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Re: Photos: California Soul - MUNI Metro

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jun 12 23:23:41 2008, in response to Re: Photos: California Soul - MUNI Metro, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 12 21:19:03 2008.

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I don't find the J sketchy.

Since I'm not familiar with the Bay Area, I was probably a bit more cautious than usual, so I tended to over hype claims of sketchiness.

The point of the screen is seeing which routes are approaching.

It makes sense after looking at the screen and realizing that the numbers stand for the number of cars, and that the line letters are posted above or below the station.

the extension east of the Emb Station was built @ phenomenal cost WITHOUT a loop

Just out of curiosity, what was the original design of the end of the line before the extension to 4th & King? Given the characteristics of the line, a loop seems like a rather sensible idea since three of the "five" lines turn at Embarcadero. Were there other plans for an extension of the tunnel?

Not only did the ATCS constantly fail

I've always wondered why ATC systems fail or have issues on older systems, while newer systems work with few issues.

Meanwhile mgmt was sold the fantasy that Alcatel ATCS would fix everything

I don't know how MUNI determined that a new signaling system would solve their troubles. I'm probably biased and pulling this out of my ass, but MUNI seemed to have entirely dismissed the idea of simply running longer trains on their network. Given the heavy crowding that I noted during peak runs, I'm amazed that MUNI doesn't run with three car sets on each line. The downtown stations appear to be able to support such lengths.

IMHO, MUNI should really consider ordering single ended fleets with an open gangway at the end that can be combined into two car units. The removal of the cabs should remove unnecessary components and free up space for passengers.

Current: Cab-Cab + Cab-Cab
My Proposal: Cab-cabless+cabless-Cab

A photo illustrating my point from Hannover.

As to double berthing, seems to be a software issue.

It seems that MUNI ended up with the worst ATC system in the world. Hell, despite an ATC system the Twin Peaks Tunnel is inexcusably slow...

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