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Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 15 19:30:34 2024 From BBC "after what the FBI says "appears to be an attempted assassination" on the former president at his Florida golf course A Secret Service agent spotted an AK-47-style weapon poking out of bushes on the golf course about a hole ahead of where Trump was playing, and engaged the suspect A witness then saw a man flee in a black Nissan, which was later pulled over by a sheriff and the potential suspect was arrested A weapon, scope, backpacks and GoPro camera were found in shrubs near the edge of the golf course"
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Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Sep 15 20:10:38 2024, in response to Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 15 19:30:34 2024.* Looks like a yes.
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Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by Kevin from Midwood* on Sun Sep 15 21:12:56 2024, in response to Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 15 19:30:34 2024.*
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Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Sep 15 21:49:33 2024, in response to Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 15 19:30:34 2024.* Strike 2 !
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Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Sep 15 22:13:48 2024, in response to Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Sep 15 21:12:56 2024.* Did you know that as a young lawyer, one of chuck schumers first jobs was to get black residents out of midwood?
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Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Sep 16 12:43:26 2024, in response to Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 15 19:30:34 2024.* Take note, the assassin has a full head of hair. No balding.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Mon Sep 16 12:58:56 2024, in response to Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 15 19:30:34 2024.* There has to be.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 13:54:14 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 12:58:56 2024.* Thank you for your insight, Ms. Loomer.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Mon Sep 16 14:21:50 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 16 13:54:14 2024.* Was that meant as an insult?
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Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Sep 16 14:35:58 2024, in response to Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 16 12:43:26 2024.* Well, THAT'S a plus!
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 15:17:36 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 14:21:50 2024.* That's entirely up to you. If you think she's a great person, then not.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Sep 16 15:22:17 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 12:58:56 2024.* Well, duh. Obama had eight years to populate the executive agencies that aren't mentioned in the Constitution with loyalists to the left.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Mon Sep 16 15:45:46 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 16 15:17:36 2024.* LOLAIM. How else do you explain the past 2 assassination attempts? Coincindence?
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Mon Sep 16 15:46:49 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 16 15:22:17 2024.* Excellent point. Except for your DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Sep 16 15:55:40 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 15:46:49 2024.* No; my "duh" (lowercase) is perfect. The context of the situation calls for it.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 16:00:46 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 15:45:46 2024.* No. There are a lot of crazy people out there. And the second guy might have been mentally urged on by the first guy almost being successful. By the way, Harris doesn't take the kind of risks that Trump takes. Feel free to call that cowardice if you wish. But it does make it a lot harder to get at her.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Sep 16 16:07:34 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 15:46:49 2024.* This article sheds some light on why I said “duh” (lowercase). Have a look at the photos, because I’m not posting them here. Would-be Trump assassin exploited security hole that Secret Service has known about for years — and the pictures prove it The gunman who allegedly staked out former President Donald Trump’s West Palm Beach golf course with an SKS rifle was able to exploit a security hole that the Secret Service has known about for years. News photographers — including those hired by The Post — have had no problem repeatedly securing spots around the perimeter of the course to snap pictures of Trump playing golf or driving around in a golf cart. They have even taken images — which require a clear line of sight to the 45^th president — unnoticed through the bushes with telephoto lenses. Some have gotten as close as 75 yards — without so much as a sideways glance from the Secret Service. “They’re always amazed how close they can get to Trump and his entourage — it’s easy for them,” one photo agency source told The Post. Photographers typically announce themselves to the Secret Service so that they are not mistaken for threats. Authorities say Ryan Wesley Routh got within 300 to 500 yards of Trump after spending 12 hours in a makeshift sniper nest just outside the fence along Summit Boulevard, a busy thoroughfare of Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach. The golf club — which Trump frequents when he is a staying at Mar-a-Lago — is a sprawling, wide-open expanse covering hundreds of acres, lined with dense tropical foliage and tree cover. The source said photogs can snag pics of Trump “shockingly easily” at his West Palm Beach course, one noting “dozens” of covert gaps in the thick brush around the border. In areas where there’s no obvious break in the tree line, dedicated snoops can still sneak a view of the course. Some of the lighter flora can simply be pulled apart by hand, easily creating new gaps where just about anyone can watch golfers in action without being seen, the source said. Even on rare instances when Secret Service agents do see a photographer near the course, they’re rarely questioned, the source said. The security detail is also exceedingly easy to see approaching on their golf carts, meaning photographers can keep an eye out for them and then hang back and lie low until Trump arrives. “If they do approach the photographers, sometimes they quickly check their credentials but that’s about it,” the source claims. The outside of the course is dotted with “No Trespassing” signs, but photographers are easily able to take their pictures from behind those signs, and they’re certainly no deterrent for someone up to no good. Trump was playing the fifth hole when Secret Service snipers noticed Routh’s gun barrel poking through a chain link fence between the sixth and seventh holes and opened fire on the suspect. However, the location Routh chose to lie in wait in West Palm Beach wasn’t particularly favorable for photographers, owing to tricky angles and long distances. “Routh could easily have picked a better spot, but maybe he was worried about being seen by a photographer,” the source added. The source said it’s even easier to take pictures at the former president’s other Florida golf complex, Trump National Doral, about 77 miles from West Palm Beach. Doral has four courses, including the famed “Blue Monster,” which is “wide open” for photographers to take pictures. Routh, 58, fled after being fired upon by Secret Service agents, but was arrested on I-95 in Palm City, about 40 miles north of Trump’s golf course. He appeared, smiling and wearing shackles on his hands and feet, in a Florida federal court Monday morning as he was hit with felony gun charges.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Sep 16 16:19:48 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 12:58:56 2024.* Everyone knows Trump plays a lot of golf. One can find out where just like stalkers and paparazzi do with other celebrities.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Sep 16 16:26:16 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 16 16:19:48 2024.* This is on Trump's private golf course and his location is supposed to be kept secret, particularly by the Secret Service.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 16:30:51 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 16 16:07:34 2024.* because I’m not posting them here LOL. Behold, a Google Street View showing easy access to the golf course. Just walk past the firehouse. We know the Secret Service has warned Trump that this golf course is hard to secure. It's not the government's job to fortify the place. Trump had 3 choices: take the risk with the place as it is, persuade the golf course to spend a huge amount of money to make it safer, or not play there. He chose the first option.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 16:31:45 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 16 16:19:48 2024.* Exactly. I just spent 5 minutes with Google Street View and found a place where you can walk right in to the woods that are part of the course.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 16:37:21 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 16 16:26:16 2024.* The shooter was camping out in the golf course for 12 hours. Maybe Trump was going to play a round of golf that day, maybe he wasn't. Trump's schedule of rallies is public. If he had no rallies for today it was quite likely he'd be at Mar-a-Lago.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by bingbong* on Mon Sep 16 17:27:30 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 16 16:30:51 2024.* The Secret Service was doing their job properly as well….the advance people scanned the area near the next hole's tee as his game was advancing and saw the guy….then took shots. As they are supposed to. There is no issue with his security, it obviously worked. He has gotten additional security at campaign events recently. As a former president, his security is sufficient otherwise.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Train Dude* on Mon Sep 16 17:52:23 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 16 17:27:30 2024.* Thank God. The expert is back
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Mon Sep 16 18:39:05 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 16 17:27:30 2024.* No it was not.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by bingbong* on Mon Sep 16 18:52:40 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 16 18:39:05 2024.* When a protected is playing golf at an unsecured (most) course, security travels as a bubble around the protectee. They do not (nor should/could they) close down the entire place. These are businesses, many have memberships and they have a right to continue conducting their business. This is SOP for the Secret Service. There's a number of current interviews available of Secret Service agents, current and past, where it’s all explained. Doesn't require any expertise to watch television.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Mon Sep 16 19:02:05 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 16 18:52:40 2024.* You're disappointed that the would be assassin didn't do the job.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Sep 16 19:18:34 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 16 16:31:45 2024.* It bothers me that the suspect has a full head of hair. A rockstar head of hair.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 20:15:13 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 16 19:02:05 2024.* Libelous post.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Mon Sep 16 20:44:50 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 16 17:27:30 2024.* "As a former president, his security is sufficient otherwise." You are dead wrong. If the secret service had done their job right, these two assassination attempts would have never happened. And If Biden was an effective chief executive, he would get some air time and express to the American people that a call for a complete secret service investigation Is in order. What needs to happen is to find out what was changed/improved as far as security based on what happened in Butler Pa. instead of issuing trite worn out cliches about how there's no place for this type of violence in America, or words to that effect and let it go at that. Thats not good enough, Joe. One time I'd cut them little slack as to find out what went wrong, learn something and make sure it doesn't happen again. But it did happen again, thankfully without Trump getting another ear pierced this time... or worse. This second incident calls for some answers on why they dropped the ball in letting this knucklehead get that close and heads should roll this time. After all, Trump insist the only target out there.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Sep 16 20:54:19 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 16 18:52:40 2024.* SOP for the Secret Service is to provide adequate protection for "the Package", be it surrounding him, or shutting places down if need be.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Sep 16 20:54:54 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 16 20:44:50 2024.* They won't stop.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by AlM* on Mon Sep 16 20:57:52 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 16 20:44:50 2024.* these two assassination attempts would have never happened. The second attempt did not happen. I'm not quibbling here. The golf course has a perimeter of multiple miles. There is no reasonable way that entire golf course can be totally locked down. Unlike in Butler PA, the Secret Service had a reasonable plan here.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by bingbong* on Mon Sep 16 21:05:48 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 16 20:44:50 2024.* A communication problem has been cited in the Butler,PA incident. It is being further investigated and additional steps taken to protect candidates taken. There's not much that can be said until the results of that investigation is made public. What exactly is your problem about yesterday? This guy, who is NOT currently President, in a private space event, was afforded security that found and resolved a potential threat. Why do you say that isn't enough? (Go to your chosen news source, or search out secret service protocol for former presidents in private events and youl'l run across someone’s interview about how golfing is handled….for an actual serving President it's roughly the same, augmented)
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Mon Sep 16 22:08:58 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 16 21:05:48 2024.* With the over the top hatred of Trump, presidential level secret service protection is not unreasonable to ask for. There are enough head cases out there that saw how easy the first attempt at taking Trump out was and noticing that Trump escaped death by millimeters that they can say "wow I can do that", based on how close the first gunman got. My guess is that there will be more attempts.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Sep 16 22:18:27 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 16 20:54:19 2024.* Therefore, they're violating SOP.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Mon Sep 16 22:37:12 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 16 20:15:13 2024.* Jealous?
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Sep 16 22:41:06 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 16 22:08:58 2024.* Like I said, they won't stop.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Sep 16 22:41:59 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 16 22:18:27 2024.* OR, the man in charge isn't dillegent enough
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Sep 16 22:51:24 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 16 22:41:59 2024.* How often does that happen in SS?
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by bingbong* on Tue Sep 17 00:29:17 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 16 22:08:58 2024.* No, it isn't. He is not president. And he was two holes behind where they encountered Routh. As to the future, if trump chills the rhetoric and behaves, it just might not happen again (after we don’t see this WRT VP Harris).
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Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life
Posted by Kevin from Midwood* on Tue Sep 17 01:32:56 2024, in response to Re: Was There Another Attempt on Donald Trump's Life, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 15 22:13:48 2024.*
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Edwards!* on Tue Sep 17 02:10:53 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 16 17:52:23 2024.* Oh? You should talk. You are the resident Bent Penis expert. You love dick so much, that you wrote a poem describing your fascination over Dick. Your mother trained you well. She Too was known to "go hard" for the meat pipe, often setting records for her deep throat skills. She Indeed taught You how to suck a wet mop dry. Be Proud, you cunting man whore. You have reached levels of greatness only very few could!
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Edwards!* on Tue Sep 17 02:47:05 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 16 22:08:58 2024.* Okay. Let's be honest here. Trump is probably the most horrible human in existence, in Any capacity anywhere anytime. Factually. He even outshines Nero, and He was a close second to Hitler. He is the most vile disgusting subspecies ever to walk the face of the planet,on par with the very Devil himself. So it's not about hating him. It's about knowing your enemy, and calling them exactly what they are. Trump is the Enemy of all of humanity. That Is factualin word and deed.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Sep 17 08:10:00 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 16 22:51:24 2024.* Realistically, more often than you think. Same with NYPD, State Department, etc... Everyone just prays nothing goes wrong.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Tue Sep 17 11:19:33 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 17 00:29:17 2024.* ...if trump chills the rhetoric and behaves, it just might not happen again" Nonsense. A head case will not change his mind about shooting Trump. You think that if Trump calms down or otherwise changes his personality or style, a potential assassin will change his mind and say words to the effect "Ok now I wont kill him "? C'mon! BTW Its coming out now that the gunman was stalking the golf course for at least 12 hours prior to his capture. So Where the hell was the secret service?? Why , considering what happened in Butler, wasn't their extra sweeps?? Maybe its better that he don't get an extra secret service detail if this is their form of "protection"
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Avid Reader* on Tue Sep 17 11:45:56 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 17 02:47:05 2024.* Okay. Let's be honest here. So, let's be honest here. When Trump and becomes the next president, Secret Service protection for what will become the former Biden Administration will be drastically CUT! As Tom McAn said "the shoe will be on the other foot! It's killing me.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by AlM* on Tue Sep 17 13:39:07 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Sep 17 11:19:33 2024.* This is no comparison to Butler. In Butler, they didn't check out stuff a few hundred feet away. In contrast, the golf course is huge. Not clear how to secure the entire 3 mile or so perimeter and keep it secured without a huge force.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Sep 17 14:10:27 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service—proff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 16 20:44:50 2024.* The secret service can’t prosecute thought crime. Here, they successfully prevented an assassination attempt. Unlike the Pennsylvania attempt, the SS swept the area that Trump was going to be in before he got there and removed the perp successfully, such that Trump was never in danger. What more could they have done? PA was a major failure; this was a success.
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Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Sep 17 14:11:03 2024, in response to Re: There is a mole in the Secret Service, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 16 12:58:56 2024.* Looks like Congressman Eli Crane agrees with you.
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