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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 29 10:07:55 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 28 20:34:32 2007.

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Human life begins at conception (or perhaps more accurately a few hours after that when the zygote begins to divide). Personhood begins much, much later (long after conception but before birth). It is personhood, the ability to feel, think, imagine -- the things that make us human -- that we are concerned with when we talk about human rights (and this is why we don't grant these rights to non-human animals). An embryo, and for that matter a fetus for much of its life is just a clump of cells and tissues, respectively -- and not a person in its own right (yet). It is enormous wrong to block research to help persons who are alive and suffering because of an unwillingness to work on clumps of cells.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 29 11:15:00 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 29 10:07:55 2011.

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You talk so authoritatively. What makes you an authority?

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Re: Finally, Someone Necroposts A Thread That Should've Been Reefed

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 29 11:15:34 2011, in response to Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Mar 27 18:41:17 2007.

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Just sayin'.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Mar 29 11:25:04 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 27 20:24:40 2007.

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Sup past Olog.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 29 11:26:50 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 29 11:15:00 2011.

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Yup, I posted in a necroposted thread. I admit, I don't check the dates.

Anyway, to answer your question:

Scientific evidence. The functions of personhood reside in the cerebral cortex. The cortex doesn't come online until the third trimester. Ergo.....

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 29 11:31:11 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 29 11:26:50 2011.

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Scientific evidence. The functions of personhood reside in the cerebral cortex. The cortex doesn't come online until the third trimester. Ergo...

. . . ergo, your "scientific evidence" is not. There's no evidence that the cerebral cortex creates "personhood", and certainly no scientific evidence. The only evidence is of life and death; if a conceived human is allowed to live, he or she lives, and if killed, he or she dies.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Mar 29 11:42:26 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 29 11:31:11 2011.

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Sup Present Olog.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Mar 29 12:25:39 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 29 11:31:11 2011.

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take your phony ass religion and shove it up your ass.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 29 12:39:10 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 28 22:34:45 2011.

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Readable. Not respontooable.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 29 12:39:54 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Mon Mar 28 23:49:38 2011.

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Notice that this sort of bile comes almost exclusively from the left.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 29 12:57:22 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 29 12:39:10 2011.

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I was thinking as reference only, yeah. The necropost thing is silly.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 29 12:58:20 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 29 12:39:54 2011.

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You've personally said worse, if not same level.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Mar 29 13:05:35 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 29 12:39:10 2011.

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Yeah, like maybe on the airliners.net board, where the moderators lock a thread, preventing any new replies, but it remains on the board (instead of being shuttled off to the reef (hangar?)) :)

Of course, airliners.net board is set up differently (not exactly UBB, but I think their tags are similar. Don't know for sure, as I only lurk there, too cheap to pay the $25.00 for a basic password).


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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 29 13:08:22 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 29 11:31:11 2011.

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LOL! Do you ever read a book (other than The Book)?

if a conceived human is allowed to live, he or she lives

This is actually NOT true in many cases. Many if not most conceptuses spontaneously abort, without even registering on anyone's radar.

and if killed, he or she dies

Thus demonstrating the magic of tautologies...

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 29 15:16:23 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 28 18:01:29 2007.

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I wonder if you have a brain tumor.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 29 15:23:22 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 29 11:26:50 2011.

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The topic is still valid. It's not like the fictional protagonist of the Bible has come into being in the last few years and told us how we should live our lives.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 29 15:23:24 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 29 11:26:50 2011.

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The topic is still valid. It's not like the fictional protagonist of the Bible has come into being in the last few years and told us how we should live our lives.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 29 17:02:23 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 29 12:58:20 2011.

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Proff?

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 29 19:36:44 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Mar 29 13:05:35 2011.

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Subway trains:reef::Airliners:graveyard

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Mar 29 20:05:30 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 29 01:18:59 2011.

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BIE stands for Brakes In Emergency, it was also the handle of a SubTalk and SubChat poster who got tired of the attitudes of certain posters here and on Subchat.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 29 23:58:16 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 29 17:02:23 2011.

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Wishing death on Helen Thomas, Cindy Sheehan.
Advocating assassination of our President.

You must either miss the lingo or choose to forget it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Mar 30 06:07:04 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 29 23:58:16 2011.

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pwned!

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 30 07:35:19 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 28 22:38:21 2011.

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Keep talking about cancer, that's awful.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:24:32 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Mar 30 06:07:04 2011.

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Your wife was PWN3D the day she joked, "I DO!"

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:26:11 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 29 23:58:16 2011.

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Do you have any specific posts in mind?

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:27:04 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:26:11 2011.

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Steve i do remember Chris saying something to that affect, i didnt save it though.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:28:33 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 29 23:58:16 2011.

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How about one scumbag wishing several here "die in a fire!"?

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:29:49 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:27:04 2011.

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He may have. I certainly don't have the time nor the desire to read everything that's posted here. All I asked was that he do what I did and link tot he specific posting.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 30 10:31:31 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:24:32 2011.

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Every man is pwned the day their wife says I do.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 30 10:31:37 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:26:11 2011.

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No need. Enough people here remember and if you don't believe me it's no skin off my nose.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:32:44 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 30 10:31:31 2011.

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Every man is pwned the day their wife says I do

LOL Consider me "unpwned"....

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:33:16 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 30 10:31:37 2011.

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Fred go in the corner!

:P

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 30 10:33:32 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:28:33 2011.

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Yes, all those kinds of posts are temper tantrums. They are wrong no matter who says them and it's not a liberal/conservative thing.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:37:23 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 30 10:33:32 2011.

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Yes, all those kinds of posts are temper tantrums. They are wrong no matter who says them and it's not a liberal/conservative thing.

IAWTP....

Verbal barbs are one thing wishing death on people, bringing people's familes into it, no need just stick to dissin each other...

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:42:43 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 30 10:31:31 2011.

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Well, I was speaking about his wife being pwn3d for marrying the fool.

By the way, on a serious note, you'd likely be wrong. Statistics show that married men live longer and are happier than single men.

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:44:41 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:42:43 2011.

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Statistics show that married men live longer and are happier than single men.

Im Happy and i tend to be for a long long time Steve...

;o)

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:49:28 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:44:41 2011.

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http://longevity.about.com/od/wholiveslongest/a/marriage_le.htm

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 30 10:49:30 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:33:16 2011.

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Haha! In a round room?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:52:21 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 30 10:49:30 2011.

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Nah a square one...

;o)

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:54:39 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:49:28 2011.

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"But, Being Single Is Getting Healthier"...

;o)

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Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 30 10:57:06 2011, in response to Re: Finally, Someone Gets Cancer Who Deserves It, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 30 10:54:39 2011.

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hahahahahahha

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