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WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010

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USA-England tomorrow. I predict a 2-2 draw.

South Africa vs. Mexico opens the tournament today folowed by France-Uruguay. I hope Mexico gets their ass beat. I plan to watch that game at a Mexican place so that I can watch their fans cry.



A tribute to the defending World Champs:


Hopefully it will be US Captain Carlos Bocanegra raising the Cup on July 11.




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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 08:32:54 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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I hope Mexico gets their ass beat. I plan to watch that game at a Mexican place so that I can watch their fans cry.

Very Luch-like...

As for USA-England? I'm thinking more like a nil-nil offensive explosion. Anyway, enjoy the games... I won't be watching.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 08:50:07 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 08:32:54 2010.

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Very Luch-like...

Not really. LuchAAA's rationale is xenophobic.
In my case, I just enjoy witnessing their national pride destroyed.

That's the whole point of the World Cup.


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 09:21:46 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 08:50:07 2010.

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I just enjoy witnessing their national pride destroyed.

Understood.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread = as stupid as World Cup

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 11:15:51 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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Read subject.

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BAFANA BAFANA 1 Mexico 0 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by 9 local on Fri Jun 11 11:19:06 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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First goal in the World Cup was scored by South Africa, who leads Mexico 1-0 about 56 minutes in.

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Re: BAFANA BAFANA 1 Mexico 1 Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 12:02:03 2010, in response to BAFANA BAFANA 1 Mexico 0 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by 9 local on Fri Jun 11 11:19:06 2010.

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Final score. 1-1. I hope Mexico gets eliminated soon anyway.


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 11 13:56:14 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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Why are you so anti-Mexico? Because Dos Santos is being a dick?

I would not go to a "Mexican place" to piss the fans off.



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 13:57:34 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 11 13:56:14 2010.

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Mexico is our rival in soccer.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 11 13:59:11 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 08:50:07 2010.

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Not really. LuchAAA's rationale is xenophobic

Not at all. I love the country of Mexico, which is where the name LuchaAAA(Lucha Libre AAA) comes from. I just don't like animal savage beasts who blast loud music making it impossible for neighbors to sleep.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 11 14:00:38 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 08:32:54 2010.

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Very Luch-like

Not at all. You should know better.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 15:14:54 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 11 14:00:38 2010.

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Yeah, I probably should. I suppose the shock and awe of the statement from the unlikely source SMAZ messed me up. My bad.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 15:16:39 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 13:57:34 2010.

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Mexico is our rival in soccer.

Yes, Mexico is our rival.....in futbol. As opposed to something important ....

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 15:35:00 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 11 14:00:38 2010.

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Did you hear about that 14 year old thug in Uniondale who got tossed out of class yesterday for cheating but then came back and beat up the teacher?

Here is a picture of the carousel with the horses in Forest Park, Queens:


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 16:03:24 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 15:16:39 2010.

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They are as important as any other rival except for hockey/Canada. We don't really have rivalries in baseball, football or basketball do we? Our rivalry with Mexico is very important for maybe 5% of American sports fans.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 16:08:19 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 16:03:24 2010.

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International, no. Not since the end of the Cold War. But international rivalries are more important with smaller countries that don't have significant in-country conflicts.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread = as stupid as World Cup

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 11 16:35:06 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread = as stupid as World Cup, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 11:15:51 2010.

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I can't stand the horns. If they did that in Football, I think I would stop watching it. I just can't take the constant horns.
That and the fact that soccer bores me to death.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread = as stupid as World Cup

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 11 16:39:46 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread = as stupid as World Cup, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 11 16:35:06 2010.

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I just can't take the constant horns

I know steam fans say that about diesels . . .

I still don't understand how rugby isn't bigger than soccer. Soccer should be an obscure game.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by 9 local on Fri Jun 11 16:44:53 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 16:08:19 2010.

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Then you should turn on ABC at 1pm to watch the USA face England.

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Re: Banana fana fo fana? (World Clump Thread)

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 11 16:47:39 2010, in response to BAFANA BAFANA 1 Mexico 0 Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by 9 local on Fri Jun 11 11:19:06 2010.

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You singing The Name Game . . . ?

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 21:34:50 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 13:57:34 2010.

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Exactly! They need to know that they are not better at ANYTHING when compared to the US. They need to know they we are top dog within CONCACAF and that none of the bags of piss and shit that they throw at our players will change that.
Since you live in the LA area, you understand what this means more than most people.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread = as stupid as World Cup

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 21:42:51 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread = as stupid as World Cup, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 11 16:35:06 2010.

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I can't stand the horns. If they did that in Football, I think I would stop watching it. I just can't take the constant horns.

South Africa's goalie doesn't think they were loud enough:

Goalkeeper: South African fans didn’t show up

By Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports

JOHANNESBURG – The rest of the world heard the call of the vuvuzela as the World Cup kicked off Friday – but not one South African player.


South African goalie Itumeleng Khune during Friday's opening match. Click image for more game photos. (Photo by Phil Cole/Getty Images) Goalkeeper Itumeleng Khune insisted the South African public should shoulder some of the blame for the team’s 1-1 draw with Mexico at Soccer City for failing to provide enough noise and atmosphere to give Bafana Bafana a homefield advantage.

“We couldn’t hear the vuvuzelas,” said Khune, referring to the droning traditional horns that are set to provide a constant accompaniment to this tournament. “We expected to hear them and to be lifted by the people and the noise and the atmosphere.

“It was a letdown.”

Khune grew up in poverty, often having to sleep outside near the mine his father worked at outside Johannesburg, as he didn’t have enough money for a bus fare home after soccer training. He has repeatedly called for the home nation to throw its backing behind the team by snapping up as many tickets as possible for matches.

However, there was a strong and noisy Mexican contingent at Soccer City on Friday, much to Khune’s disgust.

South Africa’s new national stadium for soccer seats 94,000. The official attendance of Friday’s opener was 84,490.

“It was very disappointing for us,” Khune said. “It was very surprising. We thought there were going to be a lot more South African fans there.

“The atmosphere was not that good. It was not what we expected. There were a lot of Mexican fans there. It was like a Mexico home game. It was a Mexican advantage.”

South Africa, the lowest-ranked of all 32 teams in the tournament, looked set to make a perfect start when Siphiwe Tshabalala fired them ahead with a spectacular left-footed strike after 55 minutes.

However, the South Africans had to settle for a single point to start Group A as Rafael Marquez equalized for Mexico with just 11 minutes to go.

Needing to finish in the top two in the group to qualify for the knockout stages, South Africa must now hope for strong performances against Uruguay on Wednesday and France on June 22.

“We have to hope that more of them come out when we play Uruguay,” Khune said of the home fans. “We need it. We need their support. When a team plays at home in a World Cup it should have an advantage. You expect that. But we didn’t have it and it is because the South African people didn’t buy tickets.

“It does make a difference. It lifts the team when you need it. When it is a very close game there are many times when you need a lift. It could have helped us today.”

South African fans have come out in full force for events related to the World Cup, with more than 100,000 flooding the streets for an inspirational national team pep rally in the suburb of Sandton on Wednesday. The country effectively shut down on Friday, with most businesses closing their doors so that workers could watch Bafana Bafana play. Also, schools and universities have been closed for the entire month of the tournament.

Several South African reporters quizzed by Yahoo! Sports were surprised by Khune’s remarks, insisting the atmosphere in the stadium was at least as loud and positive as expected.

“It is great that the country is behind us,” Khune said. “But they have to come and see us play so that we can hear it and feel it.”

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 21:48:29 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 16:08:19 2010.

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Maybe. Or perhaps there just aren't enough good baseball, football, and basketball leagues outside the US since those (esp the first two) aren't popular sports worldwide. All of the best players play here whereas in soccer the best players are in several different leagues (Italy, England, USA, Spain, Germany etc.).

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 22:07:45 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 21:48:29 2010.

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If we had a true World Series or Major Leaguers in the Olympics, I think that we would have been able to establish a rivalry with Japan and Cuba.
Because of self-indulgence, near-sighteness and plain stupidity, MLB had done a poor job at internationalizing the sport and their refusal to allow MLers got it booted out of the Olympics.
In contrast, the NBA (and other factors) have made basketball the second most popular team sport in the world after soccer. A big reason for this was allowing pros to play in the Olympics. Basketball was already popular before that, but watching the best finally compete against one other took it to a new level.



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 01:50:29 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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Well, Friday's games were exciting, even with the ties. That drives my friends crazy. They can't understand the excitement over a game that ends 0-0 or 1-1.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 02:06:59 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 11 13:57:34 2010.

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Lots of viewing parties in LA, including Plaza Mexico in Lynwood. Here in Tampa, bars and restaurants are putting up big banners to promote World Cup, but I have a feeling UFC will draw more people.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 02:30:24 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 15:35:00 2010.

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Did not hear about Uniondale.

I heard about the animals being removed from a Suffolk home. It's on longislandpress.com Awesome photo of a German Sheperd being snuggled by a cat. Animal lovers will love it.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 02:31:21 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 11 15:14:54 2010.

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The nerve of SMAZ calling me a xenophobe. I don't want to deport anyone.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 12 03:20:48 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 08:50:07 2010.

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LuchAAA's rationale is xenophobic

We're not in right-wing Europe, silly. And nobody's obliged to mollycoddle criminals.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 04:27:45 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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9,000 cheer for Mexico, in Los Angeles

Story Here

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 08:58:17 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 02:06:59 2010.

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I'm watching at home. Too early to go anywhere.

I wasn't planning on it, but I've been up since 4 watching Korea and Greece.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 10:19:11 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 12 03:20:48 2010.

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We're not in right-wing Europe, silly.

You mean the same right-wing Europe that you say models itself after the Soviet Union. Do you not see the madness of your statements?

And nobody's obliged to mollycoddle criminals.

Criminals? We are talking about the Mexico soccer team and fans and you see CRIMINALS? Is that how you see the Mexican people?
You also see all the gypsy people as criminals too, don't you?


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 10:28:51 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 01:50:29 2010.

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Yeah I know. A tie against England would be excellent. I'm watching Argentina against Nigeria now. Argentina is up 1-0. It's an exciting game so far.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jun 12 10:32:45 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 11 16:08:19 2010.

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Uh, what about the USA and Russia in ice hockey? The talent gap between the NHL and the KHL (Russia's top league) is closing fast.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 10:43:04 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jun 12 10:32:45 2010.

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Is the US a rival with Russia in hockey? In any sport? Our rivalry seemed more political than athletic although there could be overlap.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 10:45:54 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 10:28:51 2010.

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I was making breakfast and missed the goal. :(

I'm hoping that Nigeria can pull off the upset, but a good game will be good enough for me.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 11:00:18 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 10:43:04 2010.

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Agreed. Our hockey rival is with Canada.
No matter how much the media tries to artifically hype a rivalry against Russia, fans haven't felt it since the Cold War.
Same with the Russian people. They have their own rivalries with Finland in hockey and with Ukraine in soccer.

I think there really is a bit of a rivalry with Russia in women's basketball.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 11:06:06 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 11:00:18 2010.

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Who are Italy's main rivals in sports?

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jun 12 11:12:27 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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I just turned on the cap or friendly or nil or whatever the World Cup games are called. It was Argentina vs. Ivory Coast I think. I use "was" because I turned it off after about 3 minutes. Absolutely unwatchable. It also sounds like there is a swarm of bumblebees flying around the stadium. Ridiculous. Speaking of flying, don't.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 11:14:13 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 11:06:06 2010.

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Who are Italy's main rivals in sports?


Germany and France in soccer. The former Yugoslavia in basketball.
The Austrians in winter sports.

As a people, the French are their rival. Italians are overjoyed when France sucks at any major tournament.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 11:18:55 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 11:14:13 2010.

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I would have figured France given the geography.

Is there any country in Europe that doesn't consider Germany a rival? I'm only half serious, but they do get listed by many countries (Holland, England, Italy, France, etc).

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 12 11:25:44 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jun 12 11:12:27 2010.

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I just turned on the cap or friendly or nil or whatever the World Cup games are called.

haha! They are called "fixtures" and Nigeria has a player named Shittu.
Either way, you you have the responsibility and duty as an American to watch the game against England, sing chants and despair in defeat and go out flying the flag in triumph in victory. All while standing up.
You also have the option to streak naked wherever you may be at any time during the game.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 15:26:10 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 08:58:17 2010.

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Wow. Your insomnia is back.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 15:28:32 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 10:45:54 2010.

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Why do you want Argentina to lose?


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 15:36:41 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 15:28:32 2010.

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I don't like their fans.

USA is very lucky to be tied. We could easily be down 2-0.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 15:38:21 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 15:26:10 2010.

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Is that insomnia? I slept for almost 5 hours.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 15:56:30 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 15:36:41 2010.

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Yup. England has controlled the ball 70% this half.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by busdude2 on Sat Jun 12 16:25:27 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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Who cares it has to be the most boring game on the planet. First thing I notice is the field is to big. It could be at least a little bit interesting if they were closer together. I thought I would try a game so I am watching the USA-ENG game. It is nuts they count up on the clock instead of down. And whats with the extra time if someone gets hurt or something. It just ended after 94 minutes a 1-1 tie. That was a waste of an hour and a half. Never again I gave it a try.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 16:31:39 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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SMAZ was right that US-England would end in a tie. I'm sure the US didn't play as well as he wanted them to.

We came alive in the last 5 minutes. England made a lot of goal attempts, failed, and that had to psyche them out a little.



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 12 16:33:03 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by busdude2 on Sat Jun 12 16:25:27 2010.

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It was a good game.

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