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Posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010 SOAC Cars at Cleveland Ohio. 10/29/1974 Enjoy! 35mm Slide Scan J. Barnes |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 4 02:33:53 2010, in response to Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010. Those look like pimped out R44s. Nice pic, you got any pics of their interior? |
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Posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:39:11 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 4 02:33:53 2010. Nope, but NYCSUBWAY.org has Here |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 4 03:15:56 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 4 02:33:53 2010. Those look like pimped out R44sThey were apparently based on the R44. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 4 06:10:12 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:39:11 2010. I was very disappointed that I never got to ride one on NYCTA.Of course, info was hard to find, no www! I was out there one day when it was supposed to run on the D, but it neve showed up. I was waiting for it at Atlantic Ave. for 4 hours! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 4 06:28:44 2010, in response to Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010. Nice!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Dec 4 08:26:04 2010, in response to Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010. Nice pic :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Dec 4 11:09:08 2010, in response to Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010. Whose cars are behind it? |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Dec 4 11:34:21 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:39:11 2010. the guy in the photo looks like he is doing a hitler imatation."und der fuerer says" |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Dec 4 12:08:47 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by 3-9 on Sat Dec 4 11:09:08 2010. Cleveland? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 4 12:10:43 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by 3-9 on Sat Dec 4 11:09:08 2010. Whose cars are behind it?The RTA's Red Line "Blue Bird" cars.  |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 4 12:56:59 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:39:11 2010. Tables? Carpeting? This would never have survived the later part of the 70's. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 4 12:58:12 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by monorail on Sat Dec 4 12:08:47 2010. 
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Dec 4 14:36:37 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 4 12:58:12 2010. A cartoon flatbush fatz. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 4 18:03:22 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 4 06:10:12 2010. damn that sux |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 4 18:04:24 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 4 02:33:53 2010. That's because it is an R-44... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 4 18:05:29 2010, in response to Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010. cool 35mm Slide Scan |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 18:45:01 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 4 06:10:12 2010. I was very disappointed that I never got to ride one on NYCTA.I forget the year but I briefly rode it in Philly on The Broad St. subway. IIRC it was around 1980'ish. I was up front and saw the control cab. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Dec 4 18:54:08 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 18:45:01 2010. I rode it on PATCO unexpectedly on my way home from work. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 18:54:28 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 18:45:01 2010. I just looked it up. So it was 1975. My apologies.Must have had a baby sitter for my 2 yr.son. The operational demonstration and evaluation phase of the SOAC program started when the cars arrived in New York City on April 18, 1974, and ended with the completion of the Philadelphia demonstration on April 30, 1975. Pertinent statistics from the 5-city operation are given in Table I. TABLE I. SUMMARY OF CITY DEMONSTRATIONS NYCTA New York MBTA Boston CTS Cleveland CTA Chicago SEPTA Philadelphia Total Revenue Service Days 30 22 15 13 24 104 Round Trips Made 86 176 85 149 121 617 Car Availability (Percent) 70 99 88 100 95 92 Estimated Passenger Count 100,000 125,000 20,000 7,500 60,000 312,000 Miles in Service 5,680 4,730 4,217 1,968 3,000 19,595 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 18:58:12 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by chuchubob on Sat Dec 4 18:54:08 2010. That is so cool. So in 1975? |
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Posted by aaron on Sat Dec 4 19:08:23 2010, in response to Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010. I rode it in NYC at the ripe age of 16!!! |
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Posted by aaron on Sat Dec 4 19:09:22 2010, in response to Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:32:08 2010. And it lives on forever at the Seashore Trolley Museum... |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Dec 4 19:09:33 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 18:58:12 2010. I have no idea when it was; whenever SOAC was in the area.I commuted on PATCO/MFSE/P&W from 1972 to 1987. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 19:13:22 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by chuchubob on Sat Dec 4 19:09:33 2010. Thanks! I'm guessing by that fact sheet I copied and pasted posted, it was 1975.I guess someone will tell me, if I was in error. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 4 19:36:51 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by aaron on Sat Dec 4 19:09:22 2010. So it does, I forgot about that.SOAC |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Dec 4 20:18:51 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 4 18:04:24 2010. Not quite an R-44 per se, but definitely the R-44 design with extensive enhancements some of which were used on the R-46. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Dec 4 20:51:05 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 4 02:33:53 2010. The interiors of the 2 cars in the unit were different. One car as was shown in the NYCsubway.org photo was arranged with carpets and padded seats arranged for commuter rail operation. The other was arranged like an R-44 style rapid transit cars. The body design was based on the R-44 with certain enhancements and could be pantograph equipped which they were, for use in Cleveland and Chicago. The idea was to produce a standard car body design which could be cheaply produced and used by most transit systems and commuter railroads in the US. Of course, certain transit systems like Chicago and the Boston Blue Line couldn't use the car design in its entirety due to clearance considerations and when it was used in Chicago, it was restricted to the Skokie Swift which had the platforms at Dempster and a portion of the platform at Howard modified to clear it. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Dec 4 22:16:28 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by JBar387 on Sat Dec 4 02:39:11 2010. Nope, but NYCSUBWAY.org has HereAnd here's what it looks like now: 
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Dec 4 22:44:02 2010, in response to Re: Photo: SOAC, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Dec 4 22:16:28 2010. Wow, where is it now? This reminds me a lot of the WMATA railcars. |
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