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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 27 00:55:38 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Oct 26 19:27:13 2014.

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"...unsure if there was ever real inclusive ban on wooden cars."

In practice, with all the operational exceptions cited, it sure doesn't sound like it.

Everything I have heard about the ban over the years, has all been second hand and verbal - so it almost sounds as though it's anecdotal history.

Various people have spoken about the Composites' situation, and say 'from then on...' re: the ban. Others say the same, and then add, 'but it was only after Malbone St. that..." re: the ban. So, y'know, go figure...

Again, only verbally, I was told the BU's could operate to Main St. since they had more metal in either/or their trucks or overall design.

Most of the people who would know the facts are gone now, with the exception of Bernie Linder, and maybe a few others. I wonder how much Jeff H. might know?

On one of the Q fantrips, '69 or '70, we operated as far as Delancy St., but were told we couldn't go any further.

But when the BU's rebuilt from Q's were running on fantrips, during the '70s, Roger Arcara told me that a couple of times, when the trip included the Astoria Line, (I think) the Q's/BU's operated through the entire Broadway subway from Delancy St. up to the Queensboro Bridge, with passengers (railfans). And he added, that doing that was kind of cheating and, that it was either kept quiet or was an 'open secret.'

When the three volume Cunningham DeHart set was reissued Joe Cunningham came to an NY Div meeting. We spoke for awhile and kept in touch for a bit afterwards. I can probably give him a call sometime. He's a nice guy.

I heard about the Cunningham/DeHart history when I was still up in Boston, and was told it was long out of print. So when I got back to NY, and heard about the re-issue I got my hands on it real fast.
Thanks again. If I am able to find out anymore information about this I'll let you know.


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