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Re: The subway during the 1970's, how bad did it really get?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 23 20:01:16 2005, in response to Re: The subway during the 1970's, how bad did it really get?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 22 18:36:43 2005.

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What I remember most in 1981 on the BMT were the R40 cars that I rode before they were overhauled and virtually none of them had any functional air-conditioning. It was like sitting in the sauna at Jack LaLanne's (now Bally's) except you had your clothes on and were going to work. It was hell.

No one mentioned the passenger rebellions. Trains were breaking down so frequently that you were often asked to vacate the train more than once on your trip home. Each time it meant waiting for one or two trains to pass before you could get into another one. After a few months of this, passengers were refusing to get off delaying the trains sometimes up to fifteen minutes until the police were called and threatened to arrest you if you didn't leave, which they occasionally did. Other times the train would comtinue in service with the few passengers who refused to leave and the people who got off were furious!

If you think I'm exaggerating, I'm not. I was involved in a study at the time trying to coordinate the buses at Flatbush / Nostrand with the arriving trains between 6 and 8 PM. We found the buses were leaving half empty but couldn't understand why. So we got the records from Rapid Transit. It showed half the trains leaving Woodlawn and White Plains Road on three separate randomly chosen weekdays never arrived at Flatbush Avenue! They were abandoned somewhere on route!

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