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Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008

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He won Ohio.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 21:26:14 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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And is leading in NC and Florida. Could be a blowout.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:29:29 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 21:26:14 2008.

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Even without them, McCain would at this point have to win CALIFORNIA in order to win.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 21:31:40 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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WHOA NELLIE!

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 21:32:45 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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link?

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 21:33:16 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 21:32:45 2008.

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msnbc.com

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 21:36:11 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 21:33:16 2008.

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Thanks. I found it at ABCNEWS.com.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 21:41:59 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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Ohio does seem to have that amazing habit of going with the winner, doesn't it?


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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 21:45:42 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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there's an eerie silence now, if you know what I mean...

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by 9 local on Tue Nov 4 21:48:43 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 21:45:42 2008.

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I know what you mean XD

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 21:50:20 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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May he succeed in governing the country the same way that Spitzer succeeded in governing New York...

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 21:58:17 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 21:50:20 2008.

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That's more of a liberal reaction. I hope he succeeds. I know that he won't, however. His numbers simply don't add up.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 21:58:49 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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Indeed.

With Ohio, I move from watching election results to balancing my checkbook. Pretty much the shortest night for Presidential Election suspense since at least 1996, and I suspect since 1988.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 22:01:24 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 21:58:49 2008.

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I just feel extremely proud that I do not live in either PA. or Ohio. With Obama's promise to bankrupt the coal industry, I foresee double digit unemployment in those states within 3-5 years. And they will have no one to blame but themselves.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 4 22:06:14 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 21:58:49 2008.

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How much do you think the park-bench-address votes helped?

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 22:06:49 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 4 22:06:14 2008.

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I think the "dead" vote in Ohio helped.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 4 22:09:15 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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Pigs, get on AIM.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 4 22:09:45 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 21:45:42 2008.

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No, I don't know what you mean.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 4 22:10:03 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 21:26:14 2008.

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The Smart money is on 349 EV.

Now the real important race will decide if we get to see Senator Franken.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 4 22:11:52 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 22:01:24 2008.

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Coal industry is a dying one anyway. I mean its one of those jobs that we really don't want people to have. Sort of like complaining one's state's septic tank sucking industry is going to go bankrupt.

Anyway, be realistic, coal isn't going anywhere until replacements come on line. Who do you think will run the replacement power supply...robots?

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 22:13:31 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 21:50:20 2008.

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It's nice to see you care more about "your guy" than you do about America.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:16:47 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 22:06:49 2008.

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Perhaps the park benches and dead votes "helped", but at the end of the night they will not make the difference by any stretch of the imagination.

At this point, the only states where it looks like the voting will be so close that issues of fraud could swing the vote are Virginia, Indiana and North Carolina. And those will likely settle out with enough of a margin either way that there will be no reasonable way to conclude that fraud played any part.

The reality is that either side can make valid claims of fraud when the margin is miniscule. Voter fraud is like holding in football.

If McCain supporters are thinking that voter fraud cost them this election, then they are quite mistaken. Time to come to grips with reality and figure out how to move forward.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:20:18 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 4 22:10:03 2008.

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I don't think it will get that high. I'm still hanging on my 311 prediction from earlier today. Indiana, Florida or North Carolina going for Obama would make me change that.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 22:20:51 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 22:13:31 2008.

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Why? same can be said fro everyone who voted for Obama.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:21:32 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 21:26:14 2008.

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In the electoral vote perhaps but the popular vote shows the country is very divided - split almost 50/50

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 22:22:22 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 22:01:24 2008.

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With Obama's promise to bankrupt the coal industry, I foresee double digit unemployment in those states within 3-5 years. And they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Google "Marcellus Shale".

PA has more opportunity for revenue from natural gas than it ever would have had from coal. There is probably $10 trillion worth of recoverable natural gas under WV, PA, and NY (yes, I said NY). There's a fair amount under OH too.





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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 4 22:22:33 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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Too bad he'll have to resign since he can't pass a standard gov't background check.

And what's with his running mate still running for election in Delaware? I thought he was from PA which he always talks about. No wonder he's nuts and senile, that would make 42 years in the senate. Was there even computers back then?

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 4 22:23:08 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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btw, was Ohio a surprise? With 1/3rd of the voters being fraudulant, and all the NY'ers voting there?

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 22:25:18 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:21:32 2008.

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Link?

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:25:33 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:16:47 2008.

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Time to come to grips with reality and figure out how to move forward

We are thinking ahead - the domains impeachobama.* have all been registered

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Nov 4 22:25:36 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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He should thank W.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:26:19 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:21:32 2008.

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That will move more towards Obama as the night goes on. West Coast will be heavily Obama in both the popular and electoral votes. Probably looking at something on the order of 52-47 by the time things finally settle out.

Obama will be the first Democrat to earn more than 50% of the popular vote since Carter in 1976, and he'll be the first with significantly more than 50% (Carter had 50.1%) since Johnson in 1964.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:27:56 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 22:25:18 2008.

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As of Now:
Obama: Electoral: 206 Popular: 28,438,855 (50%) McCain: Electoral: 135 Popular: 27,353,672 (49%)

http://election.cbsnews.com/election2008/

I wouldn't call that a blowout

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:27:59 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:25:33 2008.

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Good idea. That will serve the country well.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Carter

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 4 22:28:13 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:26:19 2008.

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That much in common with Carter?

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 4 22:28:23 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:20:18 2008.

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If Obama gets VA, NC, NV and FL you get 349. He's ahead in all of those.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 4 22:29:04 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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Absolutely bittersweet. Madelyn Dunham would have been so proud.

Now, don't mess up these next four years President Obama.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 4 22:29:38 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 4 22:01:24 2008.

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Well...let's see.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 4 22:29:54 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 4 22:09:45 2008.

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GP38/R42 Chris stopped posting in the election related threads.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 22:31:52 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:27:56 2008.

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Thanks for the link.

It's not over yet, so you might be right. That's why I said "could".

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:31:52 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 4 22:28:23 2008.

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Could very well happen. He's moved to very narrow leads in VA and NC, but with 70+% reporting. Tough to make up even a point or two once you get beyond 80% or 90% reporting.

Florida is tougher to call because the panhandle (very Republican) votes for one hour longer so the Democratic regions tend to report earlier.

I don't see any results reported for Nevada yet.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 4 22:32:19 2008, in response to Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 21:25:13 2008.

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It is possible to out-Rove Rove! This is proof positive. Now don't mess it up President Obama...you were not elected because of white guilt or anything else. You were elected because the American public believes or believed you can do a better job.

Do that better job, or else you will see me taking a good long hard look at your opposition in 2012. Don't mess this up!

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 4 22:34:17 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 4 22:32:19 2008.

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Stop predicting the obvious.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 4 22:35:02 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 22:25:18 2008.

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I heard the same thing.
It appears that Obama will win....but McCain "could" win the popular vote (not that that means anything).

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 4 22:35:27 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 22:13:31 2008.

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He wasn't "my guy" either. Actually I abstained from voting on the position of president. I pulled levers only for the local and congressional races. I dislike both candidates and their parties!!

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 4 22:36:01 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:26:19 2008.

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Yeah, when California gets thrown in, this will really tip probably.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 4 22:36:04 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:27:59 2008.

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It'll serve the country just as well as having our heads up the EU's wazoo does, that's for sure.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 4 22:36:10 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 4 22:35:02 2008.

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It would mean that the Redskins streak of predicting the popular vote is over.

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 4 22:36:14 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Charles G on Tue Nov 4 22:31:52 2008.

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However, at 206, those are likely footnotes. California, Oregon, and Washington will seal the deal.

Any recounts in Virginia or a possible court battle there also end up simply determining if Obama won the popular vote. Winning Ohio gave Obama at least 272.

The Republicans now need to rediscover what exactly they are, and prepare for 2010 (midterms, although I see that as being McCain's final gasp, either retiring or losing to current Arizona governor Janet Napolitano).

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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 4 22:37:00 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 4 22:10:03 2008.

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It's not getting that high, but it will probably go Obama.

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