's not what caused the rumors. |
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Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:44:44 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 29 13:31:36 2011. Exactly. That page has been around for years. That page isn't what caused the dispute, that page was made BECAUSE of the rumors, not the other way around. |
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Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:48:28 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 15:47:55 2011. He did well with the photo though. At quick glance, you can't tell that's an island platform station, the wall could be cropped out on the left, and you couldn't see the tracks on the side.It took a while, but someone found the original photo at 7th Ave which he used. |
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Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:48:55 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 14:50:08 2011. That's a tiger, not a lion! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:51:06 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 15:25:21 2011. Yes. But it is not the same thing as 76th St. If 76th St was built, it wasn't built as a "provision" to future expansion, it was being built BECAUSE they were still continuing at that time. SOuth 4th was always a provision for the future, and they built exactly what they wanted to build. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 17:52:10 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 17:23:14 2011. so,am I owed an apology for something I didn`t do? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:52:41 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 16:46:49 2011. Pitkin Ave didn't even exist at 76th st and the adjoining blocks at the time of the construction, the main road was just slightly north, the alignment of Old South Rd. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:54:06 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 29 12:23:08 2011. If you could prove a tunnel, then it's very likely the shell is there in that tunnel, as that tunnel would have been built with that station in the plans. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:55:33 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:51:42 2011. I was in it when I was about 10 back in the early 80's. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 17:55:49 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:48:55 2011. Yes and the tiger's name is Ramu.He and I are special friends. How many tigers are YOU on a first name basis with?
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 18:04:53 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:51:06 2011.   |
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Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened? |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 18:06:44 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 17:55:49 2011. tiger woods the detroit tigers,tiger balm. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 18:14:03 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:52:44 2011. Yes we do! A segment heading east to Grant Ave just north of Pitkin Ave and a segment that turns south into Pitkin Yard. There is also the segment that runs north & then east from Pitkin Yard to Liberty Ave. that also crosses the Conduit. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 18:15:56 2011, in response to PROFF: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 18:04:53 2011. See - now we know that this is a doctored photo because as everyone knows, 76St had 4 tracks. But that is very nice work, none the less even if you left out the third rail :() |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 18:22:13 2011, in response to 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jan 28 13:58:35 2011. I would consider participating in a definitive study & possible exploration of this subject commencing in the spring provided the group is small in size, serious minded, and has something to bring to the table other that a strong back for digging. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 18:27:42 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:51:42 2011. Heh. There's less of it now than there used to be. Mining operation to the west punched through one end, couple of quakes took care of some more of it. But it's still there, it's still pretty cool (at 50 degrees ALL year round down there) and a great place to go on a stinking hot day. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 18:29:07 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 17:23:14 2011. Just so you know ... the 76th Street phenom had gone on with every bit as much steam as now for years prior to Joe's posting. He just ran with it and had some fun busting chops on everybody else with it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 29 18:36:27 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 17:55:49 2011. How many tigers are YOU on a first name basis with?How did you get the tiger to say your first name? |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 18:38:16 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 18:22:13 2011. i,m in. |
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Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened? |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 18:40:41 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 29 18:36:27 2011. RRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 18:50:16 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by arnine on Sat Jan 29 14:59:37 2011. Trust me, I was pissed off on 12/12 train ride when I heard that he rode only a few stops and got off before I got there. I wanted him to say something to my face. I was not planning to hit him since I would lose my job. But I wanted to see what he had to say. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 29 18:51:26 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 18:50:16 2011. I wasn't Pissed just a missed opportunity. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 29 18:52:31 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 17:23:14 2011. WRONG!!! As myself and others have been trying to tell you the rumors existed long before the April fool's joke was ever posted. The joke was posted because of the ALREADY EXISTING controversy. The joke did not create the controversy.In fact there was an article about 76th Street in a New York Division Electric Railroaders Association Bulletin. How about reading THIS DISCUSSION which occurred in 2001. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 18:56:05 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 18:50:16 2011. Remind me to tell you a good story related to .............. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 18:58:18 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 18:56:05 2011. OK. I would say call me but I can't send you my phone number. I guess one day I might have to stop by and talk. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 29 18:59:26 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 18:56:05 2011. All ears Steve since we was both there that day i heard a few stories as well.... |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 29 19:03:54 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:51:06 2011. To clarify the point being made here: The portion of South 4 Street above the existing in-use subway could have been built without staircases to the street, because presumably those staircases will be located in the currently unbuilt portions if and when they are constructed. That is certainly the way I would have done it. 76 Street is different because there would be no reason to leave the staircases for last in what was presumably intended to be complete construction for use in the near future. However-- no one really seems to know the complete history of the station or the precise intentions of its designers and builders, so perhaps no more than a shell without entrances was built for possible use in the then-distant future. All we know for sure is that provisions (switches, signals, tracks, model board) were clearly left for an extension at least as far as 76 St. |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Jan 29 19:04:41 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 18:50:16 2011. He wouldn't say anything to your face. He is OK in real life. On here he picks on you and most others here because he can hide behind his keyboard |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 29 19:06:31 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by arnine on Sat Jan 29 19:04:41 2011. Meh.... |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 19:06:56 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by arnine on Sat Jan 29 19:04:41 2011. I would have asked him to say what he say to me here. Then when he did not I would have had a reason to call him a coward to his face. Thats all. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 19:08:19 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 18:58:18 2011. Would be my pleasure |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 19:09:41 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 29 19:08:19 2011. I know, I the Bomb. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 29 19:10:41 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 19:09:41 2011. I know, I the Bomb.More like a Dud if you ask me.... |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 19:13:27 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 17:52:10 2011. so,am I owed an apology for something I didn`t do?Absolutely Not. You started this thread on information you did not have. I gave you the information that no one else would. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 19:15:53 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 18:29:07 2011. Yes, it came up on Subtalk in 1999. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 19:16:12 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 18:29:07 2011. Just so you know ... the 76th Street phenom had gone on with every bit as much steam as now for years prior to Joe's posting. He just ran with it and had some fun busting chops on everybody else with it.Thank you. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 19:22:14 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 19:13:27 2011. john,I knew this info already. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 29 19:26:09 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 19:15:53 2011. I believe that was the year it was published in a New York Division ERA bulletin - I need to go through my collection of bulletins to find it someday |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Jan 29 19:26:57 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jan 29 19:06:56 2011. That's a good plan :) |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 19:27:02 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 29 18:52:31 2011. Regardless of of where or when controversy started. It is my belief that the station does not existed. If it did there would be several people still alive that would remember its construction. There would be records of its construction in the archives of various city and state agencies.John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 29 19:29:11 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:54:06 2011. "If you could prove a tunnel, then it's very likely the shell is there in that tunnel, as that tunnel would have been built with that station in the plans.If we could prove a tunnel, perhaps it would be worth digging to get the necessary photographs. If the radar sled shows nothing at all, then why bother digging? |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 19:30:20 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 19:27:02 2011. good,you find the records&the people,i,ve done more than my fair share in research. |
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