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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 10:57:14 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 11 10:53:42 2009.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 11:07:04 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 00:11:07 2009.

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LOL.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 11:08:41 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:20:48 2009.

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In the last five or six weeks, we've seen two shootings in Brentwood, a fatal stabbing in Brentwood, a shooting in Huntington Station, and another fatal stabbing in Westbury. There was also a bias attack in Valley Stream

Yes, all areas that were "not so great" for many decades. Nothing new here, except for some reason you became obsessed.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 11:12:55 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:31:42 2009.

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It isn't any different than it was 20 or even 30 years ago. ESPECIALLY in the areas he mentioned.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 11:15:42 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:18:54 2009.

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Is that allowed in your zoning laws?

Every town, municipality, village, and Hamlet have different zoning laws for stuff like that. While it may not be banned in one area, it could be banned in another.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by d_mind on Tue Aug 11 11:25:18 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 11 10:49:01 2009.

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I'd have to partially agree with that assessment. I live in the part closest to Queens, definitely not the nicest.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 11:57:46 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 11:08:41 2009.

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HAHAHA he's "become" upset.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 11:58:04 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 11:08:41 2009.

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HAHAHA he's "become" obsessed?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 11 11:59:51 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 22:12:52 2009.

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Not when you walk away from the train/ferry terminal. It turns into Riverhead fast. When the downtown area is deserted in the winter, it's hard to tell the difference.

Of course, Riverhead itself is not as bad as many say it is.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 12:07:05 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 11 11:59:51 2009.

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As I said, the area near downtown (which includes the area near the train/ferry terminal) is not that great....Greenport has some affluent areas...it's just not right there.
As for Riverhead, again, near downtown, not so great....it's not nearly as bad as people say it is. It looks "run down" because it's a rural area that's not quite suburban yet...but in transition..... Most rural areas look "scraggy" to an extent....and it only shows when they try to become "suburban".

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 14:07:17 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 10:56:18 2009.

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I have never said anything about Valley Steam.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 14:09:35 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 14:07:17 2009.

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Well, you will, as there is a "not so great part" of Valley Stream, and it will eventually show up in the news. Need I look for your posts about Green Acres Mall which is located in Valley Stream?

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Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 14:21:33 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 14:09:35 2009.

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You're the one who has pointed out that Valley Stream has issues, and blamed proximity to the City line. I posted about the Wal-Mart worker being trampled to death at Green Acres. Other than that, I know Green Acres is shot(literally), but don't recall talking much about it. No more or less than anyone here.

That said, I leave you with a story from Deep Park.

Inner City Style Mugging In Distant Suburb



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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 14:28:54 2009, in response to Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 14:21:33 2009.

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I think you will find stabbings and shootings, drug deals, drunk driving cases, arson, murders, and much else everyday reading Newsday. But then again, you would have every day in Newsday for as long as it's been a paper.

But that said....lookie here, at this quote of WHERE the muggers come from....Deer Park's neighbor, Wyandanch.....in fact, Wyandanch continues and takes over the number system from Deer Park's grid of streets. I don't think we need to go over that Wyandanch has been a crappy neighborhood for probably 40-50 years....

But two First Precinct officers, James Spoerel and James Ohagan, saw the two teens near the crime scene - and arrested them. Police identified the robbers as William Hart, 17, of 63 South 27th St., Wyandanch, and Trent Dargan, 17, of 48 South 20th St., Wyandanch.




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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Aug 11 14:54:24 2009, in response to Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 14:21:33 2009.

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Have you thought about a career running the police blotter for a LI paper? You could cover the crime and then report on it.



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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 15:25:21 2009, in response to Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 14:28:54 2009.

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Check out the homes these kids live in on zillow. I'll bet they have nice one-family homes with multiple cars in the driveway, backyard, etc........... Much better than the upbringig many in Ridgewood had in two, four, and six-family homes.

Yet these suburban kids are on the streets robbing. Why? Money?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Aug 11 15:52:50 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 14:09:35 2009.

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Valley Stream bad? You've got to be kidding me...

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Aug 11 15:55:19 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 10 19:10:47 2009.

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Please, Greenport looks nice and the people there are very friendly.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Aug 11 15:59:50 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 21:39:34 2009.

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There is no basis, you'll do fine if you walk around almost all of the areas he listed. East Hampton? Great Neck? Massapequa? Come on now.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 16:01:30 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Aug 11 15:55:19 2009.

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Hey. You mentioned Wyandanch yesterday, then today, two kids from there mugged a man in Deer Park for his cell phone.

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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Aug 11 16:08:47 2009, in response to Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 15:25:21 2009.

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Check out the homes these kids live in on zillow. I'll bet they have nice one-family homes with multiple cars in the driveway, backyard, etc........... Much better than the upbringig many in Ridgewood had in two, four, and six-family homes.


Here is the house where one of them lives.

Here is the other.

My LIRR/NYCT blog

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Aug 11 16:13:03 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 16:01:30 2009.

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That happens everywhere all the time man, and for a newspaper to report such a small crime shows you now "dangerous" Deer Park really is.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 11 16:15:06 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Aug 11 15:55:19 2009.

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I never said otherwise. White trash isn't necessarily meant as an insult. I'd be insulting myself if I used it like that.

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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 16:25:05 2009, in response to Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Aug 11 16:08:47 2009.

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Those would be mansions in Middle Village or Rego Park.

I see nothing wrong with their neighborhood or homes. Regular working class homes like many people live in. So why rob someone?

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Rockville Center(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 17:09:58 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009.

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Another Street Crime On Long Island

"Teens".

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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 18:17:49 2009, in response to Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 16:25:05 2009.

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LOL, I would live in Ridgewood or Bushwick (not that I like urban life anymore, but as a neighborhood, yes), but I would NEVER live in Wyandanch. I wouldn't have lived in Wyandanch 20 years ago either.....
It's been crap for many decades.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 18:24:41 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 11 16:15:06 2009.

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Greenport around the RR station and Downtown is a "salt of the earth" area. Certainly not bad, but not "beautiful" either.
But there are some really affluent areas of Greenport, when you leave that particular part of it.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 18:25:21 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 16:01:30 2009.

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But Wyandanch sucks big time, and has the crime statistics to prove it. It has been like that for many decades.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 18:27:09 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Aug 11 16:13:03 2009.

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Deer Park isn't dangerous at all. It's a nice working class area. It shares a street grid with Wyandanch, it's neighbor, which is not all that great. I have no problem with Deer Park at all, but it is a little too "suburban" for me. It's in suffolk, but it feels like it's in the valley of suburbia that is Nassau.

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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Aug 11 19:24:56 2009, in response to Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 16:25:05 2009.

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So why rob someone?

Quite frankly, it's because stuff isn't free.

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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 20:05:49 2009, in response to Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Aug 11 19:24:56 2009.

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Work for it. And if you can't afford it, don't feel entitled to something b/c your neighbor has it.

Stealing a cell phone? No hope for these kids. They'll be killing people by the time they're 21.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 20:07:14 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 18:25:21 2009.

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crime statistics to prove it.

Easy. Easy? Where are you with some stats?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 20:36:53 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 20:07:14 2009.

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Wyandanch:
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/wyandanch/crime/

Compare to Deer Park, next door:
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/deer-park/crime/


Wyandanch, NY Times, October 7, 1993
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http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/07/nyregion/wyandanch-seeks-us-help-in-fighting-crime.html


Wyandanch Seeks U.S. Help in Fighting Crime
By PETER MARKS,
Published: Thursday, October 7, 1993



Desperate for help in waging a war they fear they are losing, civic leaders turned today to a top Federal law-enforcement official for aid in ridding this community of drug dealers and prostitutes.

Zachary Carter, the new United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, walked the streets of Wyandanch, seeking to learn more about the community and determine if Federal officials can do anything to help. Local leaders said they could not remember a United States Attorney visiting their community before.

"I'm just trying to get as much information as I can," said Mr. Carter, who was sworn in last week. Standing next to a vacant lot that the police say dealers frequently use to sell drugs, he told reporters that he wanted to explore possible avenues of cooperation with state and local law-enforcement agencies to fight drugs.

In the war on drugs, few Long Island communities are as close to the front lines as this beleaguered hamlet in western Suffolk County. Each night, residents say, drug dealers and prostitutes prowl parking lots and sidewalks along Straight Path, Wyandanch's main street, and the sound of gunfire can be heard.

"I'm talking gunshots all night," said Daria Cooper, head of Wyandanch Entrepreneurial Development Inc., a nonprofit group that is seeking to buy and renovate a rundown block of stores on Straight Path. "There are so many pushers on the street at night that if you are not buying from them, they come and jump you."

Earlier this year, the Suffolk County police increased their patrols in the area, setting up a substation on Straight Path in a 48-foot trailer that was donated by the Town of Babylon, where Wyandanch is located. Babylon officials, meanwhile, have been stepping up efforts to shut the estimated 20 to 30 crack houses in the area, using zoning and sanitation codes to condemn houses where repeated drug arrests have been made.

Inspector Thomas Compitello, commanding officer of the Suffolk Police Department's First Precinct, which includes Wyandanch, said that in residential neighborhoods, using housing laws to close crack houses can be more effective than making arrests. But condemnation also has drawbacks, he said, explaining that drug dealers evicted from one house often move to another in the area.

Local civic leaders say that while they appreciate any increase in enforcement, the measures taken so far have not stopped the pushers and the prostitutes. For one thing, they say, the substation is only staffed for a couple of hours a day.

"Two hours a day is not enough for this substation to be open," said the Rev. Michael Talbert, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Wyandanch. What it has accomplished, he said, is to "make a difference in one area for two hours a day."

Mr. Carter, whose office has jurisdiction over Long Island and the boroughs of Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island, said he was not certain what kind of assistance his office could provide. But he added he wanted to examine some of the differences in state and Federal law, to determine if any Federal statutes carried stiffer criminal or civil penalties that might be applied to low-level traffickers.

Local leaders said they were pleased that Mr. Carter had accepted their invitation to tour the community, but would wait to see if anything concrete came of the visit. "It means something to me that he came out to see," Ms. Cooper said.


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Re: Rockville Center(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Charles G on Tue Aug 11 20:49:16 2009, in response to Rockville Center(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 17:09:58 2009.

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The Lakeview Public Library is in Lakeview and not in Rockville Centre. The southern part of Lakeview uses the Rockville Centre zip code and attends Malverne schools. The northern part of Lakeview uses the West Hempstead zip code and schools.

Just another day in that fun game "I'm on Long Island, but where the heck am I"

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Re: Rockville Center(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 20:58:40 2009, in response to Re: Rockville Center(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Charles G on Tue Aug 11 20:49:16 2009.

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Please! Easy is confused enough about LI without something like this!

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Aug 11 21:01:55 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 10 19:09:40 2009.

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Just out of curiousity: Is this all the result of spillover from Southeast Queens and such? I once took the Q77 up Frances Lewis through St Albans/Cambria Heights and thought the area was quite nice. I did hear Laurelton and Springfield Gardens was bad thou.



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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 22:34:48 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 20:36:53 2009.

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Thanks for the stats. Cool site although it doesn't seem to work as well for my neighborhood and wants me to sign up to see the overall rank.

Wyandanch doesn't seem to come off as too bad, although obviously it has problems based on the article. In the article a person complains of gunshots nightly, yet they don't have any murders. I think that she might be greatly exaggerating.

Rakim is from Wyandanch IINM.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 22:49:15 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 22:34:48 2009.

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Wyandanch doesn't seem to come off as too bad, although obviously it has problems based on the article.

That's because Wyandanch is being compared to all of NY State. Long Island as a whole isn't all that bad crime wise comparing to other regions. Even some of the worst areas of Long Island (like Hempstead, Wyandanch, etc), still aren't as bad as "bad neighborhoods" in other regions.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 22:55:42 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 22:34:48 2009.

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Wyandanch doesn't seem to come off as too bad,

LOL. You wouldn't survive a day there with your family.

I believe the woman.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 23:08:03 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 22:49:15 2009.

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I see. That makes sense.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 23:08:42 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 22:55:42 2009.

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I have been through some of the neighborhoods in LA....they make Wyandanch look like Disneyland.

One of the worst neighborhoods I have ever been through though was not in California....but near Miami. HOLY Crap.

(That's not to say there's nothing like that in California too, but there certainly is nothing like that on Long Island, even in the worst parts of Nassau or Suffolk.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 23:14:37 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 22:55:42 2009.

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Could be, but I doubt it. Unfortunately where I live now is about the same, if not worse, stats wise. The LASD just killed a gang member over the weekend a block or two away from where I live.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 23:41:42 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 23:08:42 2009.

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I have been through some of the neighborhoods in LA....they make Wyandanch look like Disneyland.

Really? Where? Most LA neighborhoods aside from Watts and parts of South Central and Compton look fine as far as I can tell. They definitely don't look as bad as they really are.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 23:47:12 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 23:41:42 2009.

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Comparing some parts of South Central, yes, make Wyandanch look like Disney.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 11 23:53:22 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 23:47:12 2009.

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Where did you go in South LA? Did you cruise down Crenshaw on Saturday night?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Aug 12 02:21:12 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 11 16:15:06 2009.

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I don't see how calling people trash isn't offensive.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Aug 12 05:11:19 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 14:07:17 2009.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Aug 12 05:11:58 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 14:09:35 2009.

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THANKS FOR THE QUALIFIER

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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Aug 12 05:13:00 2009, in response to Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 14:21:33 2009.

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sTOP, with obfusication. BS troll

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Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island)

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Aug 12 05:14:16 2009, in response to Re: Deer Park Mugging(Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 11 14:28:54 2009.

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more obfusicational BS from you. Wake up!

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