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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 3 13:11:32 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 3 04:22:21 2010.

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It's also feminine in nature. It is either used by a female or to describe a female.

Again, the PDA in the ad is not offensive. It's just strange to use this particular word in it.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Dec 3 13:29:18 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 2 21:11:03 2010.

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But here is a list of Biblical injustice for the benefit of those who have not.

Thanks James. I have hardly ever looked at a Bible for over sixty years, when I was forced to learn "divinity" at school!

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Dec 3 13:49:31 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Thu Dec 2 23:51:07 2010.

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make an all out effort to discover immortality

Recent research has shown that it is possible to rejuvenate prematurely aged mice, by reactivating an enzyme that protects the tips of chromosomes. See Telomerase reverses ageing process.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Dec 3 14:13:53 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 3 09:04:58 2010.

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Nothing wrong with not believing in a trinity. There's no "trinity" in the Bible.

Agreed. The Holy Trinity was a diplomatic compromise reached at the Council of Constantinople. Islam rejects the Holy Trinity as blasphemous.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Dec 3 14:34:54 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 2 21:22:28 2010.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Dec 3 14:38:20 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 2 21:00:03 2010.

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If you reject theism but believe in God, doesn't that make you (and Bishop Spong) a deist?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 14:38:41 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 3 04:16:12 2010.

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"boo-boo"

Isn't that a term kids use to describe injuries?

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Dec 3 14:42:12 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Dec 2 21:19:23 2010.

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Why would it need seasonal relevance?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 14:45:07 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 3 04:22:21 2010.

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I would have never guessed the modern reference. It is too close to baby talk when refering to injuries to the point that I really can't fathom its usage by adults or the new meaning it has taken on - oh well....





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Re: Burden of Proof (Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach)

Posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Dec 3 14:46:51 2010, in response to Re: Burden of Proof (Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 3 11:40:32 2010.

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The method serves to reject false theories due to their being proven false, not to vindicate them as any kind of legitimate science.

Yes but falsifiability is not the sum total of the scientific method. It is just a necessary part of it.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 15:04:31 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 3 10:09:11 2010.

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Nope ... conservatives DEMAND that we think like them ... or else.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 15:18:50 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 3 07:04:04 2010.

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Ummmm ... no ... 45 year olds still in fear is how republicans govern. Look at Olog and some of his friends here fer krissakes ...

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 3 17:06:45 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 21:07:55 2010.

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The weak definition of "atheist" has all but disappeared from usage. For all intents and purposes, the current meaning of atheist is to deny the existence of god, and the current meaning of agnostic is to suspend one's thinking regarding it. Anyone who believes the two words are synonyms is desperately trying to increase the population of their camp, for some reason.

Unlike pink unicorns and the boogie man, there *is* evidence of a God/creator/originator. If that evidence could be definitively refuted, our current religions would have disappeared a long time ago, like the Roman and Greek gods and goddesses.

What your basically saying is that humans need religion for morality, which is patently untrue. Morality is not based on religion but instead based on the social contract, which basically states that in order to get the benefits of living in a social group one needs to adhere to certain rules. The development of morality and an innate moral sense was necessary for the evolution of a social species, and what allows humans to live harmoniously in a group.

Oh really? The Romans were cool with raping of servants on a whim and fucking your siblings for the purpose of having children by them. Religious law is what put an end to that, if not we'd have diluted our gene pool to have even more blithering idiots out there than we have right now.

People can *very easily* have their concept "morality" twisted and inverted; all you need is a charismatic leader. Religion is useful for stopping that (just as easily as it can cause it).

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Dec 3 17:28:26 2010, in response to Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 30 22:21:11 2010.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 3 17:45:22 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 14:38:41 2010.

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or Yogi's buddy.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 3 17:48:48 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 14:45:07 2010.

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Terms of endearment can get pretty close to baby talk.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 18:06:09 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 3 17:48:48 2010.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 3 18:17:11 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 3 17:06:45 2010.

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Just because people follow some group doesn't prove the existence of a god. It just proves there are people being born with the propensity to believe that kind of thing.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 3 18:18:58 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 18:06:09 2010.

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LOL, I've seen that before....so I didn't have to do it again :P

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Fri Dec 3 18:26:53 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 3 17:06:45 2010.

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The weak definition of "atheist" has all but disappeared from usage.

Really? Why then do Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris still use it?

For all intents and purposes, the current meaning of atheist is to deny the existence of god, and the current meaning of agnostic is to suspend one's thinking regarding it. Anyone who believes the two words are synonyms is desperately trying to increase the population of their camp, for some reason.

I admit the language is rather cumbersome on this issue; it has served to create ambivalence on the issue of the existence of God when there in fact should be none. Atheism, in the correct form as espoused by rational people is the natural conclusion of processes that examine the world and evidence in it. “Agnosticism” is not some form of “sub-atheism”, as the reasoning of agnosticism, which of course means withholding belief in God until there is evidence, is identical to rational atheism.

Unlike pink unicorns and the boogie man, there *is* evidence of a God/creator/originator. If that evidence could be definitively refuted, our current religions would have disappeared a long time ago, like the Roman and Greek gods and goddesses.

And what exactly is that evidence?

>>>>>What your basically saying is that humans need religion for morality, which is patently untrue. Morality is not based on religion but instead based on the social contract, which basically states that in order to get the benefits of living in a social group one needs to adhere to certain rules. The development of morality and an innate moral sense was necessary for the evolution of a social species, and what allows humans to live harmoniously in a group.

Oh really? The Romans were cool with raping of servants on a whim and fucking your siblings for the purpose of having children by them. Religious law is what put an end to that, if not we'd have diluted our gene pool to have even more blithering idiots out there than we have right now.


The Romans had religion, pre-Christianity (those gods and goddesses you mentioned). And why then did this “religious law” not stop the Christians from raping, enslaving, torturing or slaughtering whole ethnic groups of people?

People can *very easily* have their concept "morality" twisted and inverted; all you need is a charismatic leader. Religion is useful for stopping that (just as easily as it can cause it).

Oh you mean like Osama bin Laden? And numerous popes? And David Koresh? And Mohammed? Right, religion does a great job of stopping charismatic leaders from twisting people’s morality.

Seems you got things ass-backwards my friend; religion has been an excellent tool that charismatic leaders have used to inflict all manner of evil upon the world. Its record of stopping such abuses has not been as stellar…


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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 18:38:05 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 2 11:31:38 2010.

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Is it wrong that this made me laugh?

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 18:41:15 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by JayMan on Fri Dec 3 18:26:53 2010.

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Seems you got things ass-backwards my friend; religion has been an excellent tool that charismatic leaders have used to inflict all manner of evil upon the world. Its record of stopping such abuses has not been as stellar…

And Atheists have such great role models like... Kim Il Sung, Josef Stalin, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot!

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Dec 3 19:21:58 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 18:41:15 2010.

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Good Point.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 19:22:22 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 18:41:15 2010.

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Communism is just another religion to its disciples, much like many of our own dogmatics. :)

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Fri Dec 3 19:28:51 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 18:41:15 2010.

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As Selkirk pointed out, these were hawkers of state religions. Communism and Nazism are dogmatic doctrines that are held by their followers with complete suspension of rational scrutiny with the fervor of Christian or Muslim crusaders. And like all religions, they have lead to enormous human suffering.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 19:35:59 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 19:22:22 2010.

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Not only communists - Mussolini was also a self-proclaimed atheist. The quest for power is the problem, religion is the excuse. If religion did not exist wars would continue under other pretexts

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 19:39:31 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by JayMan on Fri Dec 3 19:28:51 2010.

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Then what you are saying is that human nature is the problem. Humans will always follow charismatic leaders be they religious or atheists who create so-called state religions. Either way wars will continue and so will human suffering. Atheism is not a solution to anything.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Dec 3 19:46:05 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Dec 3 14:34:54 2010.

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LOL!

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 19:49:25 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 19:35:59 2010.

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Absolutely ... and religion can also be an abuse of power. Where I was going with it is that even when there's no "official religion" then "leaders" will go and create their own. I'm merely pointing out that partisanship is its own religion too. :)

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Fri Dec 3 19:50:25 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 3 19:39:31 2010.

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Then what you are saying is that human nature is the problem. Humans will always follow charismatic leaders be they religious or atheists who create so-called state religions.

You are correct, wars -- and religion -- are expressions of human nature. Society has been making progress, however gradually, through various means, towards reducing the incidence and severity of conflicts.

Either way wars will continue and so will human suffering. Atheism is not a solution to anything.

Actually, to the contrary, moving towards rational and evidenced-based solutions to problems serves to alleviate human suffering and improve the quality of life. As I've noted, as society has dis-embraced religion, society has improved. And as Sam Harris argues in his book, The Moral Landscape, science has advanced to the point that it can give us insight into how to solve moral problems, problems where relying on religion for answers (such as the case with embryonic stem cell research or whether the terminally ill have the right to self-euthanasia) lead us to misguided solutions that only serve to prolong suffering.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 3 19:51:07 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 2 21:22:28 2010.

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What about other terms of endearment, like "honey", "snookums", "baby", "cutie-pie", "googly-goo", or many others?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 19:54:08 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 3 19:51:07 2010.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 3 19:55:31 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 19:54:08 2010.

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LOL! Yup, terms of endearment ARE hard on the stomach, aren't they?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 3 19:59:29 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 3 19:51:07 2010.

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Googly-goo? Is that a reference to man juice?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 20:02:10 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Dec 3 14:34:54 2010.

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Alicia Keys is one fine homewrecker.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 20:02:28 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 3 19:59:29 2010.

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:-/

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 20:05:08 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 3 19:55:31 2010.

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And you wonder why Nihonjin always say "Mushimushi" when they pick up da phone ... :)

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 3 20:05:15 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 3 19:59:29 2010.

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Nope. Heard a straight couple use that term.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 20:06:48 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 3 03:16:28 2010.

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Why are you always so hard on him?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 3 20:07:26 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 3 20:05:15 2010.

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I'm just messin. Never heard it before.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 20:08:05 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Dec 2 21:23:42 2010.

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Have you ever heard of a place called prison?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 20:09:10 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 2 23:44:05 2010.

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Who is that?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 3 20:10:51 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 20:08:05 2010.

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Being gay in prison is supposed to be very tough.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by johnl on Fri Dec 3 20:53:39 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 2 14:33:43 2010.

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No. Chris doesn’t read. Even if the underside of Chris’ rock was written in large letters, he still wouldn’t read it!

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 3 20:57:26 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by johnl on Fri Dec 3 20:53:39 2010.

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True, but he still shocks me every time. I find it very surprising when he posts stuff like that.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 3 20:58:06 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 3 10:09:11 2010.

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Who said it wasn't?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 3 20:59:01 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 3 15:04:31 2010.

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Where have I demanded anything? And how did you make this political too? Thinking a word is silly is "Republican or Democrat" to you?

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 3 20:59:44 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 3 20:58:06 2010.

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Maybe he was just clarifying. I don't find "boo" annoying at all.

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by johnl on Fri Dec 3 21:01:16 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 3 03:21:37 2010.

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Yup! It’s a pity they didn’t make a lesbian version of the same posters, then Luch could have misogyny in the same post for trifecta!

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Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains

Posted by johnl on Fri Dec 3 21:02:23 2010, in response to Re: Gay Ads On Subway Trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 3 20:06:48 2010.

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Andee hard for Luch!? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

ROTFLMAO!

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