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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010 This Snopes article is the best reinforcement of my desire NOT to know how certain foods reach my plate. The frightening part is, the truth is wilder than the myth! Watching the video of how they recover ALL the usable meat from a chicken made me go YIPE YIPE YIPE...I'll never go near a KFC again! |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 5 18:26:47 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. after seeing the halal meat they get shoved in england, I don't want to click the link.I saw one of these shows about the slaughterhouses on Drexel Univ TV back in the day when they were all on cable. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:32:12 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 5 18:26:47 2010. There is a HUGE poultry slaughterhouse not too far from me in Queens Village, and I'm glad to be ignorant of what goes on in there. But a little information about how your food is made is...bad for the industry, because you'll never eat that food again.Churchill had it exactly right when he said "those who are fond of legislation or sausage, should not see how either is made"... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Oct 5 18:36:57 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. According to the article, only hot dogs and frozen dinners use MSC, both of which I don't really care for. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:38:22 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Oct 5 18:36:57 2010. Still enough to make me go YIPE YIPE YIPE! |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Oct 5 18:42:31 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:38:22 2010. Kinda, people should be able to know that large companies like McDonald's, Subway, Domino's, etc care more about quantity than quality though. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:46:45 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Oct 5 18:42:31 2010. I think the fast-food chains all have hit squads to prevent that kind of info from leaking to the public. They must have missed this little tidbit, which in the past two days, has hit every site from Snopes to Huff Post! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 5 18:50:49 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. Watching the video of how they recover ALL the usable meat from a chicken made me go YIPE YIPE YIPEWhy? Looks to me like combining a sieve with the very common meat grinding machine. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 5 18:50:55 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:32:12 2010. Funny quote.Quite a coincidence too. Lately I've decided that people are detached from their food and I don't believe it's a good thing. Just by magic it's in the supermarket. Besides the end of the world issue...blizzards hurricanes, etc. I think people should try to grow one veggie plant somewhere. Even in a pot. Pepper, tomato, onion, whatever. Pick it out of the ground and put it in something. It gives you a new appreciation. Or just weridos like me. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 5 18:51:03 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. Watching the video of how they recover ALL the usable meat from a chicken made me go YIPE YIPE YIPEWhy? Looks to me like combining a sieve with the very common meat grinding machine. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:52:24 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 5 18:51:03 2010. Yes, but ordinarily, the MEAT doesn't go through the sieve... |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 5 18:55:19 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. I guess this is how Soylent Green will be made in our futures.But with people. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 5 18:56:11 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:52:24 2010. meat?sieve? Must you make everything a GAY issue? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 18:57:02 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. That's why I eat more of this, and rarely eat meat anymore.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 19:41:00 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. Fortunately, among the local farmers here, the only "mechanically separated chicken" is the dumbass that couldn't scoot out of the way of the tractor wheel fast enough. :)It's MUCH safer living where the food is, you can even pet it before you cook it. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 5 19:49:27 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 19:54:12 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 5 19:49:27 2010. EXACTLY! |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Oct 5 19:59:32 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 5 19:49:27 2010.  |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Oct 5 20:01:16 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 18:57:02 2010.  |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 20:31:25 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 5 18:56:11 2010. LOL! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 5 20:34:19 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. I first heard of this stuff during an episode of Modern Marvels dedicated to cold cuts. It was the main ingredient in some kind of bologna being made. It's really not as gross as it seems. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 5 20:39:44 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:46:45 2010. This is nothing shocking or new. This is how the industry makes use of meat which is normally wasted. How do you think SPAM was invented? It was made from pork shoulder scraps which normally sold for next to nothing as dog food.Using scraps and ordinarily inedible cuts of meat to make sausage so that it would not go to waste is as old as civilization is MSC is this philosophy, melded with modern technology. What the hell do you think the early hot dogs were made from? Snout, feet, organ meat, tail, etc .... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 20:44:04 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 5 20:34:19 2010. There's something inherently wrong with ANY "extruded food."I used to LIKE these things until I saw them being made ... 
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 20:44:36 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 20:44:04 2010. YIPE YIPE YIPE! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 20:45:52 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 5 20:39:44 2010. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 20:47:25 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 20:44:36 2010. Improved! Now with MORE feet and beaks! :) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 5 21:20:55 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 18:57:02 2010. Looks like what they feed the chickens! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 5 21:23:20 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 18:57:02 2010. You and that quinoa. If these nylon pellets weren't pigmented, they'd look just like 'em. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 21:24:32 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. Have you been to a KFC in the fist place? They don't use that type of processed chicken do they? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 5 21:34:40 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 21:24:32 2010. fist?You too are making this a GAY issue? |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 21:36:43 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 5 21:34:40 2010. lol. Whatever a fist has to do with being gay, I don't want to know. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 21:54:49 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 21:24:32 2010. All places use it, including upscale restaurants.When you order "Chicken Breast", it's usually processed. It's not pure chicken breast. It can't be. They'd be out of business, and it would not taste good. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 21:56:04 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Oct 5 20:01:16 2010. Just got back from the Whole Foods right by Tampa International.I saw a lady putting groceries in the back seat. Her bumper sticker said, "Peace starts in the kitchen. Eat vegan". |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 21:58:41 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 21:54:49 2010. I seem to recall that they advertise that they do not use processed chicken. Certainly their chicken - which still has bones in it - is real chicken. According to the article even the McDonalds McNuggets stopped using processed chicken in 2003.You can taste the difference between processed chicken and regular chicken and most places where I eat do not use processed chicken. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 21:59:31 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 5 20:34:19 2010. I saw that episode. They also showed how turkey breast is made. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:01:33 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 20:44:04 2010. I agree. I don't eat processed potato chips and they are increasingly rare nowadays. Why do people eat such crap anyway?!? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 22:02:17 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:01:33 2010. It's cheap. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:05:07 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 22:02:17 2010. For potato chips they aren't really any cheaper and can even be more expensive. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 5 22:07:06 2010, in response to Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 5 18:22:42 2010. Do you even know what they sell at KFC? Clue: They don't take processed chicken, reattach it to bones and make it look like real chicken. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:08:54 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 5 22:07:06 2010. lmao |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 5 22:09:23 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 5 22:07:06 2010. lol |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 5 22:14:24 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:01:33 2010. I've never heard of "processed potato chips" other than Pringles, which is 42 percent potato per chip. They tried to get out of Britain's 15% VAT using that argument, but the courts over there ruled them to be actual "crisps" . . . |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 22:20:38 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 21:58:41 2010. I'm surprised. I know that lots of those purdue chicken breasts at the supermarket are processed. They look like whole breast without the bones, but they aren't. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 22:21:25 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:01:33 2010. Dunno ... the "potato chip" was invented by a pissed off chef in Saratoga, George 'Speck' Crum of Saratoga Springs ... Crum worked at Moon's Lake House on Saratoga Lake as a cook, where his sister Catherine Speck Wicks also worked.The grumpy patron ordered Moon's Fried Potatoes, their well-known house specialty. At that time, fried potatoes (or French fried potatoes) were commonly served in thick cut slices in the French tradition. The patron found the potatoes to be too thick and soggy. Dissatisfied, he sent them back to the kitchen and requested that they be cut thinner. He was duly served a second portion, and still not satisfied he returned them yet again, insisting that they be cut thinner still. Not particularly receptive to criticism of his cooking, the spirited Mr. Crum obliged by slicing them as paper-thin as he could manage and salting them heavily in an attempt to make them inedible. Deep fried, they became quite crispy and impossible to eat with a fork. Intending to teach the wealthy patron a lesson, the reaction from the diner instead was one of enthusiastic appreciation and a request for a second serving of chips! Soon other diners requested Crum's chips, and so began the illustrious history of "Saratoga Chips", a Moon's Lake House specialty. Another version of the story claims that Catherine Speck Wicks accidentally dropped slices of potato into hot fat she was preparing for a batch of doughnuts, and when Crum fished it out, he tasted it and decided to put it on the menu as crispy Saratoga Chips. In 1860, Crum opened his own restaurant in Saratoga Springs on Malta Avenue near Saratoga Lake. Within a few years, he was catering to a large and wealthy clientele that included the Vanderbilts, Jay Gould and Henry Hilton. A Saratoga historian claims in an article published in the Saratoga Springs newspaper, The Saratogian, that the reputation of Saratoga Chips stayed with Moon's and Crum focused on fish and game at his restaurant. The Snack Food Association claims Crum brought his invention to his newly opened restaurant where he placed them in baskets on all the tables, and marketed them in takeout boxes as Saratoga Chips, but never patented or protected his invention. When Crum died in 1914, his obituary stated he was the originator of the Saratoga Chip. However, when his sister Catherine died in 1917, her obituary stated she was the inventor of the Saratoga Chip. This same obituary also claims she first came to Saratoga in 1861, a full eight years after the Chips were purportedly invented. Obviously, around here, we accept no substitutes. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:22:05 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 5 22:14:24 2010. Lots of them are now. The Baked Lays are another example. Some brands even try and make them look natural by adding brown spots and imperfections. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:25:21 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 22:20:38 2010. Maybe "processed" doesn't tell the entire story. If they are really "breasts" then I doubt that they are extruded like the chicken in the OP. You know the consistency of a chicken breast. Is the chicken that you mean more like a regular breast or like the old McNuggets? It's easy to tell the difference. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 5 22:26:51 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:22:05 2010. You're right; forgot about the "Baked Lays".Sun Chips are also processed, but don't claim to be potato chips. (Their compostable bag is no more.) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 5 22:30:17 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:25:21 2010. I think the meat is from the breast, but it has some additives.I found the chicken breast at McDonald's to be kind of slimy. They have to do something to it. Especially to get all the sodium inside for flavor and texture. Oh. Go back and watch the second youtube clip in the story JZBMT posted. It's awesome. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 22:52:26 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 5 22:07:06 2010. Ahem!http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=404883 |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 5 22:54:36 2010, in response to Re: Mechanically Separated Chicken, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 5 22:52:26 2010. lol |
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