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Re: Photos: California Soul - MUNI Metro

Posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Fri Jun 13 09:59:23 2008, in response to Re: Photos: California Soul - MUNI Metro, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jun 13 02:16:13 2008.

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Almost every Muni Metro station is as long as the BART stations below them, but the trains pull up to the very front end of each station. Having two trains in a station isn't necessary because no one would know where to wait, and trains are almost always 2 minutes apart. If the station is 750 feet long and the train is 100 feet long, having two random lines in there simultaneously would cause chaos.

Also, in defense of the Mission District, 24 & Mission is just a working class an interesting neighborhood. 16 & Mission is scarier looking, which is not to say dangerous during the day. My 23-yr-old daughter was recently at 16/Mission for something and was propositioned about 15 times (seriously), but no one threatened her. Finally the J-Church route is a couple of blocks to the west which is noticeably nicer. I think building those two stations for BART was bribe construction to be allowed to go through SF. Make believe it's not only for East Bay commuters; build a couple of stations in the Missions District and allow the monthly MUNI pass to work from there to downtown.

The T route along Third Street is just mostly industrial and working class; I've ridden it at night and never felt the slightest bit unnerved. Even the gross-out Tenderloin next to downtown is not so dangerous, just very creepy looking.

Also, before the extension east of Embarcadero was built, I think the MUNI Metro tunnel just ended and trains shuffled around to reverse direction, just as they do now.

Finally: The hilliest part of SF is the famous area north of Geary or Market and east of Van Ness. A subway is hard to build because if it's a mere 10 feet below ground at one block, it's 100 feet below ground 2 blocks later. And ordinary streetcars could be hard to run because they would skid in the rain downhill and get stuck going uphill. That's why cable cars were used. The F line runs around the hills along the Embarcadero. I only wish the F line ran twice as many cars, even if they had to buy (Horrors!) relatively new cars like those in Philadelphia; sometimes it is so crowded, that there truly isn't room for even one more person.

Did you notice the different two-note piano sounds and those automated voices announcing trains, like low C-lower G "Inbound M, M to Embarcardero in 3 minutes", meaning a two car M train, and middle C, middle E, "Outbound N Judah in 7 minutes".

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