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Re: Retired R46's

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 13 14:01:57 2024, in response to Re: Retired R46's, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 13 12:45:49 2024.

Definitely.

As I said in a previous post,the Jamaica Line was an intricate part of the planned SAS network, and would have been modified to "IND" standards.

Several areas along the route were in desperate need of modernization, upgrades, relocation and remodeling tight curves.

The Eastern elevated lines were originally tight quartered EL equipment comparable to IRT type cars.

The Standard changed that,but didn't totally address the clearance issue structurally.

The cost of rebuilding the east was questionable, but what really stopped the TA,was the plan relocation of the El in City Line/Cypress Hills.

One thing that the TA should have known, is you bully folks,they will push back.

The city wanted to condemn large portions of homes to create a new path for the Jamaica lines realignment..add a third track,soften the curves at Alabama Ave, modify all express stations to fit longer 10 car trains,move interlocking,soften the clearance along the Williamsburg Bridge, rebuild Essex st so the LoMEX would wind around it, platform extensions along the Nassau loop for Second Avenue subway trains,which would swap places with downtown Eastern Division services at Bowery..

This,Alone,was a Capital Project, costing millions of dollars,which the city clearly didn't have.

When projects attached to this plan fell through,along with Robert Moses interference,and Nimby protests,most of the developments were stopped cold..
The third track project ended at the ramp leading up to Alabama Avenue station.

None of the structural work was carried out to rebuild or relocate the original el over Fulton st.

No work on the Willy B,no LoMex.
No SAS connection, but the tunnel to the downtown Nassau loop portion Was partially built,along with the connection to Houston St.
Provision was built for the SAS, hidden.

The new MTA decided that rebuilding the Eastern Division was a bit much, and cancelled the program.
However,they did offer to build a new route further into Jamaica for the Jamaica El in two phases,as a subway under Archer Ave..closer to the Long Island Railroad station.

This line would be a hub route, with trains from 63rd st and Queens Bypass express service to south Jamaica at Springfield Blvd... and Queens Village.

The MTA was in trouble.
The Rob Peter to pay Paul tactic caught up with them,
They practically commented criminal activities, massive amounts of fraud,kickbacks, and other illegal acts caused the funding to "disappear".

Mismanagement,some racial bias and other reasons played a terrible hand in in the development of the Archer Avenue route, causing the Federal government to get involved.

The project was stopped cold, just like the 63rd st line.

When work resumed, the MTA decided to build as much as it could for what was left of government funding, and çomplete all programs at a later date.

Future provisions were provided within the tunnels for services further east and south east on both lines.
10 car length platforms were built on both levels for the future.

As time pasted by, the Archer line dropped in priority, and the MTA made various service improvements to bus lines and LIRR routes to adjust.

The Jamaica line has seen various improvements over the years, including structural to replace the various steel bents and truss holding up the el.
Station improvements,new signals, and new tracking.

New railcars, modern and sleek have replaced the old SMEE equipment.

Things may not have turned out according to plan, but the line is doing ok in any case.

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