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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 8 19:00:30 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU threatens "war" with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 8 18:27:30 2012. Failure to sign a treaty can never be equivalent to a declaration of war. If it were, the treaty wouldn't be needed. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jan 8 19:37:42 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU threatens "war" with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 8 18:27:30 2012. England has enough brown people in it now to justify war against them! |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 20:36:55 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU threatens "war" with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 8 18:27:30 2012. And so goes national sovereignty when first you subscribe to overly ambitious treaty organizations.No one thinks of Europe as a superpower except, of course, the Europeans. Orwell had it right, Oceania (the English-speaking world) is a community of interest. Eurasia (aka the EU) has different interests. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 20:38:01 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 8 18:56:03 2012. and pass the ammunition. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 8 20:40:41 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 20:38:01 2012. Wouldn't that be "admonition?" :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 8 20:49:05 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 20:36:55 2012. No, the EU is very interested in power, which it shares with Oceania. Rememeber O'Brien's speech, "Power is not a means; it is an end . . . the object of power is power"? |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 20:52:39 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 8 20:49:05 2012. We are at war with EUrasia. We've always been at war with EUrasia. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU is *this close* to bringing down US/global economy |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Jan 8 20:54:24 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU is *this close* to bringing down US/global economy, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 3 03:06:59 2011. Italy has been at even higher debt than what it is now, during the 90s they hovered around 120%. Fear is driving a lot of this, which compounds the situation, including ratings agencies. Makes bonds more expensive, makes it harder to pay off, its a suicidal cycle to pay off debt, its cheaper and less painful to abandon the Euro, declare default, and rebuild your currency which will be cheap allowing for cheaper exporting which will allow manufacturing to come back. 2.5 trillion is a bitter pill to swallow but overall for Italy its the best scenario. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 8 20:56:05 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 20:52:39 2012. And Winston Smith will cover it for FOX. :) |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 21:14:05 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 8 20:56:05 2012. On the LIVE!! from Room 101 show now featuring dancing, singing rats, |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 8 21:25:15 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 21:14:05 2012. Nah ... if FOX is gonna do it, it'll only go Geraldo style. :( |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 21:35:13 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 8 21:25:15 2012. That looks more like the WWWF-World Wrestling Wrat Foundation. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 8 21:40:01 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 8 21:35:13 2012. Geraldo seems to bring that out in everybody. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 9 05:33:44 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 8 20:56:05 2012. The Ministry of Truth: We report, we decide. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 9 05:40:10 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatens ''war'' with Britain if another veto is cast against treaty, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 9 05:33:44 2012. Indeed ... as an aside ... are you at Rutgers in Newark? I noticed a tie-in at linkedin, and didn't offer a connect until I could find out for real ... |
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EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into "No. 1 bank" in Italy |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 10 18:02:23 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. Reuters
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 10 18:58:25 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into "No. 1 bank" in Italy, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 10 18:02:23 2012. I'd take the Mafia over Goldman any day. |
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EUEUEUEUEU crisis benefiting Germany greatly (and nobody else) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 10 22:50:05 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. Der Spiegel
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Posted by JayMan on Wed Jan 11 08:20:59 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 10 18:58:25 2012. LOL! Damn. The devil you know? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 11 09:06:46 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 10 18:58:25 2012. you beat me to it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 11 13:26:35 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 10 18:58:25 2012. Yup, and they'd take you to the concrete shoemaker if you "defaulted". Goldman at least wouldn't do that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 11 16:13:03 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy, posted by JayMan on Wed Jan 11 08:20:59 2012. The Mafia at least has SOME ethical code. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 11 16:14:31 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 11 13:26:35 2012. Correct. Goldman merely puts you out on the street and makes sure that nobody will ever loan you money again, nor rent you an apartment because your credit rating has been destroyed. You sure do live in one whacky fantasy world, yo ... Mafia will at least let you work things out to everyone's benefit. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 11 16:19:57 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU crisis makes Mafia into ''No. 1 bank'' in Italy, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 11 09:06:46 2012. Poor Olog ... he needs some "friends in Pennsylvania" ... :) |
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EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 12 02:26:02 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. Yup, they've made it back from cyberdeath. Given their predictions here, I do have to wonder if the cyberattack credited to "anonymous" had some governmental backers in certain countries . . . ?
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 12 02:30:18 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 12 02:26:02 2012. Gee ... if only Stratfor, known for "security" issues, only had some competent people who knew about "security" they wouldn't have been gone so long. But now that they're back, their next attack seems imminent. And looks like the "hackers" were in INDIA. Everybody's software and antivirus is managed in India these days, and so ... :)And the Indian government's "security" ... LOL We've been quite busy over at infosecisland.com writing about it all. Stratfor ... LOL |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 12 02:32:54 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 12 02:30:18 2012. Oh ... and if you happen to go over there, that guy in the blue shirt against the stone wall with the shit-eating grin? That's me. :) |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 12 02:34:59 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 12 02:26:02 2012. As to the economics matters, if only they'd listened to Krugman. But you and your pals keep selling him as a commie, so reap the whirlwind of your political garbage ... USA is NEXT for this shit. :(Betcha Stratfor won't say THAT though. :( |
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EUEUEUEUEU and their Tobin Tax . . . (long) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 12 03:16:29 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. Rather draconian idea, and it's only intended to enrich people at the top rather than to fix anything.Der Spiegel
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 12 09:08:10 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU per 57R47F0R's 2012 forecast, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 12 02:26:02 2012. HAHA!!STRATFOR!!! I think some random ChixWithDix website is safer than that. |
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EUEUEUEUEU gets *big credit downgrade*Brussels, Beijing slam ratings agencies |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 14 12:28:12 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. So the ratings agencies ought to just go after the "Anglosphere" and leave them untouched. Oh, those hypocrites. (S&P downgraded nine countries.)EurActiv
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EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over "land grab" of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 04:43:39 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. . . . but of course they try to redefine it as "Palestinian farmland" when no Palestinians were farming it and it was designated as being under full Israeli civilian and military control under the Oslo Accords. The EU is an antisemitic empire.EU Observer
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 08:46:16 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over "land grab" of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 04:43:39 2012. Much of the world, and Europe in particular, feels it has the right to specify where Jews can live and even whether Jews can live. This hasn't changed since the Middle Ages; hasn't changed since the Holocaust. Europe is nearly Judenrein, isn't that enough for them? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 16 10:14:52 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 08:46:16 2012. Europeans may be a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to criticizing Israel. But that doesn't justify the West Bank settlements. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 13:57:54 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by AlM on Mon Jan 16 10:14:52 2012. It is none of Europe's business. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 14:05:51 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by AlM on Mon Jan 16 10:14:52 2012. What are you BSing about? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 14:08:24 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 13:57:54 2012. Precisely. Ain't they sounding like they're gearing up for a crusade with this rhetoric? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 14:18:11 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 13:57:54 2012. Then why is it yours? |
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EUEUEUEUEU Commission now says they know better than the ratings agencies |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 14:20:29 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU gets *big credit downgrade*Brussels, Beijing slam ratings agencies, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 14 12:28:12 2012. They claim to have info that the ratings agencies don't. But they say it'd take too much time to make available . . .EU Observer
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 14:36:09 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 14:18:11 2012. Brilliant retort, rebbe. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 14:48:35 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 14:18:11 2012. He's not Europe. You saying it should be Europe's business at all? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 15:19:43 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 14:48:35 2012. Is he any less of an outsider than Europe? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 15:19:55 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 14:36:09 2012. What about answering the question? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 15:29:50 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 15:19:43 2012. Now you're talking in terms of "outsiders"? and painting all such "outsiders" with the same brush? That's called jingoism, you know. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jan 16 16:10:06 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 15:29:50 2012. Next thing you know, WMATAGMOAGH will claim that the palestinians were farming that land for hundreds of years, and other hilarious stuff. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 16:15:14 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 15:29:50 2012. Funny how you want Europe to mind its own business but you have no problem if you or the US government wants to get in to someone else's... |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 16:57:55 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 15:19:55 2012. I fairly succinctly indicated the reason Europe has no standing to dictate to Jews anywhere where they can and cannot live.I therefore answered your question in my original post and you, rebbe, true to your calling, are once again deciding who can and cannot post in this august venue, and on what subjects. Now you can answer a question for me: How do you feel about Zionism, historically or currently? I think it's a fair question to ask a Jew who has chosen to live in Israel. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 16:59:24 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 15:19:43 2012. You completely blew by the historical context, which reveals quite a bit about your own POV. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 16 17:01:31 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 16 16:15:14 2012. Was the U.S. or any person on this board the venue for the historic murder and oppression of Jews, oh learned one? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 16 17:13:13 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU threatening Israel over ''land grab'' of *Israeli land* . . ., posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jan 16 16:10:06 2012. The "Palestinians" didn't exist for hundreds of years. They "came into existence" sometime during the 50s or 60s. Remember Zuheir Mohsen's statements from back in the 70s?
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