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Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:06:23 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 14:52:51 2010.

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Unbelievable! Findley is one on one with the keeper and doesn't score. Decidedly less than "world class".

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 15:21:36 2010, in response to USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by 9 local on Sat Jun 26 14:37:20 2010.

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Howard looks like a different person. He has lost a lot of weight.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:22:19 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 15:21:36 2010.

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He looks the same to me. He was never heavy.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 15:49:30 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:22:19 2010.

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Not heavy. Just thinner now than before. You can see it in his face.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:50:08 2010, in response to USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by 9 local on Sat Jun 26 14:37:20 2010.

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Questionable penalty, but we take advantage of the chance.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:51:32 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 0-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 15:49:30 2010.

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I can't.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 15:52:21 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:50:08 2010.

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Yeah. In a way, we were owed a penalty for the foul just a minute earlier.

Odd watching Univision with their commentators rooting for the US.



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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:55:28 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 15:52:21 2010.

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They should root for the US. They are an American company!

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:58:32 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:50:08 2010.

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Landon Donovan becomes the all time leading WC goal scorer from CONCACAF with 5 goals.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 16:09:36 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:55:28 2010.

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LOL.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:19:33 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 16:09:36 2010.

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Seriously. Even when Mexico and USA play they show lots of Hispanic fans rooting for the US.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 16:23:26 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:19:33 2010.

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Seriously. Even when Mexico and USA play they show lots of Hispanic fans rooting for the US.


Yeah, I know. But for the most part, Univision's bread and butter is success on the part of Mexico.

Univision is huge. I think it's the fourth most watched network in America.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by 9 local on Sat Jun 26 16:30:21 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 15:50:08 2010.

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More trouble for Tim Howard

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:34:51 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by 9 local on Sat Jun 26 16:30:21 2010.

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That was just a world class effort by Assamoah Gyan and poor defending by the US.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 16:49:28 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:34:51 2010.

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Another Ghanan pretending to be hurt. LOL. I can see why Americans rag on soccer so much.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:50:46 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 16:49:28 2010.

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He might have been hurt, but he hurt himself.

The US look spent. I can't see a goal coming.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 16:52:31 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:50:46 2010.

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I'd have to agree. We look very tired.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:56:00 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 16:52:31 2010.

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Donovan has done nothing and I haven't even heard Dempsey's name called.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 16:57:35 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 16:56:00 2010.

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They just called Dempsey's name, LOL!

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 17:00:33 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 16:57:35 2010.

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lol. And again. I have to say that the better team is advancing.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 17:01:27 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 17:00:33 2010.

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I agree. Well, only 2 months until the true football season.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 17:02:30 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 17:01:27 2010.

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Not even that long until preseason.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 17:02:31 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 16:52:31 2010.

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Which team were you rooting for?

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 17:07:21 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 17:02:30 2010.

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I'm getting excited. For some reason, baseball season isn't doing as much for me this year as in prior years. I generally start getting really into baseball after the ASG but my team, the Diamondbacks, are so out of it that I am not sure I'll even really follow much, if any baseball after the ASG.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Jun 26 17:07:34 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 26 17:02:31 2010.

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The USA.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 26 19:43:57 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 17:00:33 2010.

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I agree. The better team won. The 1-1 in regulation was about right for the first 90' but Ghana really took control of the match in extra time. Too bad. A quarter-final berth would have been nice.
An overall good effort by the US. They set a goal to advance out of group and did it by winning the group. They made it into extra time in the second round. Not bad.

The future of the US defense looks bleak. Cherundolo and Bocanegra are 31 and pretty much done. Gooch seems finished. I hope some youngsters can step it up.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 19:49:32 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 26 19:43:57 2010.

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The entire team is aging and for the first time in years we don't really have a young group to be excited about. It was supposed to be Altidore, Adu, and Spector, but they haven't really lived up to the hype. The best player on the US team may be Bradley and the word that I would use to describe him is serviceable.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 26 20:18:00 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 19:49:32 2010.

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Donovan and Dempsey still have a few good years left in them. I also like Maurice Edu. Spector may get better. Freddy Adu is only 20. He's far from finished and is finally getting some playing time in Europe. Torres is also young. He just wasn't ready this year and future coaches may know how to better utilize him. Then you may get future late bloomers (like Gomez and Buddle were this year).
We will keep producing quality players. I just don't know who they are yet.
Except for on defense, I think we'll do OK. There is a young dual German/American citizen names Danny Williams who plays defense in the Bundesliga. We need to find out if there are more people out there like him. We can't afford to have the next Giuseppe Rossi or Neven Subotic get away.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 21:46:03 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 26 20:18:00 2010.

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I agree that defense will continue to be a problem, but I think that it's better than ever. We're just getting exposed because we have the ability to attack more now instead of bunkering and only counter-attacking.

My thinking is that we're a long way from getting better overall. My theory is that we play so well as a team because our regular players get far more caps than players in other countries and play together more frequently. For example Donovan has something like 130 caps at age 28. That would be a record number in some countries and he'll still probably get maybe 40 or 50 more. As we develop better talent that plays more regularly in top leagues they'll play together less frequently. Our strength is really based on our familiarity. Kind of like how European basketball teams can play so well against a team of NBA allstars that practice together for a few weeks.

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Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 09:50:54 2010, in response to Re: USA vs. Ghana 1-2 Extra Time Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 26 21:46:03 2010.

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Did you see Tim Howard go for the header in the closing seconds?
That's gonna be an enduring image.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany up 2-0 vs England

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 10:34:09 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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John Terry is so overrated. Now the rest of the world knows it too.
It was playground stuff.
They were burned on the second goal too.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany up 2-1 vs England

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 10:39:20 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany up 2-0 vs England, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 10:34:09 2010.

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...and a goal disallowed on England that was in aby a MILE!!

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany up 2-1 vs England

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 12:54:42 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany up 2-1 vs England, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 10:39:20 2010.

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I missed it, but it sounds like England were put in their place. They so overrate their team and players. They are not even close to being a perennially elite team (Germany, Italy, Argentina, Spain, France, Brazil).

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 13:10:54 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany up 2-1 vs England, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 12:54:42 2010.

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I missed it, but it sounds like England were put in their place. They so overrate their team and players.

I so agree. When they are not playing with their clubs along international superstars they are so ordinary. Unfortunately many American fans believe the hype too because of the EPL, forgetting that top EPL teams feature very few English players.

The state of American baseball is similiar.

They are not even close to being a perennially elite team (Germany, Italy, Argentina, Spain, France, Brazil).

Once again I agree. Based on their results throughout history (this WC not included), I separate European national teams in a top tier consisting of Italy, Germany and France and a second tier of Spain, Netherlands, Portugal and England. A third tier would have various rotating teams that sometimes have good results.

England has only reached the WC semis twice in their history. They have never done shit at the Euros or the Under-20 and Under-17 World Cups. Their women's team is complete garbage.


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 13:17:22 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 13:10:54 2010.

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Exactly. I was reading a few English soccer message boards after they tied Algeria and some were admitting that they overrate their players and that they don't look so great without the international players next to them as they are during the Premiership. Did you know that many in England considered Wayne Rooney to be perhaps the best player in the world before the cup?!?

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 13:23:24 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 13:17:22 2010.

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I actually like Rooney but he sucked big in the WC (again).
It was all the accolades for guys like Terry, Lampard, Crouch (and Rio Ferdinand) in the past that pissed me off. I always thought of Gerrard as overrated but he did OK in this WC.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 13:28:27 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 13:23:24 2010.

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How many England starters would you figure could make the team for Argentina, Brazil or Spain? A couple?

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 13:43:17 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Germany Wins 4-1 vs England, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 13:28:27 2010.

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Rooney and Gerrard would make the roster. I don't know that they would start.
Of the Americans, I think that Howard would make those squads with Donovan and Dempsey having a shot at them.

England and the US are about even when it comes to starters though England has more depht. That 1-1 game was just about right an no fluke. England may be slightly better but not by much.
We are just fucked if some key player is hurt, suspended or underperforming.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 14:37:12 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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I should have mentioned this weeks ago, but John Harkes is worthless. The English commentators are excellent. I'm very glad that they finally relegated Tommy Smith to radio.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 27 14:59:21 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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Argentina 1 Mexico 0

Who is rooting for Mexico?

SMAZ
easy
PHXTUCbus

are three of their supporters.



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 15:08:21 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 27 14:59:21 2010.

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I prefer that Mexico lose every game from here to eternity although if they were to make good showing it would look better for concacaf.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 17:45:43 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 27 14:37:12 2010.

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I should have mentioned this weeks ago, but John Harkes is worthless.

I agree. He offers nothing. You would think that somebody with his experience would have some interesting insights. It's too late to dump him now but next time around they need to look elsewhere.
I wouldn't go the Lalas route.
I like analyses by Gullit and Klinsmann. I hope one of those two becomes the next US coach.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 17:47:24 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 27 14:59:21 2010.

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Who is rooting for Mexico?

SMAZ
easy
PHXTUCbus


Did you even read the post you responded to?


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 27 17:48:28 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 17:47:24 2010.

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Yeah. You trashed Mexican fans last week I think.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 27 17:51:00 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 17:47:24 2010.

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Yeah, what an idiot. Always with the ASSumptions.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 27 17:55:05 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 17:47:24 2010.

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I can't imagine you rooting for Mexico in a game vs. Argentina.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 27 17:56:13 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 27 17:51:00 2010.

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You're the idiot. People's preferences will change from game to game, and you The Amazing Spider-Pig should know that.

A team you were rooting against early in the Cup, may be the team you want to win if they play a team you hate even more.



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 27 18:04:55 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 27 17:56:13 2010.

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SMAZ has previously posted his disdain for Mexico.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 18:10:36 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 27 17:48:28 2010.

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Yeah. You trashed Mexican fans last week I think.


Correct. It even shocked you.
Yet he thinks I would be rooting for Mexico. Even my disdain for Diego Maradona can't go THAT far.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 27 18:12:16 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 27 17:55:05 2010.

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ok

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