|
|
| Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast (761754) | |
 |
|
| Home > OTChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
| (761754) | |
Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 6 09:59:11 2011 From the NYTIMES.COM:April 6, 2011 Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast By SABRINA TAVERNISE WASHINGTON — America’s population of white children, a majority now, will be in the minority during this decade, sooner than previously expected, according to a new report. The Census Bureau had originally forecast that 2023 would be the tipping point for the minority population under the age of 18. But rapid growth among Latinos, Asians and people of more than one race has pushed it earlier, to 2019, according to William Frey, the senior demographer at the Brookings Institution who wrote the report about the shift, which has far-reaching political and policy implications. The single largest increase was among Hispanics, whose birthrates are far above those of non-Hispanic whites, largely because the white population is aging and proportionally has fewer women in their child-bearing years. The median age of whites is 41, compared with 27 for Hispanics, the report said. As a result, America’s future will include a far more diverse young population, and a largely white older generation. The contrast raises important policy questions. Will the older generation pay for educating a younger generation that looks less like itself? And while the young population is a potential engine of growth for the economy, will it be a burden if it does not have access to adequate education? The population of white children fell by 4.3 million, or about 10 percent, in the last decade, while the population of Hispanic and Asian children grew by 5.5 million, or about 38 percent, according to the report, which was based on 2010 Census numbers. The number of African-American children also fell, down by 2 percent. Over all, minorities now make up 46.5 percent of the under-18 population. Whites are now the minority of child populations in 10 states, double the number from the previous decade, according to the report, and in 35 cities, including Atlanta, Phoenix and Orlando, Fla. Vermont had the largest drop in its child population of any state. The changes also have political implications. Though whites are still 63 percent of the population as a whole, that is down from 75.6 percent in 1990, and minorities, particularly Hispanics, who now outnumber blacks, are becoming an increasingly important part of the electorate. Mr. Frey estimates that whites will slip into the minority by about 2041. The number of whites grew by just 1.2 percent in the population as a whole in the last decade, a fraction of the 43 percent growth among Latinos. |
|
|
| (761808) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by monorail on Wed Apr 6 13:25:43 2011, in response to Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 6 09:59:11 2011. so why is it that only white children are falling? |
|
|
| (762054) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 6 23:38:30 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by monorail on Wed Apr 6 13:25:43 2011. Practicing safe sex? |
|
|
| (762078) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 7 01:46:09 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by monorail on Wed Apr 6 13:25:43 2011. White children are falling for a number of reasons.As the article says, "people of more than one race". Lots of white men, especially in places like Queens, go for Asian or Latina women. Most filipina women I know have a white boyfriend or husband. Plus, middle class whites, like myself, don't want kids, because of the attack on middle class white males in America. You look at situations like NYFD exams, New Haven Firefighters, or even the Duke lacrosse case(ok, they are upper middle class), and it's clear that white males are the target of everyone's hostility. Wealthy whites continue to reproduce at a healthy pace. Their kids won't be taking civil service exams so they don't have to worry about cases like those mentioned above. Also, rich whites have the money to raise |
|
|
| (762080) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 7 01:55:28 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 7 01:46:09 2011. Forgot to add, rich whites not only reproduce, but they now tend to marry within their own social circle. I guess Jayman would say, in this case, it guarantees that high IQ whites with money will produce smart offspring, which will only widen the gap between whites and minorities on IQ and standardized tests, as only the high IQ whites are reproducing.The days of flight attendants and secretaries marrying wealthy businessmen are over. Nowadays, rich men are marrying rich women. The kind of people you see in "AVENUE" magazine. Nascar/UFC/NY Mets/Walmart whites like myself can't afford to raise kids. A couple on Manhattan's Upper East Side won't think twice about having 2 kids because they won't struggle. Middle class whites have DirecTV and 2 pets. Minorities, especially immigrants, don't think twice about having kids. |
|
|
| (762086) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 7 02:06:52 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 7 01:55:28 2011. Forgot to add, rich whites not only reproduce, but they now tend to marry within their own social circle. I guess Jayman would say, in this case, it guarantees that high IQ whites with money will produce smart offspring, which will only widen the gap between whites and minorities on IQ and standardized tests, as only the high IQ whites are reproducingYou can't breed IQ. |
|
|
| (762105) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 7 06:35:24 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by monorail on Wed Apr 6 13:25:43 2011. They're starting to drink at younger ages. |
|
|
| (762199) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 7 11:33:21 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 7 01:46:09 2011. Yes. Richard Lynn actually wrote two books about this. Among whites, maybe the very wealthiest are reproducing fine (Donald Trump has five kids after all—by three different women), I'll check that later, but middle to upper classes whites are reproducing below the replacement value (~2.1 children per childbearing women over a lifetime), which means the white population is shrinking.This is not unique to the States but is found among all whites the world over. Many European countries suffer from static or shrinking populations (Russia's population has been shrinking for a while now). This is true of East Asian countries as well, although they are all so crowded they could stand for it—except when the bill for caring for their seniors comes due). The reasons for this are multi-faceted. The biggest reason is simply the presence of birth control. As J.P. Rushton pointed out, whites and E. Asians tend to reproduce with a more relatively K-strategy than other races—quality over quantity. This means heavy investment in each offspring to maximize their status. Birth control gives middle/upper class people the option to put off having kids until the time is right; since things can always get better, that time often ends up being never. The other major problem is the unfriendly environment mothers find in the workplace, especially as careers get more high-powered (since, really, it is women who are the determining factor of the birth rate). Abundance evidence shows that having children puts women at a disadvantage career-wise, something most of us know from common sense. Having children is time consuming, leaving less time to devote to education/career, also taking time off to have children leaves women open having their jobs compromised, passed up for promotions or thrown away entirely. So, for the long-term health of the country, we need to encourage successful people—of all races—to reproduce more and encourage less successful to reproduce less. One obvious solution (yes, socialist ideas follow) is make the workplace more women friendly, by mandating parental leave (for both sexes, to prevent employers from having an incentive to hire men), career freezes, and free or in-house daycare. Maybe even the copying the French government-sponsored house maids. |
|
|
| (762200) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 7 11:34:57 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 7 02:06:52 2011. You most certainly can. What Luch is describing is known as "assortive mating," traits being exaggerated by bearers of the traits seeking out one another and having children. |
|
|
| (762234) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 7 13:32:37 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 7 06:35:24 2011. Drinking what? Energy drinks? |
|
|
| (762242) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 7 13:47:20 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 7 11:34:57 2011. No, you can't breed IQ. Are you trying to legitimize Nazi claims? |
|
|
| (762263) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 7 14:40:10 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 7 13:47:20 2011. Just because someone said something—even the Nazis—doesn't mean its wrong (ah hominem fallacy). Procreating with a higher IQ partner does increase the potential IQ of your children (not by much with a lot of potential variability, but the average IQ potential of your children is higher with a parent with an IQ of 160 vs one with an IQ of 100). |
|
|
| (762292) | |
Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 7 16:04:14 2011, in response to Re: Numbers of Children of Whites Falling Fast, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 7 11:33:21 2011. Yup. Minorities and the wealthy whites are reproducing, while the middle class whites are spending their free time loitering at Starbucks or going to popular anti-God anti-family bars like this one where dogs are allowed.Of course, the dog friendly bars have to be in Manhattan or Williamsburg, not Corona or Laurelton. As a result, whites will actually perform better on IQ and standardized exams and perform better than minorities in school, because our percentage of the total population will decrease, but the few who are left, will come from backgrounds that pass success and wealth from generation to generation. |
|
|