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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 27 04:00:33 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 02:57:20 2008. Tungsten... or Wolfram! |
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Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Aug 27 09:56:22 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 01:47:59 2008. Probably at work. You don't have to babysit a college student.We're all still trying to find out how old K-Car really is. 15,16,17, 18? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 10:08:56 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 02:57:20 2008. I guess they should use the alloys then...And ALL metals are "flammable"...just need the right stuff around them to cause a hot reaction, which we percieve as burning... The ehat packs are made of iron filings and water(with salt?), when you break the seal in between the two, you mix them, and the iron filings quickly oxidize...producing heat... Make the filings small enough, and it might burn... Thermite reactions are based on the oxidation of aluminum mixed with oxidized iron... |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 10:10:27 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 10:08:56 2008. Also, what do you mean by "brittle"? Is it like cast iron? Don't they use tungsten to cut through rocks using TBMs?? Or is that an alloy?Generally speakin though, brittle materials tend to be HARD materials...So brittleness might be good for TBMs. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 27 10:16:24 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 01:47:59 2008. Probably hiding. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 27 10:18:04 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 27 02:13:44 2008. Except that the tunnel is in the middle of the construction site, not the edge; and as you said, it doesn't need the station to serve the area. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 27 10:24:21 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 10:08:56 2008. Thermite reactions are based on the oxidation of aluminum mixed with oxidized iron...There was no Thermite. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 11:00:03 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 27 10:24:21 2008. That was about something else, however. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 27 12:17:39 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Aug 27 09:56:22 2008. No we're not. IIRC he already gave his age. |
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Posted by JohnL on Wed Aug 27 20:29:32 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 26 16:53:37 2008. ANYTHING will burn if it gets hot enough.Mostly true. Though I would challenge you to find some higher state of oxidation of water! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 27 20:33:18 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JohnL on Wed Aug 27 20:29:32 2008. Tritium. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:40:58 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 26 16:53:37 2008. ANYTHING will burn if it gets hot enoughHeat isn't required for burning. You might get a phase change though. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:42:53 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 26 21:47:47 2008. Truth |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:42:54 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 26 21:47:47 2008. Truth |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 27 23:15:25 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 27 20:33:18 2008. Burning magnesium will actually separate water molecules just to get the o-two...lol! |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 23:16:52 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 27 23:15:25 2008. We have to tap into that energy, then, if it is good enough. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 27 23:17:21 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:40:58 2008. Heat, fuel and oxygen are all required for burning. Take away any one of these and you cannot have a fire. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 23:24:25 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 27 23:17:21 2008. Heat is the by-product of burning. It can also be used to cause things to burn by letting other substances reach activation energy for burning...Sometimes, mixing two things together can create explosions, without adding heat. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 00:44:16 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 27 23:17:21 2008. Heh. Unca Olog probably thinks some Muslims invented that triangle and will have none of it. Yeah, I was VFD ... know the drill. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 00:57:02 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 27 23:15:25 2008. Sorry, mate! I ain't worried about "free radicals" since abbie Hoffman. Moo. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 00:58:02 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 23:16:52 2008. Samsonite luggage burned hot, but didn't turn water into wine. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 01:58:24 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 27 23:17:21 2008. Heat is a variable in that equation. You ever take chemistry? Ever hear of elements and compounds with low ignition points?Also, titanium can burn in an all-nitrogen atmosphere. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 01:59:14 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 00:44:16 2008. Plenty of chemistry info available online. No excuse for JayZee to not avail of it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 02:00:10 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 23:24:25 2008. You got that right, although the language was imprecise. I see you have indeed been paying attention in chemistry class. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 02:29:25 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 01:59:14 2008. Dewd ... I used to be a firefighter ... OK, out where *I* lived, the law only said you had to crack open a 12 ounce can of Coors and PISS on it and you did your job ... you fail to understand the difference between a "hose guy/medic/SACRIFICE" and the battalion chief whose job is to FIND the MSDS sheet on the "event." Maybe, like the REST of us here have come to realize, that until this place sheds those people who REEF everything of interest, perhaps such effort just ain't *WORTH* the time posting here. :(It's LIKE that. "JZ" *knows* his shit ... and like many of the rest of us who have our OWN areas of expertise, we only piss away our time on details UNTIL it gets dissed, dismissed, and at that point YOU and OBS own the board. Just ain't WORTH his effort is my bet. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 02:32:38 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 02:00:10 2008. And after just dissing you, THANKS for your effort in showing the boy that he CAN learn things here, and that MOST of us actually want to *improve* each other's perspectives from time to time. There's nothing wrong with ENCOURAGING people to do better. :) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Aug 28 02:41:32 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 23:24:25 2008. Very good.Here's another definition for you: Burning and explosion are the same reaction, but at different velocities. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 02:54:49 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 02:29:25 2008. You used to be everything, didn't you?No, JayZee's not correct. "Heat" is very relative to the material when it comes to ignition. And not all heat results in fire, but heat results from fire—which a firefighter ought to be able to tell us, since it's their job (and a noble job indeed) to deal with the effect instead of the cause. (You do know what I meant by "phase change", right?) that until this place sheds those people who REEF everything of interest You want Unca Larry to go away? Stop the thin-skin whining. Nobody's affected by it. |
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Re: Some WTC Thoughts.... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 03:05:08 2008, in response to Re: Some WTC Thoughts...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 26 21:39:06 2008. Hope he reads that. But then, it might be another "corrupted media" conspiracy and all . . . |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 03:12:06 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by RonInBayside on Thu Aug 28 02:41:32 2008. Oh NOSE! :)Reaction time of brunettes? 30 seconds. Reaction time of blondes? However long it takes to get to E-trade and show your balance. How does this matter? Heh. It don't! Moo. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 03:21:55 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 02:54:49 2008. Heh. Happens when you're an engineer and every job you ever held gets given to someone else not here. :(However, unlike yerself, I *believe* in evolution! I've EVOLVED, parlaying all I've learned, along with my ability to not CONDEMN other cultures, and instead have EMBRACED "new" and found that (aside from YOUR ilk) the world REALLY WANTS PEACE ... And SOME of us are working towards it. I have a VERY strong feeling that once the Bushwhacker is gone, and a better reality can occur. But I'm SURE you're gonna piss on THAT third rail of thought. Heh. No, I don't believe in Willy Wonka, but I sure don't buy YOUR shit either. Fact IS, we do NOT have to live like you ... but hey. What do YOU care? It's anti-semetic to question the Israeli media spin (as shoved CONSTANLY down our throats here like Limbaugh) but gee whiz, it's alright to attack ***ALL*** Muslims "as a GROUP" ... this shit (according to turning on the radio AGAIN last night after Hillary just to "check it out") and it ain't fair to say the SAME about Israeli factions? Wait a minute here ... HATE is HATE ... don't MATTER who's doing it, fact IS the HATE continues, and the SPIN. I'll put it THIS way ... media BETTER figure out SOON that the third generation Pakistani kid is NOT a THREAT ... unless they can kick your ass on XBOX ... then TURN their sorry Muslim ass into the FBI for "gaming you." :-\ I've truly grown TIRED of your shit (and OBS who is more obsessed than Dustin Hoffman) ... if it's OK to hate ***ALL*** Muslims, then isn't it only fair to LYNCH Lieberman? :( |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Aug 28 07:47:17 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 27 12:17:39 2008. Show the proff!!!As usual, you see my handle and promptly go into attack mode. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Aug 28 07:51:11 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Aug 28 07:47:17 2008. Um, if you're asking for proff, why are you also assuming it is an attack? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Aug 28 07:55:28 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Aug 28 07:47:17 2008. As I said, IINM, he already posted his age. You often forget what has already been posted. Don't you think his age has come up in discussion previously? You're not the first to wonder about it. And in one of those previous discussions, he posted his age. Besides, it's not hard to guess based on what he has said about his time in college. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 28 08:44:44 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 01:58:24 2008. I stand by my post. The fire triangle must be complete or there can be no fire. As for titanium, it can act as an oxidizer, and release 02, when burning.Elements and compounds with low flash points still need some heat to get them going...and to continue burning. If we put water on the fire, we take away heat, if we smother the fire, we take away oxygen, or if we take away the fuel (whether that be liquid, gas or solid)the fire will go out. Even "cold fire" isn't really cold, you know... |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Aug 28 09:59:01 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 27 01:58:57 2008. But insurance isn't necessarily a benefit. Billions of dollars of property were destroyed!And Silverstein collected less than the value of the buildings because he had underinsured their value. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Aug 28 10:27:00 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 03:21:55 2008. I agree. Especially with the extreme leftists branding everyone a bigot. Even though the jews were traditionally AGAINST leftists, and they don't like Obama, according to Murdoch.The pro-Israel media spin is there because it is beneficial to some interests, not to mention, Israel uses American weapons, and WE pay them. Either we are using Israel, or Israel is using us, who knows. Nasty trick if you think about it, our government gives them BILLIONS for defense, they turn around, and BUY equipment from the military industrial complex of ours...In the end, who gets the money? Who knows, someone in the Military Industrial Complex. The cronies. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Aug 28 10:28:13 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 28 08:44:44 2008. I don't get that... If titanium burns in an all nitrogen environment, how can it release O2? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 28 10:34:43 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Aug 28 10:28:13 2008. The 02 is trapped in the metal until released during combustion. The term "oxidizer" means the 02 is in the fuel. Oxygen is used to make steel.Ordinary paper, for example, is always burning because the oxygen in our air "oxidizes" it...over long periods of time, paper will turn yellow, then brown, just like it does when you light it with a match. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Aug 28 10:42:15 2008, in response to Re: Building Const. For Fire Service (Was: Some WTC Thoughts), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 28 10:34:43 2008. But titanium doesn't necessarily have oxygen in it, does it? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Aug 28 11:13:29 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 25 06:00:12 2008. LOL |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Aug 28 11:16:26 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 10:12:17 2008. Figures you'd like that. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Aug 28 11:19:42 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 10:12:17 2008. Heh, you and things "ass related". |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Aug 28 11:37:10 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Aug 28 11:19:42 2008. Well, I have that bad reputation because I used to use the saying "banana in the behind" a lot. I don't say that anymore, however. At least not as much as I used to. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Aug 29 09:52:13 2008, in response to Re: Some WTC Thoughts...., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 26 18:18:52 2008. That's because there are more believers in truth than there are in fantasy. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Sat Oct 30 21:14:24 2010, in response to What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 04:58:48 2008. since he won we never found out. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Thu Mar 31 23:52:24 2011, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by R33/R36 Mainline on Mon Aug 25 21:31:02 2008. right i'm sure that's how it happened |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 1 06:10:47 2011, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Dand124 on Thu Mar 31 23:52:24 2011. LOL! What a dumb post he made!! |
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