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Posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009 With the state of the economy being what it is with more people being thrown out of work and the oil companies once gain sneaking back to their price gouging ways of last year, it seems to me that some sort of price controls would be in order. How is someone supposed to be looking for work put enough gas or diesel in his tank when the price is skyrocketing out of control. The low income people who want to better themselves are getting hit the hardest. perhaps to pay for a tankful of gas, one will have to start dealing drugs on the side, or resort to the use of a ski mask and a gun. Don 't tell me it is the law of supply and demand at work, when there are speculators manipulating the oil prices on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Perhaps a good dose of Oklahoma City is what the Financial district needs. The price gouging has to be stopped one way or another, by the use of force, if necessary. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun May 31 10:03:03 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. And how many hours do you want to wait in line for gas after they impose price controls? |
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Posted by Dan on Sun May 31 10:44:14 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. Perhaps a good dose of Oklahoma City is what the Financial district needs.Please explain your statement. |
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Posted by Phantom909 on Sun May 31 10:52:03 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dan on Sun May 31 10:44:14 2009. This guy (dieseljim)is just a jerk. Larry should B7 him just for that comment |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun May 31 14:14:22 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by BMTLines on Sun May 31 10:03:03 2009. Reality aside, price controls by a democratic government can only mean one thing.$14 bucks a gallon. According to them gas is too cheap right now, and let's go back to the metrics of what would be too high during the last congressional session when gas peaked. 9 dollars was not high enough to them. But some looney toons would rather go on about manipulation conspiracies than actually listen to THEIR OWN WORDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT on what gas should be! 2 dollars is too cheap, they need to add enough taxes to get it to FOUR. I'm so sick of stupid ppl, because I see this on so many subjects. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 16:10:53 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by BMTLines on Sun May 31 10:03:03 2009. I don't know why he didn't just get the handle "MarxistJim" this time around, eh? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 16:11:59 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dan on Sun May 31 10:44:14 2009. He won't. He's a troll. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 16:12:28 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Phantom909 on Sun May 31 10:52:03 2009. Wasn't he banned before as "caseyjim"? He shouldn't have been allowed back in. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 16:13:13 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. Perhaps a good dose of Oklahoma City is what the Financial district needsPerhaps a visit from the FBI is what you need, eh? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 19:26:15 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. With the state of the economy being what it is with more people being thrown out of work and the oil companies once gain sneaking back to their price gouging ways of last year,I thought it was "all Bush's fault" when the oil companies used to do that. How come they are still doing it under Obama? They must be "Obama's Oil Buddies" now. it seems to me that some sort of price controls would be in order. I would agree...but it seems that both the Republicans AND the Democrats are scared shitless of them, so never do anything like that. Don 't tell me it is the law of supply and demand at work, when there are speculators manipulating the oil prices You are correct, it's not supply and demand, and that speculators are allowed to play with the prices like this is reprehensible. Perhaps a good dose of Oklahoma City is what the Financial district needs. The price gouging has to be stopped one way or another, by the use of force, if necessary. Your post was great until you had to ruin it with this out of control sentence at the end. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 20:56:25 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 19:26:15 2009. I would agree...but it seems that both the Republicans AND the Democrats are scared shitless of them, so never do anything like that.They are not scared shitless of anything. They both realize that price controls DO NOT WORK! They only lead to shortages! I would rather pay $10 gallon for gas than not have any at all, which is what would happen with price fixing. At least at $10 per gallon I can decide whether or not it's a worthwhile purchase. Your post was great until you had to ruin it with this out of control sentence at the end. No it wasn't. It was crazy from start to finish. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 21:08:50 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 20:56:25 2009. I don't disagree actually....But what happened to all the "Bush's oil buddies" posts like when gas began to rise the last time? How come the same connection isn't said now with Obama if it was all Bush's fault last time? |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 21:12:42 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. Bring the pump prices to European rates. That'll teach Americans a lesson. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 21:22:27 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 21:12:42 2009. How much do you know about that? Those "rates" are mostly taxes. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 21:24:18 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun May 31 14:14:22 2009. price controls by a democratic government. . . is an oxymoron, last I looked. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 21:35:37 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 21:22:27 2009. Then raise the tax. $2.50 per liter or more here too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 21:56:15 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 21:35:37 2009. Taxation over there is a scam. I say leave it alone. Copying the EU's bad habits leads to disaster. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 22:08:13 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 21:56:15 2009. I always joke if the taxes and spending here get so outragous, I'm moving to the UK (which at least has social heathcare). |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun May 31 22:21:38 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. You do make good points until you talk of violence.....no need to go there bro.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 22:23:51 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 22:08:13 2009. LOL, yeah, and social healthcare means the govenment tells you what type of medication and procedures you can and can't take..... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun May 31 22:30:41 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. If anything---fuel taxes on diesel should be relaxed, while and large cars and medium and large SUVs are transitioned to diesel powerplants. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 1 00:29:02 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 22:08:13 2009. I always joke if the taxes and spending here get so outragous, I'm moving to the UK (which at least has social heathcare).yeah but we spend our money on more useful things like corporate welfare, F-22s and Halliburton/KBR. How would you be able to cope without such things? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 1 00:38:21 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 21:24:18 2009. price controls by a democratic government. . . is an oxymoron, last I looked. No it's not. It may be inconsistent with a free market but it's entirely consistent with a democratic government if that's what the People want. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 01:31:11 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 1 00:38:21 2009. It may be inconsistent with a free market but it's entirely consistent with a democratic government if that's what the People wantWhat people want it? Such is always imposed from without anyhow, so no democracy would vote it in, especially via direct democracy. The people (capitalization of "People" means a certain magazine) are more concerned with prosecuting criminal behavior in business. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 01:32:48 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun May 31 22:30:41 2009. Why are you taking anything this troll says seriously? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 1 01:35:05 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 01:32:48 2009. Isn't Diesel someone who posted under a name like caseyjim? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 01:36:17 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 1 01:35:05 2009. Yup, same troll. |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Jun 1 02:01:48 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 22:23:51 2009. Because your local mom and pop mulitnational HMO conglomerate gives you so much freedom... |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 1 02:07:34 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 22:23:51 2009. LOL, yeah, and social healthcare means the govenment tells you what type of medication and procedures you can and can't take.....Have you ever heard of this new and obscure Government-run health insurance program called Medicare? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 1 02:16:45 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by WillD on Mon Jun 1 02:01:48 2009. I sure do love my employer's "Oxford/United Healthcare plan" ... ayup. $4,000 annual deductable before they pay, nearest "in network" doctor is down in Poughkeepsie (I live west of Albany) and if I'm ever in a car wreck, nearest hospital I'm *ALLOWED* to go to is Westchester. Ayup ... I'm *REAL* happy ... :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 02:49:02 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 1 00:29:02 2009. Wow, not like they don't engage in corporate welfare in the EU, right? or military spending? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 02:49:53 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 1 02:07:34 2009. They have Medicare for people of all ages now?!? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 02:51:02 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 21:08:50 2009. what happened to all the "Bush's oil buddies" posts like when gas began to rise the last time?Hah. I guess the alliteration on the first two words doesn't work as well, hmm . . . |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 1 02:58:02 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 31 22:23:51 2009. Sounds like an HMO.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 1 03:09:53 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 1 02:58:02 2009. HMO's are dead ... biggest thing now is the "healthcare savings" plan as practiced by Oxford/United Healthcare. YOU pay for everything, THEY save what they get paid. And heaven HELP you if you live outside the five boroughs. :(Bring ON "socialism!" These clowns are worse than AIG. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 03:57:04 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 1 02:58:02 2009. Exactly. At least I can vote for the officials who would be ultimately responsible for running a national healthcare system. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 1 03:59:28 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 03:57:04 2009. And my personal knowledge of a NUMBER of people retired and on medicare, aside from the "donut hole" it's pretty damned good. If you want a tit-lift, you might have to wait but REAL medical care as required IS taken care of. Compare and contrast to HMO/BooCross and all the other Ponzi schemes which deny payment, I'll take it.PHUCK the insurance scams ... :( |
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Posted by Robert King on Mon Jun 1 11:23:31 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 31 21:24:18 2009. An oxymoron? No. A return to the 1970s? Yes.Got 8 tracks? -Robert King |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 12:06:38 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Robert King on Mon Jun 1 11:23:31 2009. Got 8 tracks?Stillwell does. :-) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 12:18:35 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. What price gouging? If you were born before 1975, you are not permitted to argue for this, as you have no clue what the 1973 Oil Embargo and the controls the government put on gas did to the economy. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 13:00:18 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Phantom909 on Sun May 31 10:52:03 2009. Sounds more like the kind of people finding jobs in the Obama administration. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 13:01:43 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 31 20:56:25 2009. Shortages, inflation and black markets rendering the controls pointless. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 13:03:47 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by R42 4787 on Sun May 31 21:35:37 2009. Yeah, let's launch a torpedo into an economy already treading water. THINK before you post, dammit! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 13:04:52 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 1 02:58:02 2009. I'd rather deal with an HMO. They are for-profit and respond to customer anger. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 13:06:48 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 03:57:04 2009. You can always change HMO's. Unless you move to Canada, you can't change governmental healthcare systems. This is a rather suprising comment coming from you, I'd thought you'd be solidly against socialized medicine. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Jun 1 13:14:24 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 03:57:04 2009. Just like we vote for the officials who are ultimately responsible for running the MTA - sorry I won't trust them to run National Health any better! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 1 13:15:29 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 13:04:52 2009. Yup, and people don't understand that. Is HMO perfect? far from it, but it's a disaster in some countries like Canada that have federal. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 1 13:16:31 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by BMTLines on Mon Jun 1 13:14:24 2009. IAWTP! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 1 13:28:59 2009, in response to Re: State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by BMTLines on Mon Jun 1 13:14:24 2009. It's not saying much, but at least they aren't like the folk that run NJT, who are appointed. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 1 15:18:14 2009, in response to State of Economy Grounds for Price Controls on Gas and Diesel, posted by Dieseljim50 on Sun May 31 09:49:54 2009. SIMPLE solution on commodities gouging ... change the law so that if you purchase futures on commodities, you MUST take delivery. No reselling without a resale certificate and tax certificate."I have an 800 car TankTrain for Citicorp ... where do you want me to pump it? Lobby? Basement? Fine." :) |
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