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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Apr 20 18:15:25 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 20 18:01:10 2010. You may have very sensitive taste buds, but then I could counter by saying all you've ever been exposed to are items high in sodium content, but before you jump the gun why don't you wait to see what the regulations will be. You're quick to say this is governmental overstepping their boundaries but do you or I for that matter know exactly what they will target or what the levels of salt will have to be? Also you forget the fact that the FDA originally asked for food companies to voluntarily cut sodium but they didn't even flinch. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Tue Apr 20 18:17:24 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by R143 on Tue Apr 20 13:41:24 2010. Yeah I responded to the wrong post. |
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Re: Now the Military wants to take away our freedoms. LOL |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 20 18:20:33 2010, in response to Now the Military wants to take away our freedoms. LOL, posted by R Pansepcc on Tue Apr 20 16:06:59 2010. What's interesting is that the National School Lunch Program was established as a national security priority by President Truman because during WW2 so many young Americans had been rejected by the US military for being malnourished. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 20 18:23:27 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Apr 20 18:15:25 2010. The article actually hints at what happened with the "Voluntary" cutbacks - the companies tried and the products flopped due to lack of consumer demand (hint: they tasted like crap). |
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Re: Now the Military wants to take away our freedoms. LOL |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 20 18:23:29 2010, in response to Re: Now the Military wants to take away our freedoms. LOL, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 20 18:20:33 2010. And now they're getting bounced for flab ... :( |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Apr 20 18:25:10 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 20 18:23:27 2010. I think they put out the crap intentionally to prove that they cant cut back on the salt. Thats just me. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Tue Apr 20 18:28:18 2010, in response to Obama administration bans salt, posted by Dand124 on Tue Apr 20 07:54:04 2010. All this socialistic crap he is doing, can and will be scrapped when he is voted out. All this stuff will be repealed or not funded. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Apr 20 18:31:39 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by busdude2 on Tue Apr 20 18:28:18 2010. I'd love to see this repealed because such would open the flood gates to have other things lifted. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 20 18:36:08 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 20 18:14:43 2010. It is too bad that government does not embrace the new electronic cigarettes.They wouldn't work. They would taste like shit and be rejected. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 20 20:22:40 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Apr 20 12:42:39 2010. Yes, I am fine with the government "encouraging" or educating on the "evils" of salt or fatty foods, smoking, etc. But the bans I am dead against. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 20 20:25:42 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 20 17:39:18 2010. They already do that. Smoking rates have plummeted in the last few decades.I am not the one that said there is some "problem" with smoking or drinking that needs to be addressed, Jay Zee brought that up. VFW posts are going down the same route. Have you ever been to a VFW post? It's usually a bunch of old men sitting at the bar. What younger people are going to want to hang out there? By the way, it's still legal to smoke in VFW Hall bars....as it's considered a "private" club. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 20 20:57:59 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by R Pansepcc on Tue Apr 20 15:14:01 2010. I am not crazy about any of Trader Joe's fresh vegetables or fruits there. I like their frozen pre-prepared foods, as well as their frozen vegetables.I can't eat canned vegetables or fruits at all, I don't like them soft, and I feel they have no taste. The only canned vegetables I can eat is peas or corn. I only really eat fresh or frozen vegetables. I guess I can handle canned pineapple, but I much rather have that fresh too. I don't like veggie pizza, but I do like bean quesadilla. Are you a vegetarian? It seems like everything you mention excluded meat. "Not that there's anything wrong with that"... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 20 21:00:07 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by R Pansepcc on Tue Apr 20 14:29:25 2010. I prefer fresh or frozen, but there is no problem with salt free canned veggies.As I mentioned in the other post, I can't eat canned vegetables. And it's not because of the "salt", it's that I don't like the taste of vegetables when they are "soft" or "overcooked", as most canned vegetables are. I too really only eat fresh or frozen vegetables. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 20 21:43:01 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 11:01:41 2010. Why should anyone "recalibrate" anything, it's none of the govts business. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 20 21:44:27 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 20 21:43:01 2010. They should recalibrate because it's healthier, but I agree that it's not the governments business. Unless they're paying for your health care. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 20 21:52:04 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 20 21:44:27 2010. Unless they're paying for your health care.And people wonder why so many are against the Obama/PelosiCare law. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 09:28:53 2010, in response to Obama administration bans salt, posted by Dand124 on Tue Apr 20 07:54:04 2010. Reducing salt is not a ban. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 09:32:01 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 09:28:53 2010. Picky.Not to mention that even if this program is outrageously successful Obama will not be President by the time it comes to fruition. |
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Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD |
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Posted by bmtlines on Wed Apr 21 10:37:57 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 09:28:53 2010. But it reduces TASTE! |
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Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 10:47:49 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by bmtlines on Wed Apr 21 10:37:57 2010. Only until you get used to the overall lower salt level, after which you will sense no difference. Salt is tasted differently than fat. This is NOT like the flavor differences seen after a transfat ban. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 12:53:10 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 09:28:53 2010. It's bans on the amounts of salt. Same difference. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 12:53:28 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 09:32:01 2010. So what, it's being pushed forward in his administration. |
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Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 12:53:55 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 10:47:49 2010. Doesn't matter, it's none of their business. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 13:07:43 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 12:53:55 2010. Yes it is. We all eat the food that's available. Someone who wishes to or MUST control their salt intake has the right to food that does not harm them. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 13:40:04 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 13:07:43 2010. And there are low salt versions out there. You are free to buy them. So now, of course, the people that want low salt versions, feel that people that want the taste of higher salt shouldn't be allowed to have that option. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 21 13:46:58 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES NOT ban salt, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 09:28:53 2010. Forced reduction is tantamount to a ban. |
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Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 13:48:51 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 13:40:04 2010. "Low salt versions" are NOT everywhere. They certainly aren't low salt versions of everything. In fact, they're pretty damn hard to find. If you want higher salt, ADD some. Nobody is banning those cans of Morton. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 13:49:42 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 21 13:46:58 2010. Nope. They are not banning those cans of Morton. Use your shaker if you must. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 13:49:56 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 13:48:51 2010. So push for more "low fat versions". What this corrupt administration is doing is pushing to get RID of the tastier, saltier versions, to replace it with low salt versions. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 13:51:59 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 13:49:56 2010. What does the concept "corrupt" have to do with your point? |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 13:52:40 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 21 13:46:58 2010. Up is down, war is peace, etc. etc.:-) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 14:05:32 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 13:51:59 2010. Because this whole administration and congress is corrupt. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 21 14:12:52 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 13:52:40 2010. And "ban X amount of salt" still means "ban salt". |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 21 14:19:40 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 13:49:42 2010. Baloney. Most definitely more government banning stuff. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 14:22:40 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 13:49:42 2010. Some things taste different if they aren't COOKED with salt as opposed to adding it later. The lunatics in NYC want to ban salt from restaurant kitchens. As I said, the next step will be a ban of salt shakers on restaurant tables. |
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Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 14:24:46 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 14:05:32 2010. How?As I see it, they're doing better than the last.... they're *doing* something. |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 14:35:26 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 14:22:40 2010. 1.) Food that needs to be cooked with salt isn't going to be affected by this. Ham will still be available. Same with pickled foods. Same with baked goods. These foods aren't the target of this. It's the processed stuff, the gobs of salt needlessly added to some soups, processed and frozen foods which would be perfectly fine with half or less than is currently used.2.) Done gradually,people will NEVER know the difference. You included. Salt is tasted through the tongue, NOT the sinus like most foods. Because of this difference, it is sensed differently in the brain. After an adjustment period (a few weeks for most) your brain recognizes a different threshold level of saltiness, sweetness, sourness or bitterness IF you consistently adjust the level of intake over the few weeks of adjustment. I'm tired of telling you this. You are completely mistaken here. You will never know the levels are altered if done ove r along period of time like has been proposed. 3.) I think the NYC proposal is nuts. 4.) Nor do you hold the answers to what will happen in the future, stop speculating. You are really being idiotic and are getting really tiring about this. If you want to talk abou tit, you have to listen as well. |
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Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD |
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Posted by bmtlines on Wed Apr 21 16:06:15 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 10:47:49 2010. Actually I can't stand the taste of any Cream of Chicken soups other than the Cambpell's regular version. What is the shelf life of those cans - if this ban passes I will have to buy 100 or more cases to store in my cellar so that I can continue to enjoy a good tasting product.You have no idea how picky I am - I can detect even slight variations of taste between brands. For example, I can tell the difference between the different brands of frozen corn even if they claim to have no added ingredients or sauces. I also remember the taste of products I like quite vividly even after almost half a century. For example the ONLY toothpaste I EVER liked was IPANA. Even 40+ years after it was discontinued I have not been able to find a satisfactory substitute. I change brands every time I go shopping hoping to find one - no luck! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 21 16:26:21 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by bmtlines on Wed Apr 21 16:06:15 2010. I've encountered a few commercial products here and there over the years that were a little light on the right amount of salt to "season to taste." And ya know? I made a miracle little friend! Works every thyme! :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 16:27:58 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 21 16:26:21 2010. They'll ban the sale of loose salt eventually too.... :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 21 16:39:37 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 21 10:47:49 2010. Only until you get used to the overall lower salt level, after which you will sense no difference.But I don't want to get used to the difference. I would rather eat something that's not healthy in moderation (or rarely if it's really unhealthy) but enjoy it when I do, than eat normal portions of something that tastes like garbage. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 16:46:11 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 21 16:39:37 2010. Thank you. I totally agree with this. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 21 17:47:30 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 14:05:32 2010. Has "corrupt" replaced "ludicrous" as your favorite word? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 21 17:54:01 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 16:27:58 2010. Well then ... looks like I have an additional income with tourists! Wanna shave a salt lick? Just gotta gently nudge the cow away from it long enough. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 18:56:23 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 21 17:47:30 2010. However, they are ludicrous too. |
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Re: Obama administration bans salt for everyone but obama |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 21 19:00:55 2010, in response to Obama administration bans salt, posted by Dand124 on Tue Apr 20 07:54:04 2010. what's the point of the healthcare bill anyway if he still needs to ban things that he won't follow?Remember what al gore said about eating meat if it meant saving the world. He himself refuses to ever stop eating it. |
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Re: Obama administration bans salt for everyone but obama |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 19:01:49 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration bans salt for everyone but obama, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 21 19:00:55 2010. San Francisco is having "meatless Mondays" to encourage peopel to eat vegetarian, since eating meat is destroying the environment according to them... |
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Re: Obama administration studies possibly reducing dsalt |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 19:06:57 2010, in response to Obama administration bans salt, posted by Dand124 on Tue Apr 20 07:54:04 2010. Once again, we have the right making much ado about little.The NYTimes essentially debunked the Wash Post story cited above. A Congressionally-appointed panel "recommended" that the FDA look into ways of reducing salt -- that's all. "The report, commissioned by Congress to evaluate strategies for reducing sodium intake, recommended that the F.D.A. use its regulatory powers to declare that sodium above a certain level is unsafe, which could eventually bar companies from selling foods containing elevated levels of salt. But because people’s palates are used to today’s salty foods, the report said, the agency should order gradual reductions over time, to eventually reach healthier levels once tastes and preferences have adjusted." The FDA said the Wash Post story was hooey: "The agency said that a report on Tuesday in The Washington Post gave a “mistaken impression” that it was already moving to set limits on sodium. The F.D.A said the Department of Health and Human Services would create an interagency working group to consider what steps to take in trimming salt from food. F.D.A. Is Urged to Set Limits for Levels of Salt in FoodThe Grocery Manufacturers Association, which represents companies that make packaged food, said it would cooperate with the F.D.A. in its salt reduction efforts." F.D.A. Is Urged to Set Limits for Levels of Salt in Food |
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Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 19:07:47 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration DOES ban salt, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 21 14:12:52 2010. Sure it does . . . |
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Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 19:14:02 2010, in response to Re: Obama administration BANS TASTY FOOD, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 21 14:05:32 2010. If you say so. |
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