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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:06:52 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 4 21:59:26 2011. Who forces them to follow their parents?The Racist State of Alabama, that's who. Did you have a choice where you wanted to live when you were 7-8 years old (or 11-12-13 for that matter) if your parents decided to move for whatever reason? If your parents had been undocumented immigrants from Africa and Africans (and African-looking people) had been targeted by the local Gestapo, would you have been able to stop them from taking you to Burkina Faso when you were 9 even though you are an American? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:33:23 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:00:59 2011. Show me where the GOP wants to change that - whatever that is? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:34:52 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:00:22 2011. So what exactly are you proposing? Do you advocate the illegal parents leave their legal children behind to be raised in state sponsored foster care? |
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Posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:39:05 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:33:23 2011. Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/19/gop-spending-cuts-affect-millions-people/GOP spending cuts would affect millions of people Published January 19, 2011 | Associated Press WASHINGTON – Low-income students may get smaller grants and the newly disabled might have to wait longer for their benefits. And just about every politician is going to get an earful from the local PTA if school aid gets whacked. Republicans are finding it's one thing to issue a blanket promise to cut spending, an entirely different matter when you actually take the scissors to $1 of every $6 spent by agencies like the IRS, the FBI, NASA and the National Park Service. Federal layoffs would be unavoidable, the White House warns That's the real-world impact of House Republicans' campaign promise to cut $100 billion from the budgets of domestic agencies. Next week, they plan to vote on a resolution setting appropriations for the rest of the year at 2008 pre-recession levels in place before President Barack Obama took office. The vote will be largely symbolic. The actual cuts would have to be made in appropriations bills that would have to clear a 60-vote hurdle in the Senate, where Republicans hold only 47 seats. The $100 billion promise, contained in the GOP's "Pledge to America" campaign manifesto, is based on cuts from Obama's budget recommendations for 2011, but the actual savings in returning to Bush-era levels would be a little less since the government is operating at last year's slightly lower budget. Still, compared with 2010 rates and assuming a full year of implementation, Republicans are promising to cut up to $84 billion from nine appropriations bills, cuts that would average 18 percent. Some Republicans, especially in the Senate, may join Democrats in balking when they see their size. But the House insurgents — backed up by last year's election mandate — promise they won't be weak-kneed in fulfilling their drive to shrink the government and wrestle the spiraling national debt under control. A return to 2008 levels would mean significant cuts for lots of programs favored by Republicans, including an 8 percent cut to NASA, a 16 percent cut for the FBI and a 13 percent cut in the operating budget of the national parks. There are other political land mines. Newly elected Republicans in Minnesota, Wisconsin and the Dakotas are sure to feel major political pressure over big cuts looming for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, known as LIHEAP, which provides home heating subsidies to the poor. Former Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey, D-Wis., who retired last year, orchestrated a doubling of the program's budget — from $2.5 billion to $5 billion — since 2008. Obey said it's going to mean "a lot of people who aren't able to pay their heating bills are going to have no way to heat their homes — or they're going to have to decide to eat less or see the doctor less." Republicans in Texas, Florida and Alabama — where NASA facilities mean thousands of jobs — are sure to fight against cuts to the space agency. NASA could have to abandon the International Space Station because of the cuts, the White House warns. Lawmakers in both parties from rural districts are likely to resist what could be an almost 20 percent cut to a program that subsidizes service by smaller airlines to isolated cities and towns like Scottsbluff, Neb., and Burlington, Iowa. Smaller subsidies or tighter rules would probably mean some communities would lose service. As local school districts cope with budget squeezes, they won't be able to count on the same amount of help from the federal government. Special education grants to states could be cut by $1.4 billion, or 11 percent, forcing hometown school boards to cut services or make up the difference with local funds. The Women, Infants and Children program, which provides food for low-income pregnant women, mothers and young children, has near-universal support. But without an exemption from the cuts, 1 million of them could lose benefits next year, according to calculations by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal research and advocacy group. "Cutting the big programs isn't that hard. It's the little stuff that everybody fights the hardest about, whether it's LIHEAP or WIC or all this other stuff," said Jim Dyer, a former top aide for the House Appropriations Committee. "You're looking at tremendously popular programs like state water grants, the national parks, cancer research, higher education, food safety — all of this stuff's got to be on the table." "We're not talking about cutting; we're talking about getting to '08 levels, which provides a high level of funding for (health research), Pell Grants and for food and drug safety," said Rep. David Dreier, R-Calif. "To somehow say that we are gutting this is a gross mischaracterization of where we are." The account to pay employee salaries at the Food and Drug Administration would actually bear a 35 percent cut — more than $1 billion — if it were returned to 2008 levels. Pell Grants for college students from low-income families could be cut by more than $1,000 from the current $5,550 maximum grants. A cutback in housing subsidies would mean that hundreds of thousands of people won't see their Section 8 vouchers renewed. And a $1 billion, 24 percent cut to the historically underfunded Indian Health Service would reduce critically needed health care in some of the most impoverished places in the country. Republicans aren't saying that every account will absorb an 18 percent cut back to 2008 levels. The most popular programs might be cut less; others slashed even more. Republicans have already imposed a 5 percent cut on lawmakers' budgets for running their offices on Capitol Hill. "I hope that federal agencies across the spectrum will follow suit and find ways to cut their own budgets," said House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va. "If not, we're happy to do it for them." The Pentagon, the Homeland Security Department and veterans' programs were exempted from the cuts when Republicans drew up the promise, but are likely to get a good scrubbing anyway. "There are no sacred cows," said House Appropriations Committee Chairman Harold Rogers, R-Ky. Cuts to some easy targets, like the National Endowment for the Arts — marked by Republicans when they took over Congress in 1995 — would save relatively little. Its current budget is $168 million; a return to 2008 levels would save just $13 million. The White House says the promised GOP cuts would fall disproportionately on domestic agencies whose discretionary budgets are passed by Congress each year. They account for only about $1 in $7 spent by the government. Rising Medicare and Medicaid costs are the real drivers of the United States' long-term deficit woes. "In terms of the bottom line, we totally agree that there needs to be discipline in discretionary spending, but we shouldn't for a moment believe that these levels of savings will in and of itself solve the fiscal challenge," said White House Budget Director Jacob Lew. "The problem is much bigger than the total of nondefense discretionary spending, much less a reduction of it." |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:40:27 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 22:24:48 2011. hahahaha - they are not harassing you. They are protecting children and yet you choose to deal with people who put children at risk. Great idea. Sign at a local 7-11 said that they ask for ID for all tobacco purchases. I purchased a tobacco product for a friend several weeks ago and was not proofed. I made a point of complaining loudly. Not because I wanted to be a pain in the ass but because next time it might be my 16 year old grand daughter who looks mid-20ish. That's the purpose of the law. |
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Posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:41:40 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:40:27 2011. I don't care. I prefer to not be bothered. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:42:16 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:06:52 2011. Hey schmuck - can you not make a point without making it personal? What the fuck is the matter with you? Just state what your proposal is to resolve the issue. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:43:55 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:39:05 2011. Me thinks you need to re-read it and get back to me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:47:15 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:41:40 2011. That is a shame that the rule of law is so unimportant when it inconveniences someone. What if people felt that Red Lights were an inconvenience or stop signs are a bother or one way streets take you out of your way? Sorry, Tony, but your point of view in this instance is absolutely wrong. |
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Posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:50:17 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:47:15 2011. I'm not breaking the law. Therefore, I don't want to have to PROVE my innocence. I'm sorry. It's just the way I feel.Obviously, several Hispanics feel the same way. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:54:13 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:33:23 2011. The entire Dickensian vision of what America should be is based upon it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 4 23:55:49 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:50:17 2011. So does most of America ... the Constitutional requirement of "probable cause" is that which separates us from the bark of "vhere are your paperz!" :( |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:57:06 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:34:52 2011. Do you advocate the illegal parents leave their legal children behind to be raised in state sponsored foster care?Yes if no other alternative (other relatives or friends) is possible. A group home beats allowing that those Americans grow up in Honduras or Chiapas State. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:57:59 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:50:17 2011. You are enabling others to break the law which is sort of consistent with your feelings about immigration laws. At least you are consistent. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:01:52 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:57:06 2011. Fine and I have no issue with that. But these children are also opting to go with their parents and that is understandable. You are deliberately now re-framing the argument because you have no reasonable argument against the Alabama immigration law. Back to the American born children; Do you intend to stop them from leaving with their parents - and use force to keep them here or should they be free to leave with their parents? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:06:33 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:47:15 2011. Because as we all know, failure to produce an ID at the liquor store results in arrest and imprisonment until age is proven.That you can't tell the difference between checking for ID at a store that someone voluntarily goes to and being stopped on the street by the police and asked "for papers" shows your lack of common sense. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:12:49 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:01:52 2011. You are deliberately now re-framing the argument because you have no reasonable argument against the Alabama immigration law.My arguments against the Alabama law are the same as those against the Arizona law. These assaults on the rights of US Citizens to be free from arbitrary search and seizure by government forces should offend any lover of liberty and of the American Way. The AL law didn't get as much publicity because there is nothing to boycott there. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:14:48 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:06:33 2011. Fogging the issue again with rhetoric. When you guys want to discuss the argument rationally, let me know. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:16:09 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:12:49 2011. The Alabama law does not assault the rights of American citizens. It protects American citizens. Any more questions? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:18:53 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:16:09 2011. The Alabama law does not assault the rights of American citizens. It protects American citizens.Like how it's protecting those young American citizens being dragged to El Salvador and condemned to a life of misery? |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 00:20:24 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:12:49 2011. Fuck the boycotts!But seriously, both laws are bad. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:22:17 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:18:53 2011. Who is dragging them to El Salvador? Who is dragging them to Honduras? Who is dragging them to Mexico? Are you advocating that children be taken away from their parents by force and be placed in state institutions? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:25:12 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 00:20:24 2011. No - if the laws are bad, then lets start with a boycott of Arizona since they started this trend of state immigration laws. let's drive the state into bankruptcy. Lets see that the legal citizens of the state of Arizona have no social services, no police or fire and no jobs. They deserve it for wanting the immigration laws enforced. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:43:05 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:25:12 2011. if the laws are bad, then lets start with a boycott of Arizona since they started this trend of state immigration laws.I've been boycotting AZ since they passed that law. Even small things like not watching the ASG or other events taking place there. let's drive the state into bankruptcy. They already did that to themselves independently of the boycott. Lets see that the legal citizens of the state of Arizona have no social services, no police or fire and no jobs. The Germans and Italians collectively paid the price for what their elected governments did to their people and those of neighboring countries in the 1930's and '40's. So should Arizona. In democracies with free and fair elections, guilt is collective whether it is Arizona or the Gaza Strip. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:45:19 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:43:05 2011. Good work. Keep up the boycott. But since you live in NY, what exactly does your boycott consist of? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:45:33 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:22:17 2011. Are you advocating that children be taken away from their parents by force and be placed in state institutions?If the destiny of such innocent young Americans would otherwise be a life of misery in those countries, then the answer is: ABSOLUTELY YES! |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 00:47:30 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:43:05 2011. Fuck you you asshole. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:59:48 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:45:33 2011. Didn't Adolph Hitler try the exact sae thing to build his great "Aryan Super-Race"! Are you really advocating forceably taking children from their bilogical parents because of your political agenda. What about the parent's rights. What about the children's rights. Don't take this the wrong way, but do you realize how sick that sounds? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 5 01:10:03 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 4 17:31:19 2011. Illegal aliens are hurting your people worse than any group. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 01:48:17 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 00:47:30 2011. Sorry. I take it personally when you threaten the livelihood of myself, my family, and my friends over a bad law that is currently not in force and will likely be thrown out in the courts.I don't agree with the law, but I don't agree that innocent people should have to suffer by people like you either. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 01:55:33 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 01:48:17 2011. Sorry. I take it personally when you threaten the livelihood of myself, my family, and my friends over a bad law that is currently not in force and will likely be thrown out in the courts.I take it personally when legislators mount an attack on American citizens because of their race and national origin. I don't agree with the law, but I don't agree that innocent people should have to suffer by people like you either. People can throw out the bums they elected and thus rectify their mistake. There is no Saddam Hussein or Augusto Pinochet there to stop them from doing so. until they do that, they must learn that actions have consequences. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 01:57:47 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:59:48 2011. What Adolf Hitler did is what YOU want Alabama to do.That is drive out citizens based on their race. I'd be protecting our citizens instead of saying "good riddance" as your ilk does. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 01:58:35 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 01:55:33 2011. I take it personally too.However, what you're doing crosses the line too. I DID'T VOTE FOR THESE MOTHERFUCKERS AND YOU'RE STILL PUNISHING ME. NEITHER DID ALL KINDS OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE PUNISHING. I know we've gone round and round on this before, but there is a deep level of pure rage that you set off in me when you defend the boycott. Hell... if you want to boycott all things Arizona and stay true then boycott the remainder of my posts here. I should probably boycott yours too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 5 05:38:51 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 00:45:19 2011. But since you live in NY, what exactly does your boycott consist of?He may not live in NY and may not even be a male. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 06:43:54 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 21:36:47 2011. Huh? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 06:44:57 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 4 22:09:46 2011. People like Smaz thinks that it's racist and inhumane to have Mexicans raise their children in Mexico. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 06:52:09 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 21:41:34 2011. No racism at all. If I was stopped at a traffic stop, I would be expected to show a drivers license, just like anyone.Hispanics should be exempt from this? http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=852153 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 06:55:27 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 21:54:16 2011. I assume this post was meant for ClearAspect.If not, Huh? As my post was criticizing Clear Aspect's nonsensical mention of the typo, a typo which was obvious, as mentioned. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:02:38 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:00:22 2011. There is nothing disabling about these parents, and they are not in jail, illegal people from Mexico being sent to Mexico is not inhumane, and children should be with their parents. They are free to return when they are old enough to live on their own. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:04:00 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:39:05 2011. What does that article have to do with the discussion on illegal immigrants and their American citizen children? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:05:26 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 23:57:06 2011. Yes if no other alternative (other relatives or friends) is possible.Why should parents be broken up from their children? What is inhumane about Mexicans raising their children in Mexico? The citizen children are free to return when they can live on their own. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:08:07 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:12:49 2011. These assaults on the rights of US Citizens to be free from arbitrary search and seizure by government forces should offend any lover of liberty and of the American Way.So this tirade about Mexican's American children was a nonsensical sidetrack, as usual. Okay, so now back to the issue. What is an "assault on the rights of US Citizen to be free from arbitrary search" when a person pulled over at a traffic stop is asked for their driver's license? It's quite expected at a traffic stop. You believe people that look Hispanic should be exempt from this normally expected occurence? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:18:24 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:18:53 2011. Like how it's protecting those young American citizens being dragged to El Salvador and condemned to a life of misery?Okay, so now these children, which are also El Salvadorian citizens if their parents are such, it's inhumane to send El Salvadorians to raise their families in El Salvador? The kids are free to stay, however, children can't live on their own, and are minors, and should be with their parents. Their parents are NOT free to stay. The children are free to return when they are old enough to be on their own. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:24:08 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:45:33 2011. So you advocate removing children from their parents. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:25:34 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 01:57:47 2011. No one is driving out CITIZENS based on race. But if their parents have no right to be here, they should be sent back to the country they came from. Their children should be with them, not some state run institution. If the children are citizens, they are free to return when they no longer have to be with their parents and can be on their own. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:27:44 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 01:55:33 2011. When has it become inhumane to believe that Mexican citizens here illegally should be sent back to Mexico? How is it inhumane to send Mexicans back to Mexico? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:32:10 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 22:24:48 2011. ?????????????How is that being "harassed"? That's some issue in your own head if you think it's "harassement" to be asked for ID when you buy liquor. That is to enforce the law of underage children not being able to buy liquor. (I don't agree that the age should be 21, and it should be 18, but that's another issue, and not the topic of this thread). Actually, I was still carded until about 4 or 5 years ago sometimes at some bars or stores. Actually, now I only WISH someone would card me, PLEASE "think" I look like I am possibly under 21...... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:35:02 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Tue Oct 4 23:50:17 2011. I'm not breaking the law. Therefore, I don't want to have to PROVE my innocence. I'm sorry. It's just the way I feel.Very foolish position....no offense. When you are stopped in your car, it's expected that you show your driver's license. Do you feel you shouldn't have to show the cop your license, because you "are not driving without a license, breaking the law, so why should you have to prove you have a license"???? ] |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:36:30 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:06:33 2011. Again, irrational nonsense. No one is walking up to people on the street "asking for papers". The law specifically says if "they are being stopped for some other activity", such as at a traffic stop.Pure leftist propaganda hysteria. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 5 07:37:45 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 23:47:15 2011. What if people felt that Red Lights were an inconvenience or stop signs are a bother or one way streets take you out of your way?OK - how about a red light camera that takes pictures of every plate, and when the summons comes in the mail the burden of proof is on you to show the light was green. It's just an inconvenience, right? |
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