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Re: Germany facing ''epidemic'' of fare evasion (POP doesn't work)

Posted by WillD on Sat Feb 4 18:41:22 2012, in response to Re: Germany facing ''epidemic'' of fare evasion (POP doesn't work), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 4 14:47:55 2012.

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Well WADR, your opinion goes against reality. Nothing is served at all with POP, except for farebeaters that organize either online or via the phone.

Ditto. Your hysterics over this article aside, that same strategy can easily be applied to any other fare collection system. Hell, it wouldn't be difficult for online organizers to pinpoint conductors on crowded trains so as to allow fare evaders to avoid them and ride free.

And how are you going to implement barrier control on FRA railroads that are at grade, especially where the station platforms start at grade crossings?

It's already proof of payment. After all, conductor based fare control systems are just the most overbearing form of proof of payment fare control. That is especially true as NJT implements their commuter rail fare collection with almost all sales through TVMs, and onerous fees for onboard purchases throughout much of the system. It's just more efficient on a lower headway transit system to remove the onboard fare collection officer (or conductor if you prefer) and group them so they can more thoroughly inspect tickets on trains as they pass a given point on the railroad.

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