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Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 4 20:08:47 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 4 19:37:30 2011. Jayman brought it up, not me. He did. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 4 20:53:58 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 4 19:37:30 2011. I never heard of death metal until right now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 4 20:56:08 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Fri Mar 4 20:53:58 2011. I think that's the kind of music they play on LCHC. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 4 20:57:25 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 4 19:41:23 2011. The current crop of Republicans call those 60's era GOPers "liberals".your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 4 20:58:18 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 4 20:56:08 2011. I've never played GTA. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 4 20:59:03 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Fri Mar 4 20:58:18 2011. It's cool that you got the reference though! |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 4 20:59:03 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Mar 4 16:34:39 2011. BTW, that reasoning still sounds racist to me. If I lived in Brownsville, and some white people wanted to open up a coffee shop, but I protested because whites are higher I.Q. and snobbier as a result, then people would have a fit.I think only a handful of people, especially white liberals, are consciously thinking about IQ, even those that are NIMBY to black establishments. They are thinking about the typical behavior of those that embrace the hip-hop culture; it just so happen that those tend to be low IQ (and more dangerous) blacks. People rail against the behaviors associated with low IQ people and most don't that realize that said people have those behaviors because they have low IQ's. Then there is plain old xenophobia -- common to all people. All people prefer their own "kind", and that would be what the scenario describe is an example of. Also, who the hell are they to judge my individual character based on the fact that I didn't go to college, or that I graduated later than the government says I'm supposed to. Judging anyone on that fact alone, except in the cases when the circumstances warrant it (it's a fair judgment if you were looking out for someone to get medical advice from...) is a foolish way of assessing people. If anyone were to judge a person that way (without any other behaviors back it up), it just means that the judging person is a snobbish prick, that's all. |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 4 21:05:07 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 4 19:32:58 2011. And I brought it up to demonstrate the existence of violent (typically) white music, without the accompanying violent behavior, which is another thing that illustrates the fact that blacks are on average more violent than whites. In a way, I'm supporting your case, but you seem to be completely missing this. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 4 21:35:30 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 4 20:59:03 2011. lol. If only. I had to google. |
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Posted by TonyG on Fri Mar 4 21:38:47 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Fri Mar 4 21:35:30 2011. I had to google for "WWYBYWB" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 4 22:13:22 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Fri Mar 4 21:35:30 2011. Still, it wasn't the first link. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 01:28:07 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 4 20:56:08 2011. and in really shitty horror flicks. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 01:31:57 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 4 19:54:16 2011. nahhh....those are the people who listen to Radiohead, Arcade Fire and like to bloviate about the greatness of Emerson, Lake and Palmer. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 10:28:45 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by JayMan on Fri Mar 4 21:05:07 2011. You have to support my case, because I, as always, am in the right.When Columbine happened, people blamed Marilyn Manson and the entire Dark Metal culture. It wasn't about race. It couldn't be, because no one had the luxury of playing the race card in that case. In the case of Osmosis Jones, he makes it about race as he has that luxury. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 10:40:00 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 10:28:45 2011. You talk about race a lot for a white guy. Why is that? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 10:44:34 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 10:40:00 2011. So you admit that the defense of hip-hop is race-based, while other music genres are on their own?I'm just dealing with Jayman and Osmosis Jones and their silliness. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 10:50:44 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 10:40:00 2011. Why are you targeting me? What did I say? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 5 10:56:23 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 4 14:50:29 2011. To a point but NH does have an impressive local roster. Don't forget, the Carpenters were from New Haven. And Michael Bolton.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 11:02:19 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 10:50:44 2011. Generally black Americans are more preoccupied with race and whites much less so. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 5 11:05:08 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Mar 4 15:16:32 2011. I have no idea if the majority of the neighborhood is against it, but that minority is sure as hell being very vocal about it in a way I don't like.Thank you. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:05:45 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 11:02:19 2011. I don't even talk about Obama anymore, or both with stupid threads like the one about the BYU player. But this mentality on the part of Osmosis Jones and Jayman needs to be exposed.So, how was your trip to El Paso? What airline did you fly? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:06:26 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 5 11:05:08 2011. 15 Signatures! LOL. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sat Mar 5 11:06:48 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 10:28:45 2011. You have to support my case, because I, as always, am in the right.LOL! Let's not get too carried away now. You are right on numerous occasions, but I wouldn't go that far.... When Columbine happened, people blamed Marilyn Manson and the entire Dark Metal culture. It wasn't about race. It couldn't be, because no one had the luxury of playing the race card in that case. In the case of Osmosis Jones, he makes it about race as he has that luxury. On that note, I will say Columbine-style mass shootings only happen in white schools, by white perps (Virginia Tech notwithstanding). I know, it is outweighed by the tons of shootings that happen in black and brown neighborhoods outside of school, but an interesting note. The reality is that sometimes it is about race; other times, it's not. Not really a difficult concept. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:07:57 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Mar 4 15:16:32 2011. in a way I don't like.Yes, in an HONEST way, which someone like you does not like being confronted with. The truth. Someone like you can only understand politically correctness. Honesty is not in your vocabulary. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 5 11:09:31 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:06:26 2011. LOL, yeah, some real trending there.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:12:42 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by JayMan on Sat Mar 5 11:06:48 2011. The reality is that sometimes it is about race; other times, it's not. Not really a difficult concept.Yes, it's about race when a black music genre is under attack. When it's a white music genre, it's not about race. We all understand that. One race has history on their side, and can use the race card in every argument. Others can't. That's easy to understand. I've been saying it from the start. 15 signatures! LOL. I wonder if they will reach 20 by the end of the weekend? |
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Posted by JayMan on Sat Mar 5 11:25:50 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:12:42 2011. Yes, it's about race when a black music genre is under attack. When it's a white music genre, it's not about race.I wouldn't quite say it's that simplistic. We all understand that. One race has history on their side, and can use the race card in every argument. Again, not quite that simple:
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:28:50 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by JayMan on Sat Mar 5 11:25:50 2011. But, it really is that simple. One race, blacks, have a history that allows them to use the race card in every argument. And that is what yo and Osmosis Jones are doing. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sat Mar 5 11:30:39 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:28:50 2011. I don't think how I've been talking about race (e.g., blacks genetically less intelligent and more violent than whites) qualifies as a typical use of the race card.... |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 11:36:54 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:05:45 2011. This was my first time to El Paso and it is one of my least favorite cities in the US. I can't imagine what Juarez is like if it's so much worse.Airline was Southwest. The flights were ok. I had a middle seat on the leg out to Phoenix and the asshole next to me was using both armrests. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 5 11:41:36 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by JayMan on Sat Mar 5 11:25:50 2011. Haha!! Nice, thanks.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:52:00 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by JayMan on Sat Mar 5 11:30:39 2011. Your defense of the hip-hop club is race carding.As for the IQ garbage, that's stupid. Blacks score lower on IQ tests because they tend to have piss-poor educations and lower self-esteem because so many grow up in a single parent household. If raised in a better environment, things would be different. I'm the one who pointed out back in 2005 that the liberal white MSM was hurting blacks in hip-hop. It was in 2005 when I was reading USA Today, my favorite newspaper, and saw an article about Young Jeezy. I had never heard of him before, but found it interesting that USA Today found the space to cover his arrest on weapons charges. Why did they do that? Probably because he was a young black rapper perpetuating the stereotype. So what's the message to young blacks in hip-hop? The message is that if you want cred and publicity, a weapons charge will help your image. I'm one of "these white guys" who grew up listening to Run-DMC, LL Cool J, and later Wu-Tang and Public Enemy. Sad that the culture is now so violent. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Mar 5 17:47:16 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 11:07:57 2011. No it's clearly not the truth, and I've proven why it isn't many times. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 5 17:55:14 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 2 15:38:32 2011. Or it's journalistic license aka the reporter said it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 20:31:02 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Mar 5 17:47:16 2011. Nope. I think you have no idea how far race relations have come, and how this case has more to do with music genre and it's recent violent image, more than anything else.Stay tuned. I'm gonna post a rap beat from 1995 that I need help identifying. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Mar 5 20:42:33 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 20:31:02 2011. Although no one but JayMan has posted proof that it may actually be about such. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 20:54:35 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Mar 5 20:42:33 2011. No one really agrees with you. 15 signatures? And the violent recent history of hip-hop is what this is about, just like it was about Marilyn Manson and dark metal when Columbine happened. Whites love black music. I know I do. But it's the violent image of hip-hop that may be causing the very little backlash here. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Mar 5 20:59:56 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 20:54:35 2011. No one really agrees with you.And no one has posted proof except for me & JayMan. 15 signatures? It's gotten more, but yeah, I suppose that's minuscule. And the violent recent history of hip-hop is what this is about, just like it was about Marilyn Manson and dark metal when Columbine happened. Whites love black music. I know I do. But it's the violent image of hip-hop that may be causing the very little backlash here. I'm not sure about that, there's a club that plays local white rap acts all the time all on 5th Avenue that not too many people protest. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 21:04:23 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Mar 5 20:59:56 2011. White rap? Limp Bizkit or Bubba Sparx?You and Jayman have no proof. I posted all the proof about hip-hop's violent image and events featuring the faces of that genre. You can't handle the truth regarding all the shootings. That's ok. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Mar 5 21:11:55 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 21:04:23 2011. White rap? Limp Bizkit or Bubba Sparx?Local unknown acts, I think it's called Southpaw but I'm not sure. You and Jayman have no proof. I posted all the proof about hip-hop's violent image and events featuring the faces of that genre. You can't handle the truth regarding all the shootings. That's ok. I've posted 4 articles worth of proof off the top of my head, and I rebutted every shooting you mentioned. I'm still waiting for you to name me a rapper that was killed by someone he was feuding with. I'm also still waiting for you to prove your assertion that altercations happen more at Hip hop clubs than any other type of club. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 21:18:19 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 20:54:35 2011. I agree with him and Chris agrees with him. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 21:32:54 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 21:18:19 2011. sad. it's the music genre. lose the guns and no one will be worried. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 22:01:21 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 10:40:00 2011. He's whole life revolves around race.He's a Professional Victim. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 22:04:30 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 22:01:21 2011. 1. I did not start the thread. Someone whose life revolves around race did.2. I'm not a professional victim. The person who started the thread is the victim. 3. My life revolves around race no more than yours or anyone here. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 22:06:41 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 5 10:56:23 2011. And Michael Bolton.
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 22:07:29 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 22:04:30 2011. I could cite examples, but won't.What is the rap beat that you were going to post? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 22:09:10 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 21:18:19 2011. and I agree with you, him and Chris. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 22:19:30 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 22:09:10 2011. Do you agree with me about Waiting for "Superman"? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 22:29:10 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by SMAZ on Sat Mar 5 22:09:10 2011. right. has nothing to do with all the shootings in the hip-hop culture. these residents would act the same way if the Harlem Boys Choir were coming to the area. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 5 22:31:40 2011, in response to Re: Still not convinced? (Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors), posted by Easy on Sat Mar 5 22:07:29 2011. The instrumental that he's singing over. I want to know what song that is. |
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