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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:03:53 2011 One of the three men who dragged Janes Byrd to his death behind a pickup truck in Texas 13 years ago was executed a little more than a half an hour ago.http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/21/texas-death-row-inmate-executed/ |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 21 20:04:28 2011, in response to Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:03:53 2011. Why has no one taken up HIS cause?We all know why. |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 21 20:05:59 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 21 20:04:28 2011. Probably cuz there's no doubt he done the deed.your pal, Fred |
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Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:07:41 2011, in response to Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:03:53 2011. subject line corrected. |
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Dand124 commits another egregious distortion |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:11:01 2011, in response to Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:07:41 2011. Subject line corrected again. |
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Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:14:17 2011, in response to Dand124 commits another egregious distortion, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:11:01 2011. my subject line was 100% accurate. |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:14:40 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 21 20:05:59 2011. Probably cuz there's no doubt he done the deed.There are striking similarities. They were both wanton crimes (although this crime was physically far more horrific). But in this case too the Texas guy who was just executed blamed the crime on the other guy (his friend) who was there, just as Davis has done. The biggest difference that I can is that only Davis was convicted, in the Texas they gave BOTH of the prime suspects the Death Penalty. |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 21 20:16:39 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 21 20:05:59 2011. There is no doubt Troy Davis is guilty as well.The difference, in reality, is that Davis is black and Brewer is not. |
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Re: Rick Perry fulfils his duty to the people |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:17:10 2011, in response to Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:14:17 2011. Execution is not murder. You obviously have no religion in you. |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:19:41 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry fulfils his duty to the people, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:17:10 2011. right if the buy-bull says murder is ok well then it's ok |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:19:46 2011, in response to Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:03:53 2011. Thirteen years is too long of a wait.Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:21:19 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:19:41 2011. if the buy-bull says murder is okYou're equating all killing with murder. Thanks for revealing how immoral you are. |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:21:33 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:19:46 2011. Who is this Ecclesiastes guy? Probably some tea party crazy. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:21:59 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:21:33 2011. He was King Solomon, actually. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:22:56 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:21:19 2011. I think the term would be amoral, like Rhoda Penmark. |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:23:53 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:21:59 2011. Yeah, and I suppose he was full of wisdom. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:24:24 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:22:56 2011. Nah, "amoral" is more descriptive of animals, which can only follow instinct. Humans are free moral (or immoral) agents. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:24:46 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:21:19 2011. the only time that killing is not murder is when it's in self defense. This isn't self defense. |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:24:50 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:23:53 2011. Yes, until he married too many wives . . . |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:26:21 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:24:46 2011. So, Mr. Bleeding Heart Liberal would be fine to let murderers live and the blood of the murdered go unavenged. That kind of thinking led to the mess the USA is in today. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:27:16 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:24:24 2011. What humans do is immoral for the reason you cite, but a human can be amoral in his mind, or so we are told in the case of sociopaths. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:30:13 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:26:21 2011. It wasn't a Solomon but an ordinary person interviewed on CNN awhile ago, who said that when you insist that a murderer can't be executed, society is valuing the life of the guilty higher than the life of the victim. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Sep 21 20:31:02 2011, in response to Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:03:53 2011. smh, I thought you were talking about Troy Davis, thank goodness you weren't though. |
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Re: Rick Perry fulfils his duty to the people |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 21 20:31:17 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry fulfils his duty to the people, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:17:10 2011. So then you won't object if we make you take the pipe? |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:31:38 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:24:50 2011. Too many wives spoil the broth. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 21 20:33:00 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:14:40 2011. Something's funny tho when you have eyewitnesses recanting their testimony, not that eyewitness testimony is ever truly reliable.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 21 20:34:22 2011, in response to Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:14:17 2011. No it's not. Execution is not murder. Murder is the unlawful taking of a life. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Sep 21 20:34:39 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:26:21 2011. the blood of the murdered go unavengedI live in a white country, not a savage country. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:36:32 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 21 20:33:00 2011. There's a lot more to it than that. It isn't only the police who can get to eyewitnesses. |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:38:37 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 21 20:34:22 2011. so since the holocaust was legal under the German laws of the time it wasn't murder? |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 21 20:40:07 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 21 20:34:22 2011. No. Murder is the UNJUSTIFIED intentional taking of a life. Because laws can say whatever the person or persons in charge think it should say. |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:40:11 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:38:37 2011. What were the Holocaust victims guilty of? |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:41:48 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:40:11 2011. irrelevant as it relates to Chris's statement. |
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Re: Execution Carried Out |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:46:22 2011, in response to Execution Carried Out, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:03:53 2011. Actually the point I find most interesting is how the media determines the importance of news. A man was just executed who committed one of the most horrific crimes in modern times, one that stained the conscience of millions, that even figured in a Presidential Campaign, where Bush was virtually accused of being a party to the crime (he was Governor of Texas when the crime occurred and he was also Governor when the two men were sentenced to death) and yet this fulfilling of justice was barely on the media radar.In point of fact, I wouldn't have known that this execution was set for today, if not for an article in NPR. |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:54:03 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:41:48 2011. Nevertheless, you bring up an interesting issue. Were there actually LAWS in Germany under the Nazis that actually said that you can systematically kill certain people who they didn't like? The Germans were (and are) a very methodical people. When they sent people to the Concentration and Death Camps, they actually bought third class tickets on the Bundesbahn for the deportees. So if there were laws, I wonder what they said. I am sure they had laws that, say, Jews and Gypsies could be deported, and that they be sent to the camps, but have we actually found written laws that said "and be killed"? When the Germans realized that their own end was inevitable, they tried to cover the evidence of what they had done, but thing shappened too quickly. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 20:55:41 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Sep 21 20:34:39 2011. You're not making sense. |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:57:52 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 20:54:03 2011. Hitler had the power to rule by decree therefore everything they did was legal. |
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Re: Rick Perry is guilty of nothing. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 21 20:59:06 2011, in response to Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:14:17 2011. You obviously have no respect for the rule of law. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 21:00:15 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:57:52 2011. By whose lights? The late Saddam Hussein actually claimed that. Did anyone buy it? |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 21 21:04:11 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 20:24:46 2011. What about war when one takes the offensive? |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 21:06:06 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 21 21:04:11 2011. This one is anti-war, even in the case of defending against tyrants. |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 21:11:42 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 21:00:15 2011. The Enabling act of 1933 |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 21:13:35 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 21 21:04:11 2011. only a defensive war is acceptable. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 21:17:06 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 21 21:04:11 2011. What about war when one takes the offensive?I don't want to get too deep into this (he foolishly says) but by the Hague and Geneva Conventions, a lawful (or privileged) combatant in war is exempt from murder laws, so long as he adheres to the Laws of War in his actions. This is called "the combatant's privilege." If he kills outside the laws of war (as intentionally killing a civilian for no reason) he is a murderer. No one bothers to honor it any more, but all the suicide bombers and their ilk are murderers, even though I think the UN defines murderer as someone who is on the side of the Western world. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 21:17:49 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 21:13:35 2011. Well according to the Dand124 Treaties. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 21:20:25 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 21:13:35 2011. Sun Tzu would laugh at you. |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 21:20:49 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 21:11:42 2011. That doesn't answer the question whether the kinds of laws I specified were actually set down, by the Chancellor or anyone else. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 21 21:22:48 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 21:20:25 2011. He can't. He's dead. :) |
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Re: Rick Perry commits another murder |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 21 21:23:19 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 21:20:49 2011. i think the Enabling gave Hitler absolute power. |
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Re: dand commits another murder of the truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 21:23:27 2011, in response to Re: dand commits another murder of the truth, posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 21 21:17:49 2011. . . . so if anyone else wages an offensive war, you must allow yourself to be overwhelmed because you can only fight defensively?? Good thing dand124 is not a general.If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it; if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not fight even at the ruler's bidding. |
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