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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jun 7 13:51:44 2010, in response to Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 7 13:23:28 2010.

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Baloney.

Jews don't like defeatism. Stop being a defeatist and stop calling a whole race and whole religion of people defeatists.





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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 7 13:52:27 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by R30A on Mon Jun 7 13:47:29 2010.

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My mother carried a number tattooed on her arm from Auschwitz until the day she died, buster. You bet your ass I am looking for anti-Semites everywhere. If Hitler's rantings had been taken seriously in the '30s, I would have had grandparents and uncles while I was growing up. If you don't like my attitude, you can kiss my ass.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 13:55:26 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 7 13:27:15 2010.

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I never knew 6 month olds had the right to vote!

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 13:57:07 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 13:36:55 2010.

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No, you didn't. People are using Thomas' ethnicity to "explain" her viewpoints, and I want to know how far those people are willing to take this defense.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:01:52 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 13:06:42 2010.

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Israelis never bomb civilians, the Palestinians use them as shields. The Israelis go out of their way to avoid bombing civilians, the Palestinians go out of their way to put their civilians in the firing line, specifically to sway useful idiots like yourself.

Palestine had it's chance to be an independent nation in 1948. It chose to reject that chance in the hopes that it and it's Arab "friends" would conquer Israel and annihilate the Jews. Yes, annihilate them, if you do some research, you'll discover what the victorious Arab armies had in store for the "defeated" Jews of Israel had they won the 1948 war for independence. They were ALL targeted for death.

History has judged the ownership of the Holy Land, at least for now. It's Jewish. "Palestinians:" should leave and go to their real homeland, Jordan.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:05:52 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 7 12:55:54 2010.

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Thanks for recognizing my long, storied career in Congress, despite those unfortunate comments at the end of it. You are truly a fair, unhypocritical person.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 14:11:55 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 7 13:39:27 2010.

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YOU'RE ANTI-AMERICAN!

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 14:14:29 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 7 13:39:53 2010.

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"YOU ARE ANTI ISRAEL!"

Why should we as Americans believe everything that Israel is all correct? they are Human and make mistakes and feel obliged to do whatever they want....why should I have pity on Israel and not equally with the Palestinians? eh? There are 2-sides to this dispute in the MidEast.


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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 14:17:22 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 7 13:42:54 2010.

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"By the account of rational, informed people."

You reading the National Enquirer on a daily basis does not count as "an informed source..."

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 7 14:25:32 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 7 13:52:27 2010.

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Well, your attitude is one of the causes of the antisemitism you and I hate so much.

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Jun 7 14:31:51 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by R30A on Mon Jun 7 14:25:32 2010.

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Can you explain your statement? Reading what he posted did not cause me to become anti-semitic. How did it change you? Are you certain that those feelings were not always there?

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 7 14:38:58 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:05:52 2010.

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Thomas made some horribly bigoted comments, got called on it, and it ended her careeer. Ditto your post, but neither person's idiocy erases the whole of their histories.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 14:40:22 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:05:52 2010.

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What you FAILED to realize is this....Trent Lott was an ELECTED OFFICIAL and there are a different set of rules for elected officials. As an elected official HE represents PEOPLE in his district. Helen Thomas is NOT an elected official and does not have to follow the same rules as Mr. Lott.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:51:16 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 14:40:22 2010.

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There's always something which renders your hypocrisy moot. Liberals excell in finding some excuse to explain it.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:51:56 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 7 14:38:58 2010.

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Well no, Lott's comments were not racist in any way, but that was not my point.

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Re: See you, bitch. = It took alot of BALLS for ChrisR16 to say that

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:04:52 2010, in response to See you, bitch. = It took alot of BALLS for ChrisR16 to say that, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 12:29:29 2010.

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SEE YOU YOU USELESS SKANKY ASS SCUMBAG BITCH. Chris R16/R2730 is RIGHT!!!

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Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do.

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:05:34 2010, in response to Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 13:02:51 2010.

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Whoopee Doo.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:06:22 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:51:56 2010.

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So you really **THINK** it's KOOL what Trent Lott said here:

"Political controversy ensued following remarks Lott made on December 5, 2002 at the 100th birthday party of Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina. Thurmond ran for President of the United States in 1948 on the Dixiecrat (or States' Rights) ticket. Lott said: "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either."

The man was basically celebrating the life and policial career of a known racist...and you believe it's OK and yet you run around claiming you want to destroy every anti-semite you come across....what fuckin hyprocracy!

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:07:59 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 13:36:17 2010.

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Chris isn't old enough to have voted for Nixon.

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Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do.

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:08:43 2010, in response to Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do., posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:05:34 2010.

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You being...."a man"....we figured you'd say that....lol

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:09:39 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:07:59 2010.

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"Chris isn't old enough to have voted for Nixon. "

and he isn't smarter that a 5th grader...........

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:12:32 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 7 13:39:27 2010.

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"YOU ARE ANTI SEMETIC!"
No he isn't, he's anti semitic. (sp)

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:13:24 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:12:32 2010.

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"YOU ARE ANTI SEMETIC!"
No he isn't, he's anti semitic. (sp)


So you then agree that he IS ONE!....kool

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:14:34 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 14:11:55 2010.

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da' motorman's gotta pull on your rope and put your pole back on the wire 'cause you're off your trolley.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:15:06 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:13:24 2010.

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YOU are anti semitic.

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Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do.

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:17:07 2010, in response to Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:08:43 2010.

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Not only am I RockParkMan, I know a hell of a lot more about streetcars than streetcarman1

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 7 15:20:22 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Jun 7 14:31:51 2010.

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He thinks I'm either playing the sympathy card or that pushing people too hard about the Holocaust makes them hate Jews.

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 7 15:21:28 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Jun 7 14:31:51 2010.

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Mitch45 finds antisemitism in similar ways to McCarthy finding communism.

His statements harm his cause more then he could possibly know.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:23:42 2010, in response to See you, bitch. = It took alot of BALLS for ChrisR16 to say that, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 12:29:29 2010.

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What are you now, a Nazi? supporting other Nazis?

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:25:31 2010, in response to Helen Thomas Retires, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 7 12:22:43 2010.

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Glad you acknowledge that her tirade was anti-Jewish. Lots of people like to cover that by saying "oh, anti-Zionist isn't antisemitism" . . . well, when MLK is adamant that they are the same thing, you had better listen to him.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:26:17 2010, in response to Re: See you, bitch. = It took alot of BALLS for ChrisR16 to say that, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:04:52 2010.

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GAWTP

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:26:54 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 7 12:50:53 2010.

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Was I wrong about him being a racist . . . ?

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:28:23 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 13:36:17 2010.

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LOLing at yourself? It's you against OTChat, not you against little old Olog. You only did it to yourself . . .

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:30:10 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:14:34 2010.

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"da' motorman's gotta pull on your rope and put your pole back on the wire 'cause you're off your trolley."

Sorry...I don't let "strangers" touch me...maybe you do...lol

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:31:28 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 7 12:34:57 2010.

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No, it's not offensive. You should be offended at her, because if she's going after the Jews like that, she ain't so liberal after all and she'll go down the list on any variation of those famous Martin Niemöller verses that you can think of.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:31:55 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:15:06 2010.

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"YOU are anti semitic. "

Define what I said as being anti-semitic....eh? one does not have to be pro-Israel all the time...are you?

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 7 15:33:02 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 7 15:20:22 2010.

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Everyone plays the sympathy card-

I would say the second is sometimes the case, but I would phrase it differently. When someone is being accused of antisemitism when such isn't intended, it justifiably results in defensiveness, and sometimes hatred of the person who is making such accusations. (I don't think you are only, or the most guilty person here by any means, nor do I feel that antisemitism is the only concept for which this sort of behavior appears here, or elsewhere for that matter- I believe such behavior is the root of much anti-black racism in the south)

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Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do.

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:33:06 2010, in response to Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do., posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:17:07 2010.

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"Not only am I RockParkMan, I know a hell of a lot more about streetcars than streetcarman1"

You know as much as how and where to put the fare into the farebox...lol..that's the extent of your knowledge..

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:34:29 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:23:42 2010.

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"What are you now, a Nazi? supporting other Nazis?"

Sorry....I don't support chumps like you and ChrisR16....good day Sir! lol


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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:36:49 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:26:54 2010.

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"Was I wrong about him being a racist . . . ? "

lol...yea...you are still wrong and the fact that you don't point out other forms of racism and ethnic bashing from ChrisR16 and GP38 proves that YOU SO CONDONE THEIR BEHAVIOR...which is what I have been saying all along about you!


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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:40:06 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:34:29 2010.

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No, you're the Nazi supporting Nazi Helen Thomas. Everyone's seeing you for what you are.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 15:40:54 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:28:23 2010.

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"LOLing at yourself? It's you against OTChat, not you against little old Olog. You only did it to yourself . . . "


Have you taken your meds yet before you signed onto OT? eh....maybe you should now...


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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:41:17 2010, in response to Re: No, she doesn't like the old, dusty cunt any more than i do., posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 15:17:07 2010.

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Make that streetcarnazi1.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 16:04:11 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 15:41:17 2010.

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Aw, Olog stepped in.

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 16:09:55 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by R30A on Mon Jun 7 14:25:32 2010.

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Baloney. Propaganda and lies out of the EU and UN is what's inflaming antisemitsm.

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 16:10:17 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by R30A on Mon Jun 7 15:33:02 2010.

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Nobody's being "accused". Thomas admitted it freely on that video. Let go of the selfhatred.

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 16:11:38 2010, in response to Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 7 13:41:22 2010.

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Says the one that's blind to what's going on in the European Union.

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Re: Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 7 16:12:51 2010, in response to Now Its Even Worse (Re: Helen Thomas Retires), posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 7 13:23:28 2010.

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She ain't going to be a martyr if it's the libs that forced her retirement. She's a symptom of a bigger problem, though.

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 7 16:43:34 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 7 14:51:16 2010.

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Just like you guys keep bringing up Imus, Trent Lott and other bigots as some sort of martyrs? Looks like the same rules prevail despite the partisanism ...



Any way you slice the bologna, they're all still equally "done."

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Re: Helen Thomas Retires

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jun 7 16:47:12 2010, in response to Re: Helen Thomas Retires, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Jun 7 16:04:11 2010.

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Are you now saying Olog-hai stepped into dog shit? as usual? lol oh well....

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